Donetsk separatists call to replace Ukraine with Russian imperial province Malorossiya

DNR's Zakharchenko

"DNR" head Alexander Zakharchenko and other "DNR officials" declare the state of Malorossiya. Donetsk, 18 July 2017. Credit: dninews 

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Today, Aleksandr Zakharchenko, leader of the Kremlin-run “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DNR”), proclaimed that the new state Malorossiya is a “successor to Ukraine,” calling Ukraine a failed state. “DNR”‘s twin statelet “LNR” had no notion about Zakharov’s declaration. Ukraine’s President Petro Poroshenko says this means that Novorossiya Russia’s project has been buried. Germany and France condemned this new state proposal. The Ukrainian and Russian envoys to the Minsk negotiations both said such declaration undermines the Minsk peace process.

On 18 July, Aleksander Zakharchenko, the Kremlin-installed leader of so-called Donetsk People’s Republic, a breakaway region in Ukraine’s Donbas, delivered a statement to the press in occupied Donetsk, saying:

We propose to establish the state of Malorossiya. Malorossiya is an independent young state. A transition period of up to 3 years.

The Russian state outlet Sputnik highlights“Malorossiya has been declared as a sovereign federation of states with wide-ranging autonomy,” and quotes so-called “DNR tax minister” Aleksandr Timofeev:

We, the representatives of former Ukraine, declare the establishment of a new state, Malorossiya, which is a successor state to Ukraine. We agree that the new state’s name will be Malorossiya because the very name of Ukraine has discredited itself. The city of Donetsk becomes Malorossiya’s capital.

Timofeev disclosed the plans of “Malorossiya”:

The policy aimed at joining the Union State of Russia and Belarus while preserving independence and sovereignty. The keeping of a visa-free regime in agreement with the European Union.

The bad news for him is that it was Russia which recognized “LNR” and “DNR” passports, not the European Union.

The “Official declaration of the Malorossian Federation” was published on one of “DNR’s” promotional websites.  It reads, “To stop the civil war and avoid new victims, we, representatives of the majority of the regions of the former “Ukraine” assembled in Donetsk on July 18, 2017, discussed the current situation,” however, the photographs accompanying the publication show just four “DNR” members “representing the majority of the regions of the former Ukraine” and journalists listening to the statement:

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Moreover, Vladimir Degtyarenko, the Head of the “LNR Parliament,” said that the Luhansk occupation authorities have no idea what has happened in Donetsk, “The Luhansk People’s Republic didn’t send its official delegates to the meeting of the representatives of Ukraine’s regions. Moreover, we were not even informed about the intention to hold this event, this issue wasn’t aligned with us.”

The Declaration is stuffed with anti-Ukrainian narratives of Russian propaganda including allegations of neo-Nazism, genocide, coup, civil war etc. A so-called Malorossiya is proclaimed inside Ukrainian borders excluding Crimea, according to the attached maps:

We, representatives of the regions of the former “Ukraine,” propose to re-establish the state and to proclaim the state of MALOROSSIYA under historical background out of the former “Ukraine.” In this case, it is of fundamental importance to rename the country, since “Ukraine” as a state is guilty of war crimes, mass terror, and genocide of its own people.

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The so-called “DNR Parliament Head” Denis Pushilin has called the creation of Malorossiya “an interesting initiative” and said, “However, as of now it is just an idea, pretty objectionable in LNR, DNR, Russia.”

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Russian propagandist groups on vk.com, “the Russian Facebook,” have already started replacing Novorossiya in their names with Malorossiya:

Russia’s state media outlets have started to promote the “state of Malorossiya”:

Ukraine, Germany, France condemn Malorossiya

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko has commented on proclaiming another state on Ukrainian territory. “Zakharchenko is not a political figure, but a puppet transmitting the Kremlin messages,” Poroshenko noted, and added, “Project Novorossiya was buried. Ukraine will resume sovereignty over the Donbas and Crimea.”

Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin thinks that Russia is trying to apply the Abkhazian scenario in Ukraine, he wrote on his Twitter page:

Just as the Ukrainian delegation is in Georgia, the Kremlin is trying to do in Donbas what it has done in Abkhazia, we will not let them.

Klimkin refers to 2008 events, when Russia invaded Georgia’s regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, then declared their independence and recognized them as independent states.

A spokesperson for the German federal government told DW, “Mr. Zakharchenko has no legitimacy to speak on behalf of Ukraine. We expect Russia to also immediately condemn this step, and that it neither respects nor even acknowledges it.”

French foreign ministry’s spokeswoman called on Russia “to condemn this fact which violates the Minsk agreements and betrays the spirit of negotiations in the Normandy format.”

Novorossiya vs. Malorossiya

The “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DNR”) was proclaimed in 2014 by the Russian forces in Donetsk to separate the region from Ukraine. Another attempt of creating a Russian puppet statelet in Ukraine succeeded in Luhansk, where the so-called “Luhansk People’s Republic” was proclaimed in the same year.

Both “republics” were parts of a greater project, Novorossiya (“New Russia”), intended to separate all southern and eastern provinces from Ukraine and to create a land corridor from Russia to the annexed Crimean peninsula.

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Pro-Russian protests in the aftermath of Euromaidan (based on wikipedia map).

But Kharkiv, Odesa, Mykolaiv and all the other “people’s republics” had failed.

Read more: Meet the people behind Novorossiya’s grassroots defeat

Historian Ihor Vynokurov notes: “The term people’s republic may indeed be derived from the UNR name as familiar for Ukrainians. But the other possible explanation is that the people who supervised the creation of DNR and LNR in Moscow followed the examples that are more familiar to them. They all grew as Soviet citizens during the Cold War when the notion of “countries of people’s democracy” was commonplace to denote Moscow’s global domination. So the Polish People’s Republic, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and, not least, Chinese People’s Republic were omnipresent in the discourse of their generation. This is what they lost because of the so-called “greatest geopolitical catastrophe” of 1991, this is a subject of their nostalgia.

Regarding the territory of Malorossiya and Novorossiya, most likely, Russians (and many Ukrainians alike) mostly imagine Novorossiya as 1/2 of Ukraine and Malorossiya as roughly full Ukraine. However, when speaking of “historic” toponyms, we should differentiate between these vaguely imagined terrains, on the one hand, and regions with defined limits, on the other. All Russian administrative entities which included the name Novorossiya were definitely less than half-Ukraine. As for Malorossiya, the two entities the Russian Empire created using this name (the Governorate and then General Governorate) covered even smaller territory compared to the administrative Novorossia. In this latter sense, Malorossiya contained the territory of (also roughly, of course) just two contemporary regions: Chernihiv (where was its capital), and Poltava Oblasts. It doesn’t repeal the fact that In the mental geography of both 19th-century Russia and a Putin one, Malorossiya does amount to Ukraine, and the new name of the “state” shows how far their appetites go.

The term “people’s republic” in the names of pseudo states was allegedly used intentionally to sound familiar for Ukrainians. It referred to the Ukrainian People’s Republic (UNR), an independent Ukrainian state declared in 1918.

The notion Novorossiya was the historical name of several Ukrainian governorates in the Russian Empire.

Malorossiya (“Little Russia”), mentioned by Zakharchenko as a name for a new state, was a term in the Russian Empire to designate the territory of almost entire modern Ukraine. Correspondingly, the Empire officially called Ukrainians Malorossy (“little Russians”) contrary to Velikorossy (“great Russians”).

“DNR tax minister” Timofeev cleared it up: they want to rename the Donbas Ukrainians to “little Russians” and call the Ukrainian language “the little Russians’ language”:

Malorossiya is a multinational state with Russian and Malorossian being its official languages, and regional languages retaining their rights and statuses.

This proclamation is akin to taking a time machine back to the time of the Russian Empire when most of the territory of modern Ukraine was essentially colonized and its language and national identity all but destroyed in the process of “russification” which continued through the USSR to the present day.

Russian imperial policies have been directed at the linguicide of the Ukrainian language, with multiple covert and direct influences working to persuade Ukrainians to renounce their language and identity of “inferior Malorossiyans” to become full-fledged citizens, or “Velykorossiyans.”

Renouncing the identity of “Malorossiyans” and adopting those of Ukrainians was the cornerstone of Ukraine’s national struggle for statehood.

What the proclamation of Malorossiya may mean

The proclaiming of Malorossiya can be as a personal initiative of Zakharchenko (unlikely) as a new Russian project for Ukraine just voiced by the “DNR leader.”

Russian nationalist writer Zakhar Prilepin claims he is behind the declaration, in his interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda Prilepin said,

 We really wanted to create a surprise not only for Moscow, but also for Washington, and for Kiev, first of all. And for Odessa. And for Kharkiv. 

However, Zakharchenko would hardly do anything without Kremlin’s approval.

So what may the proclamation of Malorossiya mean?

Project Novorossiya failed

Changing the narrative of “DNR” from “Novorossian” to “Malorossian” means, first of all, that Russia admits the failure of its Novorossiya project in Ukraine. President Poroshenko thinks that the project has been “buried.”

Next step of Abkhazian scenario

As we reported earlier, the shift in the Russia’s policy towards Ukraine’s occupied parts of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts showed possible Russia’s preparations to recognize so-called LNR and DNR as independent states:

  • In February, Russian President Putin recognized LNR and DNR “passports” in Russia.
  • In March, LNR adopted the Russian ruble as its basic monetary unit.
  • All enterprises and organizations that had operated under Ukrainian jurisdiction in the occupied territory were seized by occupation authorities of Donbas “republics”.

Those steps are similar to the Abkhazian scenario of the Russian occupation. Russia recognized two Georgia’s provinces, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as independent states back in 2008. Another Russia-controlled enclave, Moldova’s Transnistria remains unrecognized as a state even by Russia over the 25 years of its existence.

Read more: Policy shift shows Russia preparing to recognize its puppet republics in Donbas

Declaring the “independent state” by the DNR still fits into the Abkhazian scenario, which implies further recognition of the puppet state’s independence by Russia.

Blocking the Minsk process

The declaration by Zakharchenko contradicts the Minsk-2 agreement called to broker a peace to the conflict in eastern Ukraine, where the territories uncontrolled by the Ukrainian government are viewed as parts of Ukraine.

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Minsk peace process in a nutshell.

Read more: Who is who in the Minsk process | Infographics

Yevhen Marchuk, a Ukrainian representative in the security subgroup of the Trilateral Contact Group (TCG), said:“This statement can generally block the negotiation process.” Marchuk also mentioned an important detail:“This statement was made before tomorrow’s meeting in Minsk, and it can happen so that there will be nothing to talk about.”

Russian envoy to TCG Boris Gryzlov said:

This initiative doesn’t fit in the Minsk process. I perceive this only as an invitation to a discussion, this statement has no constitutive consequences.

As per Sputnik, Gryzlov attributed Zakharchenko’s proposal to “information warfare” which “is not a subject of realpolitik,” implying that the declaration of Malorossiya is not a Kremlin’s project, but Zakharchenko’s own initiative.

Russia wants all of Ukraine instead of half

While historic Malorossiya was less than historic Novorossiya, Kremlin’s project Novorossiya covered half of Ukraine and the new project Malorossiya expands on the entire area of Ukraine excepting Crimea.

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov believes, “The statements of the Kremlin clown puppets who call themselves the leaders of the occupied Donbas, about the creation of Malorossiya is more proof of Putin’s aggressive plans and his maniacal reluctance to resolve issues in the east of Ukraine by peaceful means.”

  • Between 14 April 2014-15 May 2017,  the OHCHR recorded 34,056 casualties among civilians, the Ukrainian military and members of armed groups in the Donbas, 10,090 people killed, including 2,777 civilians, and 23,966 injured.
  • The established Russia-backed statelets LNR and DNR originally sought to join Russia but the Kremlin hasn’t ever recognized both “republics” as states over the 3 years.
  • At a summit in Minsk on 11 February 2015, the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, France, and Germany agreed to a package of measures to alleviate the ongoing war in the Donbas region of Ukraine. The package is now known as Minsk-2

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Comments

  1. Avatar Eolone says:

    Zack wouldn’t understand the joke: Malus Russia. Better would have been Perderassia. Make Putin proud.

  2. Avatar Robert says:

    Wow. Exactly WHAT has this guy been smoking, drinking and/or injecting?!?

    1. Avatar Scradje says:

      Whatever it is, it comes out of fuehrer pootler’s a$$.

      1. Avatar Styx says:

        From your mouth, in fact.

        1. Avatar Brent says:

          I can’t believe the Kremlin still pays you for posting such pointless drivel “Ian”….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32eabe5b3c1625d760b15c32d0f291bf9c24e7e18465f6c2186c626d9afc4e11.jpg

          1. Avatar focusser1 says:

            What’s he doing out of his basement?

          2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

            Went looking for an outhouse but slipped into cesspit. He stinks!

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        Then firmented again!

  3. Avatar Robert says:

    I wanna try some of his meds! 🙂 Obviously, it makes for a real trip..

  4. Avatar focusser1 says:

    Another one of Zakachenko’s mad moments. He also said Ukraine would cease to exist as a state by May 2nd, after he had destroyed it. Still waiting for that to happen. Guess he must have had a bad batch of krokodil again.

    1. Avatar Styx says:

      You can’t stop dreaming ..

  5. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

    This imbecile must be on something really funny. In the same breath of his “malorossia” diatribe, he claimed that during the “Volyn’ massacre”, it was the Ukrainians who killed the people in Khatyn’ – which was perpetrated by the Germans 600 km away from Volyn’.

    1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

      It would be interesting to know whether Zakharchenko was speaking for himself or whether he was simply stating what His Master’s Voice i.e. Pedo Putolini and Surkov had told him to say. I believe Zakharchenko was speaking for himself and his cronies in an attempt to force the dwarf to become more active in the Donbas by actually starting an offensive to seize much more territory. Zakharchenko’s Kolorads don’t have the strength to mount a successful offensive, they would be wiped out in short order so he can’t act without full Dwarfstanian support.
      Economically the so-called DNR and LNR can’t exist without massive subsidies from Moscow so trying to seize more territory and create something that can actually be self-supporting makes some sort of sense. But politically any sort of offensive could lead to increased sanctions against Dwarfstan which would further damage its economy and reduce its ability to subsidise its satellites Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia and the Crimea even further- due to the economic woes the dwarf has already been forced to slash those subsidies to keep his wars in Syria and the Donbas going. There’s also the minor matter of whether such an offensive would be successful in the first place.

      1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

        What he said.

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        This cow pie on steroids has stated repeatedly he wants to take over all of Donetsk. I wish I could talk to highly nationalist people to thwart this crap. The man is deserving of a thermobaric enema!
        Reading Adolph Hitler’s Mein Kampf from 1924 and then comparing to subsequent events and now looking at Fuhrer Shorty the Shirtless, comparing previous events and little goat Bad Vlad’s actions gives a good indication of future events. As I have stated previously, reading Pee-Wee Pootin’s statements prior to the end of the Sochi Olympics told me he would have troops in Ukraine after the Olympics were over and before a month passed. It was 4 days! Listen and take note of what these dangerous rectums are saying. There are more in the background in Moscow that are even more dangerous than what we see and deal with now. It is past time to get the fly swatter out. Step on the cockroaches!

    2. Avatar Ihor Dawydiak says:

      Anything that comes out of the cake hole from one of the Kremlin’s unofficial court clowns, namely Oleksandr Zakharchenko (aka Ivan Durak), should be considered as both meaningless and absurd. Furthermore, this worm, who adorns himself with plastic medals he probably found in a box of dried prunes and who spends 99% of his miserable existence hiding in underground bunkers, has no real authority nor does he speak for the residents in Russian occupied Donbas. In fact, he will be one of the first to try and flee to Russia when the Ukrainian Government eventually reasserts its control over this occupied territory. However, it remains to be seen if Putin the Pederast will even want this useless turd as there would be no purpose in holding on to a soiled piece of toilet paper.

      1. Avatar Styx says:

        Dream on, “ihor”.

        1. Avatar Brent says:

          GFY “Ian”

    3. Avatar Styx says:

      Executioners in Khatyn were Ukrainians from Ukrainian Auxilliary Police.

      1. Avatar Brent says:

        C’mon “Ian”, when your Kremlin masters yank your chain, you’re supposed to do the Russo Nazzi troll chant of “Bandera!!! Bandera!!! Bandera!!!”

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        Your father crapped on a warm rock in the sun which you grew from. Just as relevant as that idiotic drivel you just spewed!

      3. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        So Pee-Wee Pootie troll; you paint all Ukrainian citizens with the same brush as a handfull of Nazi sympathizers from WW2. Many of those probably saw cooperation as a means of survival during a difficult time in history. I do NOT condone their actions, however putting all Ukrainians in the same box is wrong.
        Today there is Pootlerstan military and militia rebels doing the same in east Ukraine. There is also a long list of assasinations and murders of reporters and citizens who speak out against the Kriminal regime in Moscow!
        Leave the past no matter how despicable events were, in the past. We are dealing with events and attitudes of recent history. If you look to the past, do so with the intent to learn from it to not make the same mistakes! The Nazi Third Reich came to naught, and so will the kriminal regime and aspirations of Fuhrer Shorty the Shirtless!

    4. Avatar Brent says:

      These Russian puppet a$$clowns all still fear the ghost of Bandera….

  6. Avatar Scradje says:

    Much of the blame for the continued occupation by pootlerstanian scum of sovereign Ukraine territory lies with the sniveling collaborators Merkel and Hollande, who, far from being honest brokers, allowed a criminal fascist state to walk all over them. And Ukraine. There is already a place for a jumped up little tribal boss like Zakharchenko and that is pootlerstan; the home of the culture of greed, hate, killing and lies that he loves so much.

    1. Avatar focusser1 says:

      Now another snivelling Putlerite, Gabriel, says sanctions should be eased to give Russia incentive to adhere to Minsk. Unbelievable!

      1. Avatar Styx says:

        Nothing you say should be believed, self-confessed serial killer.

        For obvious reasons.

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        Damn appeaser. That is close to treason in my mind. Stand on his throat!

    2. Avatar Styx says:

      keep fuming, brainless bum ..

    3. Avatar Dale Davies says:

      Pee-Wee Pootin pulled the nuclear missile threat out of his pants pocket and scared the crap out of them!

  7. Avatar Screwdriver says:

    This looks like “separatists” are not really “separatists”, they just call for bringing back historical name to the Russian territories which were never officially named Ukraine (until 1918), but called “Malorossiya” for centuries. So Kiev regime can not really call DPR “separatists”, it is the other way around. Kiev regime rulers becoming separatists , disrespectfully calling historical lands of Malorossiya – Ukraine.

    1. Avatar Brent says:

      I think you’ve been inhaling too many toilet cleaning solution fumes “Screwball”….

      Are you going to rename yourself “Malotoiletcleaner”???

      1. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

        Brent, I said it before, leave the insulting to the likes of Screwdriver and C°.

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        Definately mal something!

    2. Avatar veth says:

      After Putler is gone, Russia will be divided by all the neighbouring states.

      1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

        Good for them

        1. Avatar veth says:

          Siberia back to China, Karelia to Finland, Rostov and Voronesj Oblast incl. Crimea back to Mother Ukraine etc.

          1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            ..Ukraine back to Malorossiya

          2. Avatar veth says:

            Fascist Russia has lost Ukraine for ever. Donbass will be liberated. Crimea will be returned when Putler is dead, gone, arrested, or hanged.

          3. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            Few galicians can not speak for entire Ukraine. Crimeans happy under Russia, feel protected per BBC report. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-8HlhblTu0

          4. Avatar veth says:

            Economy is destroyed in Crimea, tourism 90% down. Crimea is Ukraine for ever. All students go to Ukraine universities. Not fake Russian universities.

          5. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            “Before Bizet went to Crimea — a peninsula south of Ukraine, surrounded by the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov — he read a Western European newspaper that said tourism has decreased over the years.
            Once he got there, people told him otherwise.
            “When I arrived and discussed with some people, they told me — Russian people — that it’s not true,” Bizet said. “Tourism is going up because of the new politic of Vladimir Putin, who’s trying to make tourism (in Crimea) affordable for Russian people.” http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/europe/cnnphotos-crimea-vacation/index.html

          6. Avatar veth says:

            Tourism is 90% down in temporal occupied Crimea, photos shows the empty beaches!

          7. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            Not true. Evidence is very clear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqvcOrOI1Z8

          8. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            Ukrainians vacationing in Crimea, very happy :

          9. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            So do the real-time videos of the tourist resorts. Even Dwarfstanians avoid the Crimea and prefer going to Egypt and Turkey if they can afford it, or otherwise Sochi. The only Dwarfstanians who go to the Crimea are civil servants who are told by their superiors that it is their “patriotic duty” to go on holiday to the Crimea, with a generous subsidy from the State.

          10. Avatar veth says:

            If fascist Hitler-Russia is such a paradise for you, why stop cleaning toilets in South Philadelphia and emigrate to your fascist paradise?

          11. Avatar svend lykkegaard says:

            Of course they are very, very happy in Crimea. They dont have to worry about turists who before occupied must of the beaches, hotels, restaurant ect. Now they have all Crimea for them selves, exept a lot of Russian soldiers, but they dont earn money from them. They dont have to worry about electricity, not much of it, they dont have to worry about water, not much of that either. They dont have to work in the fields, now only 1/10-th of the agricoulture left. So of course the are happy.

          12. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            Not just Crimeans who are very happy, but also people in Ukraine want to join Russia.
            “Many In Eastern Ukraine Want To Join Russia” – according to Western sources . http://www.npr.org/2017/06/24/534207470/many-in-eastern-ukraine-want-to-join-russia

          13. Avatar veth says:

            CRIMEANS ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THE FASCIST OCCUPATION.
            Support for Russia in Ukraine is less than 10%…., nazzi.

          14. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            Not true. Very happy.
            “Crimeans back Russian takeover: If they try to take it back, ‘I will fight’”
            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/01/04/crimean-essay-soviet-union-collapse-25th-anniversary-russia/95419178/#

          15. Avatar veth says:

            Crimea is Ukraine. by every law, toiletcleaner

          16. Avatar Brent says:

            So if Russia is so glorious why did you flee to the USA?

          17. Avatar Brent says:

            Plotnitsky, the LPR fascist leader, is a “Galician”

          18. Avatar svend lykkegaard says:

            Strange, never heard about Malorossiya. Mayby just a little Russians teens dream.

          19. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            May be you should read “ukrainian” most famous classic Taras Shevchenko, he called “Malorossiya ” his home, not Ukraine.

          20. Avatar Brent says:

            And you will be going back to clean toilets in Muscovy???

          21. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            And Königsberg back to Germany!

    3. Avatar Микола Данчук says:

      All you Bolsheviks have mental handicaps?

    4. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

      Screwdriver, read the well known poem ‘Testament’ (1845) by Taras Shevchenko and then you might know that the Ukrainian nation existed long, long before it became a state for the second time in 1991.

      There is a beautiful translation by John Weir (1961).

      ‘When I am dead, bury me

      In my beloved Ukraine.

      My tomb upon a grave mound high

      Amid the spreading plain.

      So that the fields, the boundless steppes,

      The Dnieper’s plunging shore

      My eyes could see, my ears could hear

      The mighty river roar.

      That Russia and the Russians always looked upon Ukraine, the Ukrainians, their language and their culture with condescension – cfr. the use of Malorossiya and little Russians – doesn’t mean that Ukraine didn’t exist before it became a state.

      And in the end it’s is for the Ukrainian nation to decide its future and no business whatsoever of Russia nor the powers that be in the Kremlin. How much Putin & C° might dislike this fact.

      1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

        Not sure if you aware – In his private diary Taras Shevchenko wrote “Malorossiya” twenty one times, and “Ukraine” 3 times .
        And also…just for your information :

        “Little Russia” ( Malorossiya) developed into a political and geographical concept in Russia, referring to most of the territory of modern-day Ukraine before the twentieth century. ( The first recorded usage of the term is attributed to Boleslaus George II of Halych.[9] He styled himself «dux totius Rusiæ Minoris» in a letter to Dietrich von Altenburg, the Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights in 1335)
        Accordingly, derivatives such as “Little Russian” (Russian: малоросский) were commonly applied to the people, language, and culture of the area. Prior to the revolutionary events of 1917 a large part the region’s élite population adopted a Little Russian identity which competed with the local Ukrainian identity.”…
        “The term Little Rus’ has been used in letters of the Cossack Hetmans Bohdan Khmelnytsky[12] and Ivan Sirko.[13][14] The Archimandrite of the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra Innokentiy Gizel wrote that the Russian people is a unity of three branches: Great Russia, Little Russia and White Russia under the only legal authority of the Moscow Tsars. The term Little Russia has been used in Ukrainian chronicle by Samiylo Velychko, in a chronicle of the Hieromonk Leontiy (Bobolinski), in “Thesaurus” by Archimandrite Ioannikiy (Golyatovsky).[15]”
        “Up to the very end of the nineteenth century Little Russia was a prevailing designation for much of the modern territory of Ukraine controlled by the Russian Empire as well as for its people and their language as can be seen from its usage in numerous scholarly, literary and artistic works. Ukrainophile historians Mykhaylo Maksymovych, Nikolay Kostomarov, Dmytro Bahaliy, Volodymyr Antonovych acknowledged the fact that during Russo-Polish wars “Ukraine” had only a geographical meaning of borderlands of both states but “Little Russia” was an ethnic name of Little (Southern) Russian people”
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russia

      2. Avatar NATOcracy says:

        And why Shevchenko was writing ‘ukraine’ with a small letter?

        http://cdn01.ru/files/users/images/26/22/26227639a6daab8bb223e3a882b6effd.jpg

        And why he was writing his intimate diary in Russian?

        p.s. Still waiting for your replay on my previous post )

  8. Avatar Screwdriver says:

    Looks like uncle Donald gave up on the “Ukraine” and told Putin about it. This move may help to justify liberation of Malorossiya by real Russian army, and put the end to the “ukrainian” civil conflict. As it was written in stone on Bogdan Khmelnitskiy monument in Kiev – “Волим под царя восточного, православного!”

    1. Avatar Brent says:

      yes, the great “real Russian army” that has captured an area smaller than Delaware…..I guess there weren’t more hospitals for them to bomb in Donbass like in Aleppo….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60c9b16a8c71818204f34415ea4d59cb9002e41a07ed5be856b24481dfe7293f.jpg

    2. Avatar veth says:

      Civil conflict? where? You mean the Russian-Ukrainian war in Donbass, started by nazzi-Russia.

        1. Avatar veth says:

          10.000 Russian troops in Donbass, still, 5000 killed by Ukraine, that’s good. 200 GRAD en BUK-systems in Donbass from Russia and 600 Russian tanks, MH17 sdowned by the Russian Army. Only pure fascists like you, supports these crimes.

          1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

            OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) could not confirm the presence of Russian troops in the Donbas region
            http://112.international/conflict-in-eastern-ukraine/osce-not-confirms-russian-troops-presence-in-donbas-zannier-9389.html

          2. Avatar veth says:

            300 Russian Army soldiers in Ukraine prisons, arrested in Donbass.

        2. Avatar Brent says:

          You’d better see a doctor and get a blood test. Either your Nicaraguan boyfriend or all the bacteria from cleaning toilets has infected your delusional brain

  9. Avatar Victor Victory says:

    Ukraine needs Iron Man to kill putin and end the war in E ukr

    1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

      Great point. Russia needs new stronger and fearless leader, who would move the Russian Army to Malorossiya to end that civil war and liberate malorussians.

      1. Avatar Brent says:

        All while you are safely sitting in South Philly cleaning toilets….such a brave little troll you are!!! Go fight the cause yourself “Screwball”….I’d love to know if you could splatter as well as your hero “Motorola”….is your terrorist funding website still raising money for him?

        1. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

          Brent, stop this ‘toilet’ nonsense. Your lowering yourself to the level of Screwdriver and C°.

      2. Avatar veth says:

        The Russian Fascist Army is already 3 years killing Russian speaking Ukrainians, you smile.

      3. Avatar Микола Данчук says:

        Maybe they can get “Moose and Squirrel” to run the place!

  10. Avatar Brent says:

    Other names considered by the new fake state run by Zakharchenko

    1) Puppetrussia
    2) Dreamonrussia
    3) A$$clownistan
    4) Putintopia
    5) Lostonvacationistan
    6) Stillsmallerthandelawareistan
    7) Fukkoffbacktorussia
    8) Nevergoingtoberussia
    9) Explodingleaderistan
    10) Drainonrussia

    1. Avatar Screwdriver says:

      “Проводил Грицька Галагана в Малороссию и пошел к графине Н[астасье] И[вановне] с целью устроить себе постоянную квартиру в Академии.”

      “Проездом из Петербурга в Вятку на службу посетил меня сегодня Яков Лазаревский. Он недавно из Малороссии.”

      “В Малороссии совсем не то. Там деревня и даже город укрыли свои белые приветливые хаты в тени черешневых и вишневых садов. Там бедный неулыбающийся мужик окутал себя великолепною вечно улыбающеюся природою и поет свою унылую задушевную песню в надежде на лучшее существование. О моя бедная, моя прекрасная, моя милая родина!”

      “Был у меня во время оно приятель в Малороссии, некто г. Афанасьев, или Чужбинский. В 1846 году судьба столкнула нас в «Цареграде», не в Оттоманской столице, а в единственном трактире в городе Чернигове”

      “Потом уеду на дешевый хлеб в мою милую Малороссию и примуся за исполнение эстампов”

      Kobzar ( Taras Shevchenko )

      http://litopys.org.ua/shevchenko/shev501.htm

      1. Avatar Brent says:

        Is that the steps you follow when cleaning toilets “Screwball”???

    2. Avatar veth says:

      Russia outfoxed European Union sanctions by delivering gas turbines made by Germany’s Siemens to the annexed Ukrainian region of Crimea. Now for the hard part, switching them on.

      No Russian company, according to Reuters data, has ever got a Siemens turbine working without the help of the manufacturer.

      1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

        Siemens will help, never fear. Seehofer and Adolfina will protect the company from prosecution in Germany. The European Commission and the US, however, are a different kettle of fish. Even if Germany doesn’t press charges, it’s highly unlikely that the Baltics and Poland will allow Siemens to get off scott free. As for the US, with Trump in an anti-German industry mood Washington will happily seize the oportunity to slam a leading German industrial giant. The value of the Crimean order was about 112 million Euros but evading the sanctions could end up costing Siemens many times that.

        1. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

          ‘The value of the Crimean order was about 112 million Euros but evading the sanctions could end up costing Siemens many times that.’

          And well deservedly so!!!

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        Pootlerstan pulling an end around. They were delivered for a supposed power plant in another location that looks like a smoke and mirrors deal. Let them get the turbines installed and then pass out thermobaric enemas!

    3. Avatar veth says:

      BBC: Russia rejects new Donetsk separatist ‘state’

    4. Avatar veth says:

      Intelligence reports clash between militants and “DPR policemen”
      Directorate General of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine reports that several people were killed as the terrorists detained their deserters.

      DONETSK (QHA) –
      Due to the low level of the moral and psychological state in the Russian-occupation troops, violations of military discipline continues, which leads to irreversible and sanitary losses, according to report of the Directorate General of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine on Facebook.

      GUR informed that during the armed clash between representatives of the “law enforcement bodies of the DPR” and the personnel of the unit of the 3rd separate motorized rifle brigade (Horlivka), two “policemen” and one military were killed, five of the conflict participants were injured.

      Intelligence further reported that during the detention of a group of deserters, three military of a separate commandant’s regiment (Luhansk) and the 4th separate motorized rifle brigade (Alchevsk) of the RF Armed Forces were killed and seven injured.

      According to the intelligence, a serviceman of the 9th separate assault motorized infantry regiment of the Marine Corps (Novoazovsk) 1 AC of the RF Armed Forces was killed during the installation of stretch marks in the state of alcohol intoxication, four more were seriously injured.

      GUR press service notes that in the report to the high-level command, the regiment’s command represented the loss of personnel as a consequence of the “shelling of the ATO forces “.

      Earlier QHA reported that on July 16, the strategic unmanned aerial vehicle of the US Air Force RQ-4A Global Hawk carried out reconnaissance of the Donbas.

      1. Avatar Brent says:

        Turning on each other like the true Russo nazzi scum they are…

      2. Avatar Dale Davies says:

        “Sanitary losses”, does that mean they lost their schmit and it trickled down their leg instead of getting caught in their tighty whities?

    5. Avatar Dale Davies says:

      Demonrossiya.

  11. Avatar Tony says:

    Lol maybe they should try to get positive economic growth first, reforms, you know things that actually make peoples lives better instead of sacrificing all for their kremlin masters:
    https://voxukraine.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/905.png
    https://voxukraine.org/2016/07/18/and-the-lights-went-out-measuring-the-economic-situation-in-eastern-ukraine-en/

    1. Avatar veth says:

      Russia had to postpone the deadline for the delivery of the nuclear icebreaker Arktika due to the severance of economic relations with Ukraine.

      KYIV (QHA) –
      The Russian Federation can not build the nuclear icebreaker “Arktika” in due time because of the lack of parts produced in Ukraine, the Russian edition of Kommersant informed.

      Reportedly, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to postpone the deadline for the delivery of the LK-60YA nuclear icebreaker “Arktika” from 2017 to 2019. But the source of the publication, close to the construction of the icebreaker, believes that even in these terms will not hard to meet.

      The main problem is in turbines. Initially, according to the plan, they were to be tested by the Kharkiv turbine plant in Ukraine, but after the Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014, a decision was made to build the stand at the Kirov-Energomash enterprise.

      The Shipbuilding Corporation complained about staffing problems, a large time gap in the implementation of similar projects, the loss of competencies, the alteration of the technical design and documentation.

      It should be noted that the construction of the two-reactor icebreaker “Arktika” began in November 2013 and cost the Russian budget 37 billion rubles.

  12. Avatar veth says:

    Ukraine marks 600 days without Russian gas Ukrtransgaz, the state-owned operator of Ukraine’s gas transmission system, said that on Wednesday, July 19, it has been 600 days since Ukraine has halted gas imports from the Russian Federation.

    Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/economics/2037869-ukraine-marks-600-days-without-russian-gas.html