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Regular readers of the Disinformation Review already know that the accusation of Nazism is one of the favourite techniques of pro-Kremlin outlets. The current Russian leadership describes the USSR as the only winner over Nazi Germany, and it is even illegal to recall that Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were allies at the beginning of World War II.

The most “targeted” country in this respect is definitely Ukraine. Again and again, pro-Kremlin media accuse Ukrainians and their government of being Nazis, as we can see in the latest Disinformation Review. But in last 16 months, the East StratCom Task Force has collected many more examples of pro-Kremlin media labelling countries, citizens and politicians as Nazis:

German authorities were accused of supporting fascists tendencies – despite the fact that German polls show that the number of people sympathizing with neo-Nazism is decreasing. In January 2017, Dmitry Kiselev’s popular news show claimed that German chancellor Angela Merkel sought “Lebensraum” in Eastern Europe like the Nazi regime.
– A Latvian school was allegedly awarding graduates with rings featuring a Nazi Swastika when in fact every graduate was free to choose his own ring.
Americans were accused of supporting Nazis during World War II, allegedly using them to fulfil their dream of defeating Russia. This article on Russia Insider, published ten months before the US elections of November 2016, presented a video of Hillary Clinton with “satanic glee” as evidence (similar messages were relayed by the notorious disinformation-oriented outlet Infowars.
– The European Commission was claimed to be founded on Nazi ideas (see here or here). This “revelation” was based on the claim that Walter Hallstein, the first president of the Commission of the European Economic Community, was a prominent Nazi and a member of NSDAP. Well, he wasn’t – his biography states that his “attitude to National Socialism was hostile, and he even cultivated contacts with declared opponents of the system”.
– Nazism was supposedly “thriving” in Lithuania, which is claimed to constantly violate the rights of Russian speakers. This is not true, already because Lithuania, before joining the EU, was subject to intensive scrutiny by the EU to ensure the rights of the Russian minority.
– The entire EU has been branded a “Nazi brainchild” that was supposedly planned by Adolf Hitler himself.
– The whole West: As major Russian TV show Vremya Pokazhet explained, the attitude of Russophobia allegedly prevalent in the West is intended to destroy Russians in the very same way that Nazis aimed to destroy Jews (watch it here at minute 9:49). In Vladimir Solovyov’s TV show, we heard that “US-led Europe” has been carrying out the Nazi policy of “geopolitical racism” towards Russia, convincing Russians that they are the “wrong nation” where uncivilized methods are allowed.
– And also Europe in its entirety, especially the Baltic countries have been termed Nazis, supposedly because of Angela Merkel who demonstrates her “commitment to Aryan ideas by approving of Nazism in the Baltic countries”. The Baltic states are also said to use neo-Nazi methods against Russia in order to impose European values there, which is a direct threat to President Putin’s power.
NATO is not spared from the accusation of Nazism, given that it allegedly poses the same threat to Russia as Nazi Germany did to the USSR in 1941. Again, in the major TV show Vremya Pokazhet, formerly run by Pyotr Tolstoy, who is now deputy speaker of the Russian Duma. The supposed evidence for NATO’s Nazism is that the design of the Alliance’s new headquarters resembles and was therefore allegedly inspired by the symbol for the Nazi paramilitary organisation SS.
– Finally, pro-Kremlin media have also identified some Nazis in Russia. But they are exclusively connected to Russian opposition activists and are preparing a revolution against the current authorities. This revolution was supposed to begin the very next day after last year’s parliamentary elections. The elections took place in September 2016; no revolution yet.

From this brief overview, it appears there are only two possibilities in the unique universe of pro-Kremlin media. Either you live in Russia and support the current Russian regime; or if you do not meet these two requirements, you might find yourself called a Nazi.

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  1. Avatar Mykola Banderachuk says:

    this nazi thing is getting to be a old tired propaganda line from the comedy writers of moskva – no one believes this bull manure anymore.

    1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

      These goofy “nazi this” and “nazi that” accusations sound especially rich coming from what has now essentially become a fascist country. But you’re right, when they hurl those “nazi” accusations left, right, and center, overdosing with them make them trite. It should also be noted that every time they point a finger at a “nazi”, three fingers are pointing back at the country that had been officially siding with and fought together with Hitler before he did the U-turn in June 1941 and whose up to 1 million men fought on the Hitler side thereafter in the Vlasov’s corps.

      1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

        They are playing to a domestic audience, many of whom have never been outside RuSSia. They are clueless.

        1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

          Precisely. And, as far as the goal is concerned, it works because the more primitive and flattering is the claim, the better it works with the sheeple. And in this case it’s just that: “We, the Russians, and only Russians, are the only ones who’ve ever opposed the Nazis, and we, and only we, have defeated them – all alone. Hence everyone who doesn’t agree with us or what we do is a Nazi”. As simple as that, and they swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

          1. Avatar Styx says:

            And in the very curious case of monster raving loony “oknemfrod” it’s just that: “We, the oknemford, and only oknemfrod, are the only ones who’ve ever opposed the Nazis, and we, and only we, have defeated them – all alone. Hence everyone who doesn’t agree with us or what we do is a Nazi”. As simple as that, and “we” – the “oknemfrod” swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Wow, you are still obviously very angry. As many of us have pointed out to you many times, your argument that Russia alone defeated the nazzis is patent rubbish. Russians still don’t know how the world works.

          3. Avatar Styx says:

            I never lowered myself to any kind of argument with you.
            You know that much perfectly well.

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course you attempt to argue with me. But not often, because you know you aren’t good enough. Nor with Oknemfrod, Zorba, Michaela, Dagwood, Ihor or any of the numerous others who post here. The reason is that we use reason, facts and analysis in our posts, and you don’t know how to answer that.

            And no, I am not ranting about Russia. Just explaining the truth. It is a second-rate regional power, pretending it is a super-power, and on its way to breaking apart.

          5. Avatar Styx says:

            Of course you are an idiot and will die being one.

          6. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh dear, did I hurt your feelings, you poor old man?

            Just telling the truth little Styx – Putin is an incompetent pervert who is driving Russia to its doom, while the Russian economy gets weaker each day, and its army fails.

            sorry, but its the truth

          7. Avatar Styx says:

            Don’t flatter yourself, sick little boy.

            You know nothing of truth.

            It is a common knowledge that you and your comrades in crime believe your idiotic lies with passion.
            All schizophrenics do.

          8. Avatar Alex George says:

            Now if that were really the case, then you would easily be able to post some facts and reasoning to refute me, couldn’t you? But we both know you can’t.

            The truth is not difficult to understand, just hard for you to accept:

            Putin is an incompetent pervert who is driving Russia to its doom, while the Russian economy gets weaker each day, and its army fails.
            It is a second-rate regional power, pretending it is a super-power, and on its way to breaking apart.

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney58

          10. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 36

          11. Avatar George Evans says:

            you mention all the fake IDs you use, eh…

          12. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, says George = Styx = Che Guevara = Andrew Chmile

            You never get any upvotes except from your other accounts. ;o)

          13. Avatar George Evans says:

            better than from dirty Turd, eh…

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            so who did beat them ??? while the Russians were being slaughtered with the Allies looking on…

          15. Avatar Alex George says:

            “so who did beat them ??? ”

            Thank you for admitting that you don’t know. Like most Russians, ignorance is your trademark.

            Nazi Germany was defeated mainly by the western allies. But in the east, it was defeated by the USSR, not by Russia alone. The USSR consisted of Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan and many other nations. They fought courageously, helped by generous western assistance.

            Yet all their efforts went for nothing – they fought only to put Hitler’s ally, the fascist Stalin, in charge. And today another fascist Putin rules Russia.

            How modern Russians have spat on the graves of the generation who fought Hitler!

          16. Avatar George Evans says:

            there used to be a Music Hall song…”it wasn,t the yanks that won the war..it was my boy Willy ” …
            what is in a name ???

            and the Yanks gave assistance to anybody who would actually fight the Nazis,,,, the only real brave ones were the Russians..who can forget Stalingrad…

          17. Avatar Alex George says:

            Funny then how the Belarusians and Ukrainians paid a higher price in lives to defeat nazi germany than the Russians did. Looks like those Russians weren’t quite as brave as you think.

            But at least they fought fascism – by contrast with modern Russians who support it.

          18. Avatar George Evans says:

            are you including the Nazis from the Ukraine…most of them fled to Canada and the US…

          19. Avatar Brent says:

            looks like FAKE “George Evans” is setting up for his usual “Bandera!!! Bandera!!! Bandera!!!” chant…..

          20. Avatar George Evans says:

            you must remember the Odessa massacre…the guilty animals are starting to be afraid now…Nemesis is coming…. bent…

          21. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Putin’s people did the Odesa massacre
            Now they are hiding in Russia

          22. Avatar George Evans says:

            bs…grow up ..you will feel better if you confess…

          23. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Its not bs
            Putin’s people did the Odesa massacre
            Now they are hiding in Russia

          24. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish…

          25. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

          26. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 30

          27. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            The Odesa massacre was committed by Putin’s agents

          28. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s true
            Putin’s people did the massacre in Odesa.

          29. Avatar Styx says:

            “Putin’s people did the Odes(!)a massacre
            Now they are hiding in Russia”

            As MichaelA’s people would surely know, since they were the pigs flying above the crime scene at the time ..

          30. Avatar Styx says:

            even more highly toxic gas, coming from the same old long suffering .. ..

          31. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You have just supported his point

          32. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah…but the Nazis fought on the side of Hitler…

          33. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So did stalin and the ussr

          34. Avatar George Evans says:

            you are sounding more and more desperate, mick….

          35. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, he, Dagwood and Brent are sounding very sensible.

          36. Avatar George Evans says:

            both dummies..just like you…

          37. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO “dummies”. You sound like a little child in the school playground . Where did you learn English?

            Dagwood, Brent and Michaela have just told you the simple truth – huge numbers of Russians fought for Hitler in WWII, and tens of millions of Russians love Hitler now.

            Putin is an incompetent leader, as well as a pervert and a fascist. He is destroying Russia, through his greed and stupidity

          38. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s well known
            So did stalin and the ussr

          39. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Yes especially the millions of Russians who fought for him

          40. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 32

          41. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Millions of Russians fought for hitler
            Far more than the numbers of Ukrainians who fought for him

          42. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Or the millions of Russians who fought with nazi germany in WWII

          43. Avatar George Evans says:

            they were the Uke Nazis,.mick…

          44. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No they were millions of Russians who fought for nazi germany

          45. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 31

          46. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s the truth
            Millions of Russians fought for Germany in WWII

          47. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course, since there are so few of them . In contrast to Russia where they are a huge majority of the population.

            For example lone of the largest ever neo-nazzi organsitions is called United Russia.

          48. Avatar George Evans says:

            talk Unglish, dummy…

          49. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO My English is perfect. And even though yours is pretty poor, you understood me quite well. But since you claim not to understand, well, that is a great reason to tell you again! ;o)

            There are very few fascists in Ukraine. In contrast to Russia where they are a huge majority of the population.

            For example one of the largest ever neo-nazzi organisations is called United Russia.

          50. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 33

          51. Avatar Alex George says:

            Nor the far greater numbers of Russians who fought for Hitler.

            But then, you are afraid to think about them, aren’t you. Run, rabbit run.

            And you still claim that the USSR only contained Russians – you are ignorant.

          52. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 34

          53. Avatar Alex George says:

            But there were very few of them, wasn’t there. And of course even some of them found work with the Soviet government.

            But there were millions of Russians who supported Hitler, just as there are tens of millions of Russians today who support him.

          54. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 12

          55. Avatar Styx says:

            It obviously never occurred to you how stone cold manipulative and blatantly dishonest were the people who made a Porosyonko’s toy of you.

            You will end up paying very dearly for the crimes of the very people who so callously abused you.

          56. Avatar Alex George says:

            Hi Styx/George Evans/Andrew Chmile, you forgot which account you were using, but no matter. As usual, you dare not try to refute any of my points, and just resort to random abuse. That speaks volumes for how much belief you have in your own position, i.e. none.

            When I write that Nazi Germany was defeated in the east by the USSR, not by Russia alone, and that the USSR consisted of Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan and many other nations – you aren’t actually denying that, are yo?

            Same when I write that those nations fought courageously, helped by generous western assistance – you don’t anywhere actually deny that.

            Nor when I write that all their efforts went for nothing, because they fought only to put Hitler’s ally, the fascist Stalin, in charge. And today another fascist Putin rules Russia.

          57. Avatar Styx says:

            You are talking of your own disgusting ways and habits just for a change, mentally deranged idiot.

          58. Avatar Alex George says:

            Wow, so you regard courage as “disgusting ways and habits”. How typical of a Russian under Putin’s regime!

          59. Avatar Styx says:

            More idiotic nonsense from you.

            Be off, sick little boy.

          60. Avatar Alex George says:

            Sure, when you can answer my questions:

            When I write that Nazi Germany was defeated in the east by the USSR, not by Russia alone, and that the USSR consisted of Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan and many other nations – you aren’t actually denying that, are you?

            Same when I write that those nations fought courageously, helped by generous western assistance – you don’t anywhere actually deny that do you?

            Nor when I write that all their efforts went for nothing, because they fought only to put Hitler’s ally, the fascist Stalin, in charge. And that today another fascist Putin rules Russia.

          61. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh hi George – are you using the Styx account again now? Whatever…

            Now tell me this – what in my post above did you disagree with? Anything? ;o)

          62. Avatar Styx says:

            six more posts from the same sick little idiot ..

            be off, useless troll.

          63. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh no, many more than that.

            But there would be a lot less if you would only answer my question. What in my post above did you disagree with? Anything?

          64. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The allies didn’t look on
            They gave lots of help to ussr
            But the ussr gave none to us
            BEcause Stalin was a fascist
            He hated us more than he hated hitler
            He loved hitler until hitler attacked him

          65. Avatar George Evans says:

            they would have given anything to set the Russians against the Germans…anything would have been a good deal ( for the so called Allies )…

          66. Avatar MichaelA says:

            They didn’t.
            stalin and the ussr gave everything to support hitler
            Stslin helped hitler to prepare armies and agreed to divide up Europe with him.
            He loved hitler until hitler attacked him
            Then the west helped the ussr – without western help ussr would have lost

          67. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense…

          68. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No, truth

          69. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 28

          70. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Sorry, it’s still truth

          71. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 8

          72. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Do you are saying the Russians shouldn’t have fought the Germans
            Thanks for admitting it

          73. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 29

          74. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No you said it clearly
            According to you the ussr should not have fought the Germans in WWII

          75. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 9

          76. Avatar Styx says:

            You are going on as if you never had your head examined, Misha.

            Shall I make an appointment for you ?

          77. Avatar Ihor Dawydiak says:

            It should also be noted that the Kremlin’s department of disinformation goes far beyond trying to smear any perceived enemy as just “Nazis” or “fascists”. On so many occasions, when the Kremlin or its surrogates have been involved in notorious criminal activities (including crimes against humanity) against individuals, groups or nations, they have falsely accused those who they have aggrieved of perpetrating either the same actions or similar actions against ethnic Russians or their supporters. Why? Their devious purposes stemming from the Soviet era have been relatively straight forward. They want to deflect public opinion away from their own criminal actions by “throwing mud against the wall (of their perceived enemy) and hoping some of it will stick”. The putinistas have also made it a priority to preempt any criticism of their crimes by disseminating their lies as quickly as possible and with as much fantasy fanfare as they can muster. Finally, Moscow’s objective has never been to try and confuse or change the views of those who know the truth. That would be pointless. They have always sought to influence the uninformed, the mentally challenged and most importantly, their internal population which has almost always been exposed to one-sided lies and propaganda. Therefore, the daunting challenge to the West as well as the international community to reveal the truth should be obvious. A much greater effort will be needed to expose and continue to expose Putin’s lies for what they are using any medium possible. It can be done.

          78. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Yes, it should be noted, and thank you for having noted it. Well said.

          79. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            This styx moskal don’ like you I think….

            ————— 🙂

            Styx

            Oknemfrod

            14 hours ago

            And in the very curious case of monster raving loony “oknemfrod” it’s
            just that: “We, the oknemford, and only oknemfrod, are the only ones
            who’ve ever opposed the Nazis, and we, and only we, have defeated them –
            all alone. Hence everyone who doesn’t agree with us or what we do is a
            Nazi”. As simple as that, and “we” – the “oknemfrod” swallow it “hook,
            line, and sinker” and wash it down with a vintage Ukrainian moonshine.

            —————————
            An’ for your FURTHER DELECTATION (don’ bother to thank me!)
            ——————–

            Styx

            Oknemfrod

            16 hours ago

            As one of your comrades in arms said about you recently – you can
            “rant and rave as much as you like, scream at the monitor and smash the
            keyboard”, but it doesn’t change the fact that you know nothing of
            truth. “Vlasov’s corps” never fought anywhere and you know all about
            that.

          80. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Yeah, this baboon “styx”, posting from his cuckoo nest, obviously strongly dislikes my intestines as a result of my exchanges with him, under his various guises, a couple of years ago. Which is a good thing since it means I must have done something right. Haven’t seen his kwap since I blocked him, but from what you’ve just related to me, he isn’t in remission and has only gotten worse. No reason whatsoever to waste time on his delirium.

          81. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            I had read you blocked him …. so I figured you might think he had improved in termsof his character & morals … I never liked him … snotty pretentious fk that he was/is … BUT your mileage may vary … being used to them and all …. thus “immune” possibly — or a great tolerance maybe???

            Maybe the medicine helped him or something 🙂
            Clearly he knows you are no good!

          82. Avatar Styx says:

            Only daily injections of Clopixol can improve your character or morals, Andrew.

          83. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            Nah’ ….. you need some Haldol.
            5 cc IM shot — in each butt cheek.

            Then you will be c a l m …

          84. Avatar Styx says:

            I am always calm when shooting small insects like you, Andrew.

          85. Avatar George Evans says:

            what about trying to write in English???

          86. Avatar Styx says:

            No guises of any kind for you or anybody else, frau dorfmenko.

            Just pure, sincere revulsion towards your disgusting mannerisms and habits.

          87. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, the troll pretends to have a conscience! Keep trying you silly old man. ;o)

            Learn what morals are, and learn how Russia is collapsing and falling apart due to your pathetic fuehrer’s poor leadership

          88. Avatar George Evans says:

            but nobody likes you, dummy…

          89. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh but they do like him, which is why he gets lots of upvotes, and you do not.

          90. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah..but still nobody likes you…

          91. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh but they do like me, which is why I get lots of upvotes, and you do not.

          92. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 17

          93. Avatar Styx says:

            Oh but they do love/have you while you type, sickly little boy.

            And you love it, don’t you.

          94. Avatar Alex George says:

            Very much so – I love the fact that you repeatedly show that you cannot come up with any arguments to refute me nor any of the other supporters of Ukraine on this site. Even a casual reader will quickly realise the intellectual bankruptcy of the Kremlin supporters.

          95. Avatar Styx says:

            Even a casual reader will quickly realise that you are a criminally insane abuser who in turn is being abused by your nazzi employers.

          96. Avatar Alex George says:

            They would only do that if you made some attempt to refute the things I write. But you know you can’t, just as you can’t refute the posts of Scradje, Dagwood, Vasyl, Dirk etc.

            Looking at your inability to confront anything we write, even a casual reader will quickly realise the intellectual bankruptcy of the Kremlin supporters. So, thank you.

          97. Avatar Styx says:

            frau dorfmenko expressed her sexual preferences for young boys on many occasions.

            We all know how pedofiles like her usually end up.

          98. Avatar Brent says:

            Like you and your troll sidekick FAKE “George Evans”?

            Ian, you keep getting reassigned to Ukrainian news sites by your Kremlin masters….but at least you and “Georgey” keep upvoting each other!!! You’re the Russian version of DUMB AND DUMBERAKOV…..

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/48d9d3e713d1361706f07e8c97d73713f73ec7bdb67cdff022525acf92862ce7.jpg

          99. Avatar Styx says:

            You are high again, gas.

          100. Avatar George Evans says:

            the onlt germ able to be high and low at the same time…ol’ bent….

          101. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, and so now you can’t even spell simple words.

            Oh well, no surprises there – the primitive Russian school system strikes again .

          102. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 19

          103. Avatar George Evans says:

            hello bent..bent by name , bent by nature….

          104. Avatar George Evans says:

            have you ever taken a peek at who upvotes you..???

            people in glass houses…..bent..

          105. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Lots of people upvote him
            nobody upvotes you except the same two fascists

          106. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 18

          107. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Brent is upvoted by many people
            Not just here
            Have a look at UA Today.

          108. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 5

          109. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No its true
            and you lost count

          110. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 3

          111. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Pedophiles – like putin?

          112. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Pedophiles
            LIke putin?

          113. Avatar Styx says:

            like MichaelA, frau dorfmenkoknemfrod, zorbatheturd, scradje, alex george and various other brain damaged trolls posting on this site incessantly on behalf of president porosyonko.

          114. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Sure
            when you think everyone else is insane guess what that says about you

            Sorry to break it to you but putin is a pedophile

          115. Avatar Styx says:

            I understand why you need to believe this garbage: You can’t bear to face the fact that you have handed Ukraine over to Nazis, I.M.F. loan-sharks, war profiteers and mentally deranged pedofiles like yourself.

          116. Avatar MichaelA says:

            I haven’t handed anyone over to anything.

            The Ukrainian people made their decision. They rejected putin the pedophile and his nazzis

          117. Avatar Styx says:

            Given the choice the Ukrainian People would send an English speaking podonok like yourself to the gallows.

            And they will eventually.

          118. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Sorry but that won’t happen
            The Ukrainian people have turned away from your fascism
            They rejected it and you

          119. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 6

          120. Avatar Styx says:

            Of course it will.

            The Ukrainian people know that you vouch for Ukrainian fascists and will deal accordingly with you.

          121. Avatar MichaelA says:

            only in a Russian fascists wet dream
            Ukraine has turned away from Russia
            Irrevocably
            These days they deal with krem trolls

          122. Avatar Styx says:

            You are talking about yourself again, just for a change.
            You can’t help it, can you ..

            (eight)
            Be off persistent troll.

          123. Avatar Alex George says:

            LOL Now you are getting desperate Georgie. Look at what is actually happening in Ukraine. I appreciate you have never been there, but at least try watching the news.

            The people are firmly united in opposition to the imperialism and repression of the Kremlin. They are doing their best to rid their country of its legacy of Soviet corruption. Those who try to do the Kremlin’s work are run out of the country.

            So sure, let them “rise up” just like they did in 2014. That won’t help you.

          124. Avatar Styx says:

            Even the Almighty won’t help you now, Porosyonko’s sex toy.

          125. Avatar Alex George says:

            What would you know about the Almighty? you are just another of these atheistic Putin supporters who pretend to be “Christian”.

            The people of Ukraine are firmly united in opposition to the imperialism and repression of the Kremlin. They are doing their best to rid their country of its legacy of Soviet corruption. Those who try to do the Kremlin’s work are run out of the country.

          126. Avatar Styx says:

            You know absolutely nothing of Christianity or Ukraine.

          127. Avatar Alex George says:

            Thank you for the meaningless comment. I asked what you would know of the Almighty, when you are just another one of these atheistic Russians who claim to be “Christian”. As usual, you are afraid to answer.

            You know that the people of Ukraine are firmly opposed to the imperialism and repression of the Kremlin. They get rid of those who try to return Ukraine to its old corrupt ways.

          128. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 5

          129. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 21

          130. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Why is it rubbish
            Give a reason.
            If you can

          131. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 20

          132. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Farkov you piece of human garbage. The t u r d is you, Putin bumboy.

          133. Avatar Styx says:

            sordid old turd can’t stop being an idiot ..

          134. Avatar Brent says:

            So FAKE “George Evans” and his sidekick “Styx for brains” just got reassigned to this site!!! Did you two trolls get kicked off Bloomberg AGAIN??? You two seem inseparable…..

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a35827a43bea1d7e5a68cdeb1bef5012e1ca4231767f0bbc88d5a9b75a657cf3.jpg

          135. Avatar George Evans says:

            somebody has to show your poison for what it is, bent…

          136. Avatar MichaelA says:

            pity you can’t

          137. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 2

          138. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, very good… ;o)

          139. Avatar Styx says:

            Mixing gorilka with the same old gas, coming from the same old a double s is bad for your liver, overexcited gas.

            Consider giving up both of your recreational activities in order to recover from the extreme damage you deliberately inflicted on yourself.

          140. Avatar George Evans says:

            I don,t understand a word of what you scribble, dummy…

          141. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            “I don,t understand”
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

            Learna da Anglish, you stupid Russo-mongolian POS!

          142. Avatar George Evans says:

            much better…almost intelligible…

          143. Avatar Styx says:

            More salo, Ihor ?

          144. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah..it hurts you to know that the Russians,,,a brave people ,,were the only people who beat the Nazis…

            they were the best…

          145. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            RuSSians are the best kiddy porn purveyors, yes.

          146. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah dirty Turd is back….

          147. Avatar Alex George says:

            He is actually being very restrained, when you consider the behaviour of the Russian “elite”. You just don’t like him telling the truth that your leaders are depraved, as well as incompetent.

          148. Avatar George Evans says:

            he is a dirty idiot…

          149. Avatar Alex George says:

            Wow,. that’s the best you can do?

            Typical Georgie – never able to come up with an argument or marshal facts.

          150. Avatar George Evans says:

            zzzzh…

          151. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            You suck Putin’s a s s.

          152. Avatar George Evans says:

            poor sad sack, turd…

          153. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – this is Georgie “marshaling his arguments”…. ;o)

          154. Avatar George Evans says:

            zzzzzh zzzzzh

          155. Avatar MichaelA says:

            yeah
            notice how he just writes a few random letters because he cannot think of anything to say!

          156. Avatar Alex George says:

            Great idea you had there – notice how I have used it. ;o)

          157. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 8

          158. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Putin rapes cats.

          159. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney56

          160. Avatar Alex George says:

            Sorry little boy – the Russians did not beat the Nazis. And as for how “brave” they are – in Donbas they turn and run, those “brave” soft Russian boys….

            Its not their fault of course – they are sent to die by a tyrant who is prepared to waste their lives as long as it guarantees his own obscenely rich lifestyle.

          161. Avatar George Evans says:

            the Kiev Nazis are only interested in fighting when the Odds are heavily stacked in their favor..like in Odessa three years ago…
            yeah..they sure are ANIMALS…

          162. Avatar Alex George says:

            Changing the subject now? Okay, fine.

            In Odessa, the fire was started by Putin’s people. That is why they are now hiding in Russia. It is believed that some of the dead in the building were their prisoners, whom they murdered.

            As for the odds, since 2014 Ukrainian soldiers and volunteers have fought courageously to hold back the barbarians from the east, the Kremnazzis who onloy want to plunder

          163. Avatar George Evans says:

            just repeating lies will not make them “true “…the monsters rsponsible for the Odessa crime will pay…Nemesis is on the way…

          164. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Those monsters won’t pay until putin falls because putin is protecting them
            FSB caused the Odesa fire

          165. Avatar Alex George says:

            Correct, so stop repeating lies – it doesn’t make any of your lies true.

            FSB agents caused the Odesa fire. They will pay for their evil deeds, whether it takes one year or twenty.

            The courageous Ukrainian army holds back the barbarians from the east – the Kremlin Mongols who only want to rape and pillage the slavic people of Ukraine .

          166. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 22

          167. Avatar George Evans says:

            Ukraine will be free …of the Nazis and Nulands haunting them…

          168. Avatar Alex George says:

            I agree – Ukraine will be free, as soon as the Krem-nazzis are expelled from Ukraine, along with all their hatred and bile

          169. Avatar George Evans says:

            and the Nulands ???…

          170. Avatar Alex George says:

            There are no such things as “Nulands” you poor pathetic fool. Grow up.

            The important thing is that Ukraine will be free, as soon as the Krem-nazzis are expelled from Ukraine, along with all their hatred and bile

          171. Avatar George Evans says:

            Nuland is counting whales off the coast of Alaska,,but her crazy ideas live on in Kiev…for a while longer yet…but not too much longer…

            another lot of Uke Nazis will be reminiscing in Canada and the USA soon…

          172. Avatar Alex George says:

            As I told you there are no such things as “Nulands”. Glad you finally admit that. As for Nuland, how is she relevant? It was the Ukrainian people who rejected the corruption of Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych. They also rejected his attempts to arrest, torture and kill peaceful protesters.

            That is why Putin failed – he tried to fight the people of Ukraine.

            There are hardly any “Uke Nazis” so who cares what they do? But your millions of fellow Russian nazis are crying already.

          173. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 21

          174. Avatar Styx says:

            Your schizophrenia is progressing, I feel very sorry for you.

          175. Avatar Alex George says:

            Hi George, interesting that you don’t deny anything I wrote.

            You don’t deny that the fire in Odessa was started by Putin’s people, nor that they are now hiding in Russia

            You don’t deny that since 2014 Ukrainian soldiers and volunteers have fought courageously to hold back the barbarians from the east, the Krem-nazzis who only want to plunder and pillage Ukraine.

            You don’t deny that the Russian army had numbers and vastly superior equipment, but the Ukrainians had much better motivation.

            And you don’t deny that is why Russia only holds a tiny sliver of eastern Ukraine, and has not been able to get any more, for over two years.

            Excellent – you are learning!

          176. Avatar Styx says:

            You lied and lied and lied again.
            And you believe your lies with passion.
            All schizophrenics do.

          177. Avatar Alex George says:

            Then why don’t you deny what I wrote? You haven’t denied anything because you dare not.

            Why not produce some facts or reasoning which disprove even one of my points?

            You don’t for one simple reason – you can’t.

          178. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh hi George, are you Styx now? Just changed over cubicles in St Petersburg did we?

            Anyway, whatever – you do not deny anything that I have written, because you know its true.

          179. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Kiev patriots kicked Russian arse
            You know it

          180. Avatar George Evans says:

            thank the Lord we had a steady hand on the tiller in President Putin…the Ukrainian fascists are lucky they survived and they did it all by themselves , eh ???

          181. Avatar Alex George says:

            Putin is an incompetent fool who has done huge damage to Russia. He is driving it inexorably towards break-up.

            Russia needed a new Peter the Great or Ivan Grozny. Instead, it got Nicholas II.

            Ukraine is free from rule by the fascists in the Kremlin, and yes, it did it largely by itself. Russia is that weak, and it cannot subude the united Ukrainian people.

          182. Avatar George Evans says:

            a very great man, President Putin…if he were a RC he would be in line for a sainthood at the very very least…
            and the poor Uke Nazis…well they have poor .ol Shenko…a dismal sod…

          183. Avatar Alex George says:

            What is “great” about him? Under his rule, Russia is disrespected, its army is weak, its economy is going downhill. most things he attempts fail (often miserably), he has become a figure of fun, and his country is starting to break up.. What in all of that makes him “great”? ;o)

            By contrast, Ukraine has survived everything that a much larger country (Russia) ruled by fascists can throw at it, and is improving each year. It is getting better in the economy, military, diplomatically, trade and culturally. Therein lies true greatness.

          184. Avatar George Evans says:

            he probably saved the world…from the Nazi hordes,,,

          185. Avatar Alex George says:

            How could he save anyone from nazzi hordes when he led the nazi hordes?

            You still haven’t answered the question which I and others have put to you – Under his rule, Russia is disrespected, its army is weak, its economy is going downhill. most things he attempts fail (often miserably), he has become a figure of fun, and his country is starting to break up.. What in all of that makes him “great”?

          186. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 6

          187. Avatar Alex George says:

            So, you can’t actually think of a single thing that makes Putin great, can you? I gave you every chance, and you couldn’t even think of one.

            If you ever do think of just one thing, do let me know… ;o)

          188. Avatar George Evans says:

            a very great man…almost a saint…President Putin…

          189. Avatar Alex George says:

            Sure, hence my question – what is “great” about him? I am waiting to hear what it is, even one thing. I have asked many times. Surely you can say just one thing about him that is “great”?

          190. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah…a very great man…a paragon of virtues…
            now…poor .ol Shenko, what a dismal failure…

          191. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            I respectfully submit that Nicholas II would be a far better ruler than the fascist demented pedophile dwarf is.

          192. Avatar Alex George says:

            Sadly that is probably true.

            Although Nicholas lost the Russian empire, his successor Lenin was able to put it back together within a few years. I don’t think Putin will leave that legacy to his successors – the shattered remnants of what is now the Russian federation are likely to be impossible to put back together.

          193. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 24

          194. Avatar George Evans says:

            not so , dagbum…President Putin is the greatest statesman in the world today…a fine leader and intelligent too…

          195. Avatar MichaelA says:

            the greatest statesman yet you cannot name a single achievement by him

          196. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 1

          197. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So name one then
            Try to name a single achievement of putin

          198. Avatar Alex George says:

            Correct. He will post single words to you, but he will not attempt to cite a even one alleged achievement of Putin. Just watch. … ;o)

          199. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Exactly as you predicted.
            He can’t even think of onee

          200. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 23

          201. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Big words from a man whose army got shot to crap in the Donbas

          202. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 25;;;I am keeping the score for your paymasters..so they can see just how much your dumbness is costing them…@.10 cents ea..

          203. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Your army was shot to crap in the Donbass
            The smart ones ran away

          204. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 7

          205. Avatar Brent says:

            Just like you and your sidekick STYX FOR BRAINS regularly “beat” each other? You both show up back here at the same time….and upvote each other’s posts…… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/77f8402af4747d107df0fdec9ba16c68ff7b82adf46056fa7bf4a3738dc23180.jpg

          206. Avatar George Evans says:

            what about you and your braindead creatures,,such as Dirty Turd, eh ???… you should get better company, bent…

          207. Avatar Alex George says:

            So that is your definition of an intelligent response? No facts, no arguments, .no reasoning. Just typical uneducated Kremtroll waffling

          208. Avatar George Evans says:

            go and have a play with bent and the dirty turd,,,

          209. Avatar Alex George says:

            Excellent – your post in reply has proved my point, in spades.

            Your definition of an intelligent response turns out to mean No facts, no arguments, no reasoning. Just typical uneducated Kremtroll waffling

          210. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 9

          211. Avatar Styx says:

            Your schizophrenic ramblings are not worthy any kind of argument.

            WHO, on good Earth, would ever want to argue with a headless fool like you ?

          212. Avatar Alex George says:

            You want to argue with me, that’s who. But you aren’t very good at it. Just as you can never remember which account you are using. ;o)

            So keep running little rabbit. You do not have any facts or reasoning to support your position, as you yourself admit.

          213. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney57

          214. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh hi, George – have you switched back to the Styx account now?

            The answer to your question is …. you. You want to argue with me. The problem is, you don’t know how.

            You know that your precious fuehrer Putin is an incompetent pedophile who is running Russia into the ground. You know that his foolish aggression and imperialism against Ukraine has only ended up hurting Russia. You know that Crimea and Donbass are still Ukrainian. But there is nothing you can do about it.

          215. Avatar Styx says:

            Just like your sidekicks Alex George, Michael A and various other vermin in arms of yours who frequently upvotes your idiotic posts.

          216. Avatar George Evans says:

            maybe they are the same body…just a split personality…???

          217. Avatar MichaelA says:

            They weren’t the only peiple who fought the nazis
            Under Stalin the Kremlin allied with the nazis
            You Russians are so arrogant that you deny the millions of other people who fought the nazis
            No wonder your nation is despised around the world.

          218. Avatar George Evans says:

            then why are they fighting the Ukrainian Nazis…???

          219. Avatar MichaelA says:

            They aren’t
            The Kremlin is allied with the ukrainian nazis in the Donbass who call themselves separatists

          220. Avatar George Evans says:

            the Uke Nazis all live in Kiev, mick..

          221. Avatar Alex George says:

            Yes, all 20 of them. Whereas the Krem-nazzis hold most of the seats in the Duma….

            You really need to get an education Georgie boy, before trying to argue with your betters….

          222. Avatar George Evans says:

            try 20,000 ..but that is not really a lot…it is the organization and financing from the USA that enables them…but the ordinary decent Ukrainians will soon rise up and out the lot…

          223. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – so you admit that there are no more than 20,000 fascists in Ukraine – compared to the millions of them in Russia!

            Ordinary decent Ukrainians have already risen up and thrown out the lot. The fascist leader was called Yanukovych. Ukrainian fascists were organised and funded by the Kremlin.

          224. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 27

          225. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You got him Alex
            He has given up even trying to respond
            Very funny

          226. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 7

          227. Avatar Alex George says:

            Great idea MA. I’ve used it in several posts. The result is very funny.

          228. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 10

          229. Avatar Styx says:

            There is nothing to respond to, gormless Misha.

            Both you and Alex are deranged.

          230. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The nazis lives in the Donbas and in the Kremlin

          231. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 11

          232. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            All alone in a pure one-to-one war Stalin wouldn’t have stood a chance against Adolf. To name but a few reasons:
            1 There would have been no Lend-Lease. No thousands of aeroplanes- Hurricanes, Spitfires, P-39s, P-40s, P-63s, A-20s, B-25s etc etc. No thousands of tanks- Valentines, Lees, Shermans etc etc. No tens of thousands of trucks- GMC, Studebaker, no jeeps, etc etc. No radios, no boots, no high-grade petrol and lubricants, no aluminium, no food and all the other material supplied by the UK, Canada and the US. No nothing. Soviet industry and agriculture would have had to produce all these goods, but they were already at the limit. No can do.
            2 No RAF and USAAF air raids on Germany, which required increasing numbers of flak guns and fighters to counter, many withdrawn from the Eastern Front or not sent there at all. With those guns and fighters at the Eastern Front Soviet losses would have been even greater. Furthermore, German industrial output would not have been disrupted by the bombing meaning even larger output than it was.
            3 No German occupation troops in Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Yugoslavia and Greece. No need to prop up Mussolini in Libya, meaning more German troops avaliable for the war against Stalin.
            4 No Battle of the Atlantic. Germany outproduced the allies in submarines; but without the naval war the industrial output for subs would have been used for other purposes which were more relevant for the war against Stalin.

            In short, a far stronger Adolf facing a weaker Stalin.

          233. Avatar George Evans says:

            and when the war in the East was finished ????
            you pinpointed precisely why the West was so clear as to why Russia HAD to stay in the war…
            so…having shot yourself in the foot, what about the LendLease…

          234. Avatar MichaelA says:

            What about all the other countries who fought against Germany in the east?
            You only know about Russia
            You don’t know much

          235. Avatar George Evans says:

            like who ???

          236. Avatar MichaelA says:

            See – I said you only know about Russia and you just proved it
            You know nothing about any other country

          237. Avatar George Evans says:

            stop blathering, mick…marshal your facts and present them….except you do not have any…

          238. Avatar Alex George says:

            That;s very funny coming from you. Seriously, when do you ever marshal any facts and present them? Your posts are merely cheap abuse.

          239. Avatar George Evans says:

            you get the response your inane comments deserve,,

          240. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, so you admit everything I wrote!

            You admit that you have repeatedly been asked to provide facts and reasoning to support your rants, by myself and other people, but you never can.

            You poor pathetic little coward – no wonder the boys in the Russian army are so soft…

          241. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 14

          242. Avatar MichaelA says:

            i did
            So marshal your facts and present them.
            You’ve never done it before so why not now

          243. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 12

          244. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            You never marshal facts

          245. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 4

          246. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Poland, for instance- despite Stalin having murdered some 20,000 Polish officers at Katyn, Bykivnia and elsewhere.

          247. Avatar George Evans says:

            there was not a lot of opposition when the majority of the Jews slaughtered by the Nazis were in and from Poland..not forgetting the Ukraine, of course…a prime recruiting ground for Concentration camp guards…

          248. Avatar Alex George says:

            And being a Nazzi yourself, you applaud that . That is why Russia today is one of the most anti-semitic countries in the world.

            If the generation of Russians who fought Hitler were alive today, they would spit on you.

          249. Avatar George Evans says:

            you are sounding more and more idiotic…

          250. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, I’m sounding more and more like someone who describes you accurately. And you don’t even know how to deny it.

          251. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 15

          252. Avatar Alex George says:

            Wow, you really do know nothing – you don’t know where any countries are in the former USSR.

            But good to see you admit it.

          253. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan…
            All the countries you have never heard of
            They were part of something called the ussr

          254. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 11

          255. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth. There was this thing called the ussr
            It beat the Germans in the east
            Not Russia

          256. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 3

          257. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            USSR = Useful Serfs Serving RuSSia.

          258. Avatar MichaelA says:

            That’s very good

          259. Avatar George Evans says:

            stinky and turd hanging together…

          260. Avatar George Evans says:

            stinky mick

          261. Avatar Kapricorn4 says:

            Lend Lease was a double edged sword, since the deal was to allow US military bases in Europe, that are still there today.

          262. Avatar George Evans says:

            you will confuse them with TRUTH and FACTS if you are not careful…

          263. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            The ONLY bases deal was the swap of 50 obsolete USN four-piper destroyers for US bases in British colonies- Bermuda, Trinidad etc. This deal was arranged in the summer of 1940, well before Lend-Lease was introduced. Nowhere was there any mention of US bases in Europe.

            That there were and still are US bases in Europe is thanks to the USSR’s aggressive actions after 1945, and Pedo Putolini’s aggression more recently. Many bases were closed after 1991- to give but one example, there was an airfield near where I live which had a USAF squadron stationed on it for many years, but the squadron was withdrawn to the US after 1991 and the base dismantled. It’s now the site of a housing estate.

          264. Avatar Kapricorn4 says:

            The US closed the US Air Force base at Mildenhall in 1991, but expanded its base at Lakenheath in Suffolk. Additionally the US established military bases in many countries.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

          265. Avatar Alex George says:

            Which proves DB’s point.

          266. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 4

          267. Avatar George Evans says:

            bout time all the US occupation forces went home…
            conventional wisdom was “the trouble with the Yanks is they are overpaid, oversexed and over ‘ëre ” …
            nothing changes,,,ask the good people of Okinawa …

          268. Avatar Alex George says:

            Since there are no “US occupation forces”, you don’t have to worry . Most people in the world want US forces there .

            However they do not want the barbaric nazzi forces of Russia anywhere near them.

          269. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah,,they wanrt US forces there exactly…in the USA…

          270. Avatar Alex George says:

            And with them. And barbaric Russian forces nowhere near them.

          271. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 5

          272. Avatar MichaelA says:

            What occupation forces?
            The USA has friends that it helps
            It’s not like Russia

          273. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 22

          274. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            You are full of sh#t.

          275. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 54

          276. Avatar Alex George says:

            Since you have never managed to do that, perhaps he should have a try.

          277. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 3

          278. Avatar Alex George says:

            rubbish 4059

            LMAO

          279. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney55

          280. Avatar Alex George says:

            Lend Lease had nothing to do with US bases in Europe.

            Did you ever learn even the most basic history?

          281. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 6

          282. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Gotta stomp the evil Russkies.

          283. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Adolf wasn’t interested in Western Europe. If the UK and France hadn’t declared war on Germany on Sept. 3rd 1939 he would have left both alone. His sole interest was expanding to the east, and always had been.
            Without the UK, Canada and the US Stalin would have lost, though the war would have been a long one and Germany, although the eventual victor, would have been exhausted at the end.

          284. Avatar George Evans says:

            Hitler,s attack on Poland triggered the War…but only because he knew that commitments made to that country meant inevitably that the French and British would “come to their aid if Poland were attacked “.. Hitler knew that, he attacked and there was a declaration of War…
            would you not say Hitler did it..he forced them to declare war…

            Hitler was conned into believing the Invasion of Russia would be a cinch…it was not…the real truth about WW2 is not yet out there and it is comical to hear you pontificating about it…

            what do you know about the strange situation in Spain at that time…the Franco mob were assisted by Hitler AND the Allies and “won ” the Civil war…the main military assistance was from the Germans. political cover being provided by the Allies ( particularly their blockade of Spain…)
            Had Franco joined the Axis,the Med would have been closed, the UK would have been largely cut off from India ( a major source of manpower ) and points East. Franco refused…
            Hitler did not invade Spain ???why ??
            the whole course of the war changed..
            of course, despite his crimes against his own people, Franco led a charmed life after the war..until death finally spared his people more suffering….
            had Hitler done anything coherent about Spain and the Med, the Germans and Japanese would have joined, India would be lost..the course of events in Australia and NZ could have been so different…
            and you blithely say Hitler was not interested in going West…
            stop talking rot, dagbum..

          285. Avatar Alex George says:

            Yes you are talking rot. Hitler’s attacks on Poland triggered the war, but he only did that because he was assured that his ally Stalin would attack from the other side.

          286. Avatar George Evans says:

            and the Allies who supported Hitler…what were they doing…NIL…you heard of the ” phony war ” ,. maybe..er maybe not…

          287. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO what a moron, who doesn’t even know what the “phony war” actually was!

            Nobody in the West was an ally of Hitler.

            But Stalin was. He helped Hitler prepare his armies, he admired Hitler, and he agreed to divide up Europe with him.

          288. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 10

          289. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Not only that, but Ribbentrop assured Adolf that London and Paris would do nothing, as they had done nothing previously.
            The actual declarations of war by first London and then Paris were a complete shock.
            While the UK and France declared war on Germany, Stalin was busy carving up Poland with his pal Adolf.

          290. Avatar Alex George says:

            Excellent points.

            It just illustrates how all of these Putin trolls put together don’t know the most basic facts about WWII.

            Thus we see the decline in Russian schooling right before our eyes.

          291. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 9

          292. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            To be fair, they were never properly educated in the first place. For the average Homo Sovieticus and Femina Sovietica, WW2 started on June 22nd 1941. They weren’t taught any different, and certainly in Dwarfstan still aren’t.

          293. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 8

          294. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 7

          295. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Stalin was a world class scumbag and his successor sits in the Kremlin today.

          296. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except its you who have shot yourself in the foot.

            You admit that the USSR did not want to fight Hitler.

          297. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 16

          298. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Thanks for spelling it out, Dag. To make the picture even more complete, add the German divisions tied up by the Allies in Africa and thus kept off the Eastern front and also no need for Stalin to worry about the Japanese war machine in his backyard. And even after that, you and I have just scratched the surface.

          299. Avatar George Evans says:

            which Divisions ???…very small compared with the Eastern front…and again only to stop Egypt falling and the Mediterranean becoming a no go area… get real, dummy..

          300. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You need to learn about WWII
            You don’t know anything about it

          301. Avatar George Evans says:

            facts ????

          302. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s a strange concept for you.
            We understand

          303. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 2

          304. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No, it’s the truth. Every bit of your post above is wrong. You don’t know anything about WWII

          305. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 29

          306. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 4

          307. Avatar Styx says:

            BARELY scratched the surface of your extreme ignorance you certainly did, frau dorfmenko.

          308. Avatar Kapricorn4 says:

            The tide was turned in WW2 at Stalingrad, when the German Army was driven back West by the Russians. The US had little to do with that, i think.

          309. Avatar No Such Agency Knows says:

            Adolph Hitler sabotaged the German effort.
            Angela is related to Hitler?
            “According to the Stasi GDR File, the daughter of Hitler is now
            holding the same office as her father – Chancellor of Germany.”

          310. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Actually, it was turned in April-May 1943 when the Royal Navy and US Navy started to master the U-Boot threat. Had Dönitz succeeded in cutting off the convoys to the UK as he very nearly did in March 1943, it would have been Game Over in Adolf’s favour. Without those convoys the UK would have been starved of both weapons and food. There would have been no more convoys to Murmansk and Arkhangelsk and eventually the flow to the USSR through Abadan would have been cut off as well by U-Boote operating from Penang. No invasions of Sicily and Italy to draw German troops from the Eastern Front. No RAF and USAAF raids to damage and disrupt German industry and draw flak guns and fighters home for Reichsverteidigung etc etc.

            EVERYTHING depended on the outcome of the Battle of the Atlantic.

          311. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except that it didn’t turn the tide, despite the fond wet dreams of Russians. The Germans lost almost as many men, and far more equipment, in the North African campaign a short time later.

          312. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 1

        2. Avatar George Evans says:

          interesting to see the turd joining in…after the fascist animals in Turkey had their way with the Armenians they should duck for cover…
          they will NEVER be allowed in the EU…just bad character…that is , lof course, why the Ukraine will never be allowed in either..until they comprehensively dispose of the diseased nazis in their midst…

          1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Eat a raw porcupine, Putin assbuddy.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            Dirty Turd…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            That is exactly the level of response I would expect from somebody educated in the third-world Russian school system. ;o)

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            are you talking about the dirty turd ???

          5. Avatar Alex George says:

            I don’t know, did Zorba get educated in Russia? I never knew that .

            But you did, and it shows in the low cultural and educational level of your replies.

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            what are you babbling about..???

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            You understood me Georgie, so don’t pretend.

            Anyway, isn’t a five-word post a bit over-skilled for you these days? ;o)

          8. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            You are not I.

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            sad old turd…

          10. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, is that the best you can do?

            You don’;t have any arguments, do you.

          11. Avatar George Evans says:

            who can argue with an incoherent fool..???

          12. Avatar Alex George says:

            So you see my problem.

            But the fact is that you don’t have any arguments, do you

          13. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 13

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            I know what your problem is…you are dumb…

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 26

          16. Avatar Scradje says:

            Pootlerstan is the world’s top naзi state, kremtroll; that’s where all the ‘diseased naзis’ are. It is astonishing that there are still bovines out there promoting the cretinous propaganda of the troll tv channels and troll websites of the troll state of pootlerstan. ‘George Evans’ is the type of puss-filled maggot that gloats when fuehrer putler murders yet more children and old ladies. Accusing your victims of your own sins is getting passé even for kremtrolls.

          17. Avatar George Evans says:

            you are smoking funny stuff again, eh…

          18. Avatar Alex George says:

            But you can’t answer him, can you?!

          19. Avatar George Evans says:

            how can you reply to gibberish…better to argue with a gorilla…

          20. Avatar Alex George says:

            There is no gibberish. Everyone’s posts are quite clear and easy to follow. But you cannot answer our points

          21. Avatar George Evans says:

            the only point you have is between your eyes,,

          22. Avatar MichaelA says:

            George probably committed war crimes in the Donbass or Chechnya.
            That’s why he is shitting himself that putin will fall.

          23. Avatar George Evans says:

            only one mob committed war crimes ..the Nazis..not forgetting Nuland is equally complicit…

          24. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The Russians committed the war crimes.
            That is why you are shitting yourself.
            You know you will stand trial

          25. Avatar George Evans says:

            Nemesis is on the way, mick..heading straight for Kiev…

          26. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – except nemesis is creaky and stopped dead in the Donbass two years ago! Your precious Russian army is pathetic, completely useless. It has poor equipment and is filled with soft Russian boys who won’t fight.

          27. Avatar George Evans says:

            the fight has not even begun, little boy…

          28. Avatar Alex George says:

            It certainly hasn’t – the strength of the new Ukrainian army hasn’t been measured yet. Meanwhile, the pathetic Russian army has shot its bolt.

          29. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Okay wake me up when it gets there will you

          30. Avatar George Evans says:

            you may not even hear it,,,and certainly would not understand it…

          31. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So
            Not much of a nemesis then is it

          32. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 12

          33. Avatar MichaelA says:

            I understand your fear
            But there is no way you can escape punishment for what you have done.
            In the end the investigators will find you
            And the Kremlin won’t protect you

          34. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 39

          35. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            In the end the investigators will find you
            When that time comes th Kremlin won’t protect you

          36. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 11

          37. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 13

          38. Avatar Styx says:

            “No it’s the truth
            In the end the investigators will find you
            When that time comes th Kremlin won’t protect you”

            When did you say was the last time you had your head examined, Michael ?

          39. Avatar Styx says:

            Slow down Michael, you are now asking for a bullet at the back of your sick reptilian head.

          40. Avatar Styx says:

            I am amazed that Putin lets you live, disgusting cretinoid scradje.

            Being hanged for malicious slander is the least that you deserve.

          41. Avatar Brent says:

            Are you still whining about Turkey shooting down that Russian jet? And now Putin is so desperate for money he’s going to sell a S-400 system to Turkey? Is that the “revenge” he vowed to take against Turkey? Or maybe did Putin realize he’d better unload some S400’s after they DID NOTHING to stop the 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles the U.S. launched against the Syrian airbase?

            http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/turkey-finalizing-deal-russia-purchase-deadly-s-400-air-20331

          42. Avatar George Evans says:

            talking gibberish again, bent…

          43. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s not gibberish
            Easy to understand

          44. Avatar George Evans says:

            if you understand gibberish…

          45. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s simple English easy to understand

          46. Avatar George Evans says:

            gibberish…

          47. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, this moron cannot even assemble a complete sentence!

          48. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish…

          49. Avatar Alex George says:

            And proves it yet again! ;o)

          50. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 38

          51. Avatar MichaelA says:

            It’s simple and easy to understand but not for you
            You have to learn English first

          52. Avatar MichaelA says:

            If you understand English
            Your English is poor so you don’t understand it

          53. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 37

          54. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Good glad you agree with me
            Next time just admit at the start that your English is poor
            Brent’s post was easy to understand

          55. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 10

          56. Avatar George Evans says:

            Turkey and Russia just agreed to normalize bilateral relations…what did Turkey agree to ????

          57. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha yes – and Turkey recognises Crimea as belonging to Ukraine . Take that for normal if you want.

            Turkey will take the southern parts of Russia, just as China will take the eastern.

          58. Avatar George Evans says:

            Turkey just surrendered to Russia,,,

          59. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except it didn’t did it.

            Quite the opposite – Turkey is doing what it likes around the Black Sea, it supports Ukraine, and Putin has no choice but to fall into line. He needs Erdogan far more than Erdogan needs him.

          60. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 13

          61. Avatar Styx says:

            Are you still whining about being intellectually under equipped, gas ?

            Try giving up inhaling or guzzling or both and you might recover eventually ..

          62. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Ukraine will join the eu and nato.
            You can’t stop them

          63. Avatar George Evans says:

            watch this space …it aint happening so long as the Nazis are there terrorizing the ordinary decent Ukrainians…
            but they will no be there too much longer…the EU cannot afford the subsidies…

          64. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You and your fellow nazis are in Donbas
            But you won’t stop Ukraine joining the eu or NATO
            EU can afford lots of subdidies
            It is not poor like Russia

          65. Avatar George Evans says:

            not while all those Nazis are there…

          66. Avatar MichaelA says:

            But you won’t be soon

          67. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 42

          68. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Soon all Russians will be evicted from Donbass

          69. Avatar George Evans says:

            the EU is a busted flush..after the UK and France escape..only Germany is left..except the Baltic States with a combined GDP the equivalent of East Anglia…

          70. Avatar Alex George says:

            OMG, what are you on about now, you idiot?

            We are leaving the EU, and we remain completely opposed to Russia.

            Nobody else is leaving the EU, so don’t delude yourself.

          71. Avatar George Evans says:

            you are NOT allowed…you are inferior…

          72. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ah yes, little Georgie’s ignorance just goes on and on.

            We are leaving the EU, but that won’t help you because we remain completely opposed to Russia. Surely even you are aware of that?

            Nobody else is leaving the EU, so don’t delude yourself.

          73. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 40

          74. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Sour grapes
            You know you will never be allowed in

          75. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 41

          76. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Russia will never be allowed into the eu
            That is the real reason you hope Ukraine isn’t

          77. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Sorry but what I wrote is the truth
            You and your fellow nazis are in the Donbass but you won’t stop Ukraine joining the EU or NATO
            The eu can afford lots of subsidies
            It isn’t poor like Russia

          78. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The nazis will be ejected from Donbass don’t worry

          79. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 43

          80. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            The nazis will be evicted from Donbass

          81. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 2

          82. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 15

      2. Avatar Styx says:

        As one of your comrades in arms said about you recently – you can “rant and rave as much as you like, scream at the monitor and smash the keyboard”, but it doesn’t change the fact that you know nothing of truth.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          Wow, you really are as thick as two short planks – I wrote that YOU can rant and rave as much as you like, scream at the monitor and smash the keyboard, but it won’t get you anywhere.

          Your frustration and fear is obvious, combined with your inability to put together an argument to justify your fuehrer Putin’s foolish war against Ukraine.

          1. Avatar Styx says:

            Yes, Alex – you really are as thick as two short planks – you wrote that YOU can rant and rave as much as you like, scream at the monitor and smash the keyboard, but it won’t get you anywhere.
            Your frustration and fear ARE obvious, combined with your inability to put together an argument to justify your fuehrer Porosyonko’s foolish war against people of Donbass.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, the troll gets even more desperate – now you can’t even compose your own posts! The English language getting a little difficult for you? ;o)

            Mind you, that is what you do when you are angry, smashing the keyboard, screaming in rage at the monitor, wondering where your whole life went wrong….

            Yes, your frustration and fear are easy to see – you show it each time you post.

            And at the root of it all is the realisation that you are a failure. You support Putin, who has a perverted desire for little boys, and Russia, the failed state.

          1. Avatar Styx says:

            FYI Eddy: During the march south, the first division of the ROA came to the help of the Czech insurgents to support the Prague uprising which started on May 5, 1945, against the German occupation. Vlasov was initially reluctant, but ultimately did not resist General Bunyachenko’s decision to fight against the Germans.

          2. Avatar Brent says:

            FYI “Ian Rutherford”, the Russians you admire so much and claim won World War II were Hitler’s allies at the outset of the war when they both decided to carve up Poland between them.

            You trolls always seem to forget about that when trying to claim Russia won WWII….

          3. Avatar Styx says:

            A bit rich, not to mention crude, coming from a professional troll like yourself but have a nice day anyway.
            After all, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how baseless or ignorant it might be.

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            LOL Styx aka George Evans aka Andrew Chile complaining about professional trolls- very funny!

          5. Avatar Styx says:

            Your brain is gone completely, sick little boy.
            Take it easy on that moonshine.

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            we are like farmers, Styx…throwing a few crumbs to the chickens, eh…

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            Talking to yourself again Georgie?

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            here chook chook

          9. Avatar Alex George says:

            And… still talking to yourself.

            You just can’t cope, can you? Your dear Fuehrer Putin is failing at everything he does. His foreign adventures are failing, his military is not up to the job, and the Russian economy is falling apart.

            You know what comes next, don’t you. Russia breaks up.

          10. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 20

          11. Avatar Alex George says:

            Now, now, Georgie, you have to admit it is funny when you of all people complain about professional trolls!

          12. Avatar Styx says:

            Yes Georgie boy, you are admitting it is funny when you of all people complain about professional trolls.

          13. Avatar Alex George says:

            Yes Georgie boy, you are admitting that it is hilarious when you of all people complain about professional trolls. ;o)

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 55

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 54

          16. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO Georgie the moron didn’t even realise who he was responding to!

          17. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 19

          18. Avatar Alex George says:

            Now, now Georgie, we all know you are Styx aka George Evans aka Andrew Chmile aka Che Guevara. No need to be embarrassed.

            And you know that Brent’s original point is correct – Stalin was Hitler’s ally before WWII and helped him prepare his armies for the conquest of Europe. Just as millions of Russians today admire Stalin and Hitler.

          19. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 53

          20. Avatar George Evans says:

            the Russian bought time when the West bribed Hitler to take the Russians on…Read the books….Russia won !!!

          21. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The west didn’t bribe hitler.
            Stalin bribed hitler and helped himself prepare his armies

          22. Avatar George Evans says:

            the West surely did..and bought themselves the time to sit there and watch the Russian and Germans slug it out…
            pretty smart . really,…but don,t then try to claim they won the war…

          23. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The west surely didn’t.
            Stalin bribed hitler and helped him prepare his armies
            Stalin also allied with hitler and divided up Europe with him
            THE west helped the ussr when hitler attacked it
            Ussr wouldnt have survived 1942 without western help

          24. Avatar George Evans says:

            stop repeating yourself and pay the pensions and the $3 billion…

          25. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO, you think an Australian is a Ukrainian, you utter moron.

          26. Avatar George Evans says:

            what are you babbling about…???

          27. Avatar Alex George says:

            You really have no idea, do you .

            Start reading posts my friend.

          28. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 18

          29. Avatar MichaelA says:

            I am not reoeating myself
            You are
            stalin bribed hitler to become his ally

          30. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 49

          31. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            You are the one repeating yourself
            Stalin bribed hitler to become his ally

          32. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 17

          33. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

            What books?

          34. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah they must pay the Pensions…

          35. Avatar Alex George says:

            Correct – the Kremlin must pay the pensions it is withholding from the Russian people.

          36. Avatar George Evans says:

            and the Kiev Nazis must pay the Pensions and make reparations..

          37. Avatar Alex George says:

            There are hardly any nazzis in Kyiv and they don’t pay pensions.

            But the Kremlin must pay the pensions it is withholding from the Russian people.

            Most Russians live in povert and they desperately need the money

          38. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 51

          39. Avatar Alex George says:

            The Russians bought no time. You are so uneducated you do not even know that the USSR existed.

          40. Avatar George Evans says:

            you have finally cracked , eh…little boy..

          41. Avatar Alex George says:

            Yes you have, little Georgie. So uneducated you don’t even know about the USSR.

            Look it up. ;o)

          42. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 50

          43. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So you agree that millions of Russians fought with nazi germany.
            You are such an ignorant moron

          44. Avatar George Evans says:

            and you are a silly lapdog…micky…

          45. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So you also agree that millions of Russians fought with nazi Germany
            Thanks moron

          46. Avatar George Evans says:

            they fought against the Nazis, remember ???

          47. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Some did
            Millions fought for the nazis
            Remember??

          48. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 59

          49. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            Millions of Russians fought for the nazzis

          50. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 19

          51. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Yes but you agree that millions of Russians fought for hitler

          52. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 58

          53. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            You agree that millions of Russians fought for hitler

          54. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 18

          55. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            You agree that millions of Russians fought for hitler

          56. Avatar Styx says:

            Ukrainian Auxilliary Police is in your genes.

          57. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So you agree millions of Russians fought for nazi germany

          58. Avatar Styx says:

            Yes, you do agree that you are a mentally deranged descendant of a ukrainian nazi.

          59. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Obviously the Savushkina trolls haven’t heard of the Hiwis, the ROA, the Lokot Autonomy, the Cossack volunteers under von Pannwitz, the Pskov journalist collective etc etc, or if they have they choose to ignore the evidence that Russians fought for and collaborated with Adolf on a massive scale. But no, in their warped minds it’s ONLY the Ukrainians that did.

            Even the USSR publicly acknowledged that not only Ukrainians collaborated with Adolf- witness the 1985 Soviet film “Idi i smotri” which shows Belarusian auxiliaries actively collaborating with Germans in their Bandenbekämpfung.

          60. Avatar George Evans says:

            strange wow in your fevered imagination people waver between being Russians or Ukrainians and then back to Russians…
            Ukrainians are a made up race,,,they do not exist except on Nuland,s maps…
            btw has Nuland been indicted for war crimes yet ???

          61. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, Georgie, stop playing dumb. As at least three people have reminded you on this thread, millions of Russians fought wiht hte German Nazzis, not against them.

            Deflect or run away as much as you like, but it doesn’t change the truth.

            And of course today, tens of millions of Russians support Hitler.

          62. Avatar George Evans says:

            you wish…give up while you can…

          63. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, its true Georgie. Millions of Russians fought with the German Nazzis, not against them.

            And of course today, tens of millions of Russians support Hitler.

          64. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 56

          65. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Good one eddy

            I bet Styx didn’t even know about that

      3. Avatar George Evans says:

        are you talking about the US.???

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          Why would he be talking about the US?

          The USSR was led by Stalin in the Kremlin, who was an arch-fascist. He did a deal with Hitler, to divide Europe between them, and to help build up Hitler’s forces. So two fascist States co-operated.

          1. Avatar George Evans says:

            just a reflection of the behavior patterns,.,,he must have meant the US…

          2. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            It’s news to me and no doubt to others that Roosevelt (not Stalin) and Adolf agreed to carve up Poland in August 1939, that Roosevelt (not Stalin) sent his troops against Finland in 1939-40, that Roosevelt (not Stalin) annexed Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and deported or murdered thousands from each country after doing the same in Poland previously, that Roosevelt (not Stalin) forced Rumania to hand over Bessarabia in 1940. I wonder what you Savushkina trolls have been smoking and drinking to spout such drivel.

            Must be the result of being lobotomised and castrated (job requirements for Savushkina trolls), quaffing the dwarf’s rotgut samogon and Krokodil addiction. Of course, not being a Bright Spark to begin with and going through what passes for an “education system” in Dwafstan don’t help.

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            no surprise it is news to you, know nothing…
            Roosevelt was too bust trying to embroil the planet in war in order to overcome the Great Depression///

            it seems that the Yanks are at it again…this time to overcome the GFC,,,,
            I would not expect you to realize that Dagbum…

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO Once again we see the low level of education in the Russian school system, which is truly third world.

            You clearly do not know hte first thing about Roosevelt, which is fair enough because you also know virtually nothing about the history of the USSR

            Stalin was the main cause of WWII, through his deal with Hitler. He became Hitler’s ally so they could divide up Europe between them.

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            who feeds you this rubbish ????

          6. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            I suggest you and your fellow Savushkina trolls start reading Viktor Suvorov’s books, start with “Icebreaker”. Suvorov is Russian so you can’t accuse him of being anti-Russian.
            You’ll discover that Stalin started WW2 with his pact with Adolf, conform Leninist theory.

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 46

          8. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Hey Dagwood you got him
            George has given up trying to argue
            He knows there is nothing he can say after you and Alex and Brent shot down all his arguments
            Well done

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 16

          10. Avatar Alex George says:

            Very clever MA. ;o)

          11. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 17

          12. Avatar Alex George says:

            History books. One day you may learn what they are.

          13. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 48

          14. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Good one Dagwood
            Shows what ignorant idiots these Russians are
            They don’t even know their own history

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            you know nothing, dummy…

          16. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Learn about history before writing such rubbish

          17. Avatar George Evans says:

            ???

          18. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Oh sorry I should have explained: H-I-S-T-O-R-Y means the study of past events
            You can take it as a subject at school, but only if you make it past sixth grade

          19. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 45

          20. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            History means the study of past events
            Unless you get past sixth grade at school you can’t study it

          21. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 15

          22. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO

          23. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 16

          24. Avatar Alex George says:

            So why would he be talking about the US. The behaviour patterns mean that he could not have been talking about the US.

            The USSR was led by Stalin in the Kremlin, who was an arch-fascist. He did a deal with Hitler, to divide Europe between them, and to help build up Hitler’s forces. So two fascist States co-operated.

          25. Avatar George Evans says:

            the Uke Naziz were one of the main parties to collaborate with Hitler…that is why so many had to flee to Canada and the US after the war…

          26. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course some did, just as did millions of Russians.

            Millions of Russians not only helped the Nazzis but fought alongside them. Just as tens of millions of Russian admire Hitler today.

          27. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 48..

    2. Avatar George Evans says:

      all the decent people of the Ukraine believe it since they are living with them…and only just surviving…for now…

      1. Avatar MichaelA says:

        It is obvious you have not been to Ukraine

        1. Avatar George Evans says:

          how do you know ??? it would be the only thing you do know if it were true,,,

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            Geez, I wonder… Perhaps because you don’t appear to have the faintest idea what is happening there?

            I was going to reply to your post above but this will do: Anyone who says that the people of Ukraine are “only just surviving” doesn’t have a clue. Yes, there are hard times there – Russia’s aggression against Ukraine has done terrible damage to the economy. Yet despite that, the Ukrainian economy is recovering and growing. By contrast, Russia’s is moving in the opposite direction.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            you must be getting tired now…still just repeating arrant nonsense…the Ukraine is now a failed State..before Nukland,s $5 billion coup it was not doing too badly…it,s finished now just living bu begging from the EU, IMF and getting nothing from the US,,,but they are all fed up abd it won,t go on for much longer,,,

          3. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You have obviously never been to Ukraine

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            repetition again…

          5. Avatar Alex George says:

            Yes, by you.

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            zzzzh…

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            ;o)

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 64

          9. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So what. Because it’s true

          10. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 63

          11. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            It is obvious you have never been to Ukraine
            You cannot show a single post by which shows any personal knowledge of Ukraine

          12. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 21

          13. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – Ukraine a failed state? That describes Russia, which is slowly collapsing and breaking apart.

            Ukraine has survived all the aggression that Russia could throw at it, all the attempts by the Kremlin forces to kill as many Ukrainians as you can. You Russian fascists hate Ukraine and have done your best to destroy her, but you have failed. And now Ukraine is improving while Russia falls apart. As it deserves.

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 65

          15. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Because you don’t know about it

          16. Avatar George Evans says:

            still more repetitive nonsense…

          17. Avatar Alex George says:

            Here is some repetition for you, and worth repeating because it is true:

            Ukraine has survived all the aggression that Russia could throw at it, all the attempts by the Kremlin forces to kill as many Ukrainians as you can. You Russian fascists hate Ukraine and have done your best to destroy her, but you have failed. And now Ukraine is improving while Russia falls apart. As it deserves.

          18. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 62

          19. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Because it’s true

          20. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 61

          21. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            All your comments show that you have never been to Ukraine
            You don’t know a thing about it

          22. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 20

      2. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

        They are surviving rather well, but to know that you must have been to Ukraine recently… A recent example : https://www.facebook.com/910000172427218/videos/1375890272504870/

        1. Avatar George Evans says:

          more Nazis eh…

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            Correct – in Russia.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            the photo was taken in Kiev, dummy…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            Where there aren’t nazzis, but there are in Russia.

            Dummy.

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 60

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 21

  2. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

    Shows the emptyness and criminality of the current cabal in the kremlin when they have to revert to 70-year old Stalinist propaganda in a lame attempt to retain power. 😀 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1dd46bf90285e887cfc61ce184f34fa536aea153cb3c3a47680a4d16eb356cdf.jpg

    1. Avatar George Evans says:

      the USA seem to be reverting to the Cold War….smirk dith

      1. Avatar MichaelA says:

        Putin’s is trying to start a Cold War
        But Russia isn’t good enough

        1. Avatar George Evans says:

          the real question is…are the Yanks good enough ??? the Empire is crumbing chum…

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            Correct, the Russian “empire” is indeed crumbling, chum…

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            stop babbling nonsense, idiot…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            What is your problem now? You know full well that the Russian empire is crumbling, so don’t try to pretend.

            Russia’s economy is collapsing, her armies are weak, and she is starting to break apart.

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            this is like a game of tennis…just as boring…

          5. Avatar Alex George says:

            No it isn’t, because you have given up. You admit that you can no longer counter our points.

            You do not deny that the Russian empire is crumbling, that Russia’s economy is collapsing, her armies are weak, and she is starting to break apart.

          6. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Russia isn’t able to compete with Iran or turkey
            Let alone USA

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            boring 2

          8. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth. Russia isn’t able to compete with Iran or China, let alone the USA

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 28

          10. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

          11. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 50

          12. Avatar MichaelA says:

            The yanks are more than good enough
            So are all their allies
            Russia isn’t

          13. Avatar George Evans says:

            boring !

          14. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s actually very interesting
            We are all watching how your and your fellow putin trolls have given up arguing
            Because every time you present an argument it is shot down in flames

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 27

          16. Avatar Styx says:

            Being a self-congratulatory poltroon comes naturally to you, Misha.

            Shooting yourself “down in flames” is what you do.

            Here is an excellent forecast of how you are most likely to end up, produced by one of my very dear friends:

          17. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO So now the silly old man Styx/George Evans wants to big note himself by claiming he has friends who produce vids.

            Are you really that desperate to big-note yourself!? Calm down, drink some tea with lots of milk in it, and have a nap. ;o)

          18. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 40

          19. Avatar MichaelA says:

            IF I had really shot myself down in flames you wouldn’t be so worried.

          20. Avatar Styx says:

            Small insects like you never worry me.

            (four)
            be off, persistent troll.

          21. Avatar MichaelA says:

            But you are worried or you wouldn’t keep posting

          22. Avatar Styx says:

            “But you are worried or you wouldn’t keep posting” indeed.

            (seven)
            Be off, persistent troll

          23. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney51

          24. Avatar MichaelA says:

            That is your fault
            Not ours
            We tell the truth and you cannot deny it

          25. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 26

          26. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No the truth

          27. Avatar George Evans says:

            pox ridden mick

        2. Avatar George Evans says:

          diseased mick

    2. Avatar Styx says:

      It sure does show the emptiness and criminality of the current cabal in Kyiv desperately trying to cling to power in full knowledge that its popularity in Ukraine, not to mention the rest of The World, is fast approaching ZERO ..

      1. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

        You know the mongol troll has lost when they resort to repeating things over and over or throw in the ‘whataboutisms.’. Predictable dishwashers. :D.

        1. Avatar Styx says:

          Your personal request as per dishwashing is being processed.
          Thank you for your IP.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fba45853b5514fe7004ecfa80ca32cfeee655ae95be529bf6874c9ae5599c4f7.jpg

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            LOL Oh please Styx – you have no idea how to handle weapons. You aren’t even fit for conscription.

            Now don’t waste our time posting pictures that you don’t understand, you pathetic old man. ;o)

          2. Avatar Styx says:

            Congratulations. You are now fully processed.

          3. Avatar Styx says:

            That’s optionrider.
            Yes, I am aware that he passed away.

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO Off you go, you frightened little man.

            Run, rabbit, run.

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 41

          6. Avatar MichaelA says:

            He was killed by the FSB
            like most of them
            PUTIN kills the separatist commanders because he wants no witnesses

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 52

          8. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, yet more meaningless words from the old man.

            Now go have a glass of warm milk and lie down.

          9. Avatar Styx says:

            You can’t help being an idiot, can you ..

            How often do your parents beat you up for being so obnoxious ?

          10. Avatar Alex George says:

            Now now, no need to get angry, you poor pathetic old man.

            You just can’t cope with the fact that the Maidan was a popular uprising.

            You also can’t cope with the fact that Ukraine has had three elections since the Maidan and the pro-Kremlin parties were decimated. They hardly exist in Ukraine anymore, because the Ukrainian people rejected them. ;o)

          11. Avatar Styx says:

            Yes, I know you believe your shabbily constructed lies with passion, sickly little nazi sod.

          12. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except they aren’t lies at all, are they? They are amply backed up with incontrovertible evidence.

            The Maidan was a popular uprising, and Ukraine has had three elections since the Maidan in which the pro-Kremlin parties were decimated. They hardly exist in Ukraine anymore, because the Ukrainian people rejected them.

          13. Avatar Styx says:

            be off, sick little troll.

          14. Avatar Alex George says:

            Why should I “be off”, dear little Styx aka George Evans aka Andrew Chmile aka Che Guevara?

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 42

          16. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Actually, weapons are most probably the only things he DOES understand.

        2. Avatar George Evans says:

          but they are on the way out, dick smirk…once they have stolen all the money, what is left to kill for..???

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except they are not on the way out, are they?

            Ukraine has a popularly elected government . Unfortunately many officials and representatives are still Kremlin sympathisers, yearning for the easy pickings that come from Soviet corruption. But they are gradually being weeded out.

            And Ukraine itself is growing in prosperity, while Russia spirals downwards.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 43

      2. Avatar MichaelA says:

        If they are that unpopular why did they do so well in three elections after Maidan?
        And the yanukovych parties lost most of their seats

        1. Avatar Styx says:

          You know perfectly well why.

        2. Avatar George Evans says:

          crappy mick

  3. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

    RuSSia must be starved of foreign capital until it is broke.

  4. Avatar Terry Washington says:

    Given that without “Lend Lease” aid( NEVER repaid or even acknowledged nowadays) from both Britain and America, the Red Army could never have prevailed in WWII( as even Khrushchev admitted in his memoirs), this argument is as Americans put it, somewhat rich to say the least!

    1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

      Precisely, with the little subtlety that “never been repaid or even acknowledged nowadays” is related, not to all peoples of the ex-USSR, but to certain ungrateful swine too obvious to name.

      1. Avatar Styx says:

        Absolutely, with the little subtlety(!) that “never been repaid or even acknowledged nowadays” is confabulated, “not to all peoples of the ex-USSR, but to certain ungrateful” oknemfrod “too obvious to name” (whatever that gobbledygook could possibly mean) ..

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          What on earth are you going on about now? I remember you – you tried to tell us all that Russia defeated Napoleon, and defeated Hitler, and you got angry when we pointed out that Russia didn’t.

          Poor old Russia – the former superpower trying to tell itself that it is as powerful as the USSR or the former Russian empire, when its really just another third world country with a tanking economy.

          1. Avatar Styx says:

            Poor old Alex, his brain is leaking out of his ears again ..

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except you cannot identify a single one of these “lies”, can you? ;o)

            You cannot cope with the truth – which is that Russia didn’t defeat Napoleon or Hitler. and it is just a another third world country with a tanking economy, trying to pretend it is still a superpower.

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            nice music ” the 1812 overture “……

          4. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Nothing like that composed today

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            they still [produce stirring music..not like the Uke Nazis…

          6. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No they don’t
            No good composers or writers in Russia for decades
            Not under putin
            All the talented people fled to Ukraine or the west

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 76

          8. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Okay
            show me one russian composer or author under putin who has any following or credibility outside of russia
            or even in russia

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 22

        2. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

          Funny! You must have killed his cat or something! :)))

          —————

          Styx

          Oknemfrod

          14 hours ago

          Absolutely, “with the little subtlety(!) that never been repaid or
          even acknowledged nowadays” (whatever that truly idiotic gobbledygook
          could possibly mean) is confabulated, “not to all peoples of the
          ex-USSR, but to certain ungrateful” oknemfrod “too obvious to name” ..

          1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Nah … he wouldn’t care if I did that (plus I never would, as more often than not I like these graceful creates much better than their owners). But I recall ripping his “bona fide Brit” troll cover off him (back when he went by “Ian Rutherford”) based on his Unglish and hitting him pretty hard on the snout a few times verbally, and it must have bruised his overly sensitive ego – which is worse for him than if all felines became extincting species.

          2. Avatar Styx says:

            “But I recall ripping his “bona fide Brit” troll cover off him (back when he went by “Ian Rutherford”) based on his Unglish and hitting him pretty hard on the snout a few times verbally, and it must have bruised his overly sensitive ego – which is worse for him than if all felines became extincting species.”

            You lying again under influence, petulant frau Dorfmenko. But then again – that is what you do for a living. So I sincerely commiserate with you.

            Hitting you on the snout repeatedly might help you to recover your senses. Sadly, I am unwilling to help you.

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            Hi Andrew, writing as Styx aka George Evans again?

            You haven’t done anything against Oknemfrod, so be a good boy and go cry in the corner.

          4. Avatar Styx says:

            Talking to yourself about your sneaky little habits again, sick little boy.

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 77

          6. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            Rather like I do with the Ruski **MOLES** of late? 🙂

            * I * — unlike you dear Paulie, do NOT — EVER! — Commit the error (“sin” actually!) of discussing with THEM, like I would with a human being.

            I find them morally & ethically TOTALLY REPULSIVE!

            “They” (the *MOLES*) attempt to engage you in normal discussion.
            A week or so ago, MOLE “Alex George” attempted a “normal discussion” with me.

            I “told” him not to try & suk my dik!

            It goes without saying you understand the point here.

            “Alex George” — with me at least — “first came out” when i was exposing the BS Disqus MOLE sites. “THERE” he felt it important to cover for such. So I am a “Putin troll & Russian” 🙂

            He “came out” again — on another MOST IMPORTANT subject”
            Ukie language. (OF COURSE THAT!!! 🙂
            Fooled a couple Ukes. 🙁

            An @sshole article anyway — but enough BS for the MOLES to *use* it –making certain “@ss-ump-tions” of course…

            The drama of oligarchic dictatorship and nationalist revanche in Ukraine
            by MORON Serhiy Dyatsiuk

            http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/05/01/nationalist-revanchism-or-oligarchic-dictatorship/#

            SUKED THEM IN …. 🙁

            Anyway … I have indeed noted you don’t post on “Ukraine Today USA” — — NOW VIOLATING COPY RIGHT LAWS — in true Ruski scumbag fashion! & CALLING ITSELF “UKRAINE TODAY” :)) [[[I’ll do something about that LATER!!! :]]]

            They are FAR more careful about posting Ruski BS — “for balance” as “focusser1” called such…. For as we all know, every Truth must be in “balance” with a fookin’ BS Ruski LIE! — Right? 🙂

            Their site only PLAGIARIZES sh*t anyway… But I can READ IT — **WITHOUT** being “subscribed” to such.

            Anyway — MOLE “Alex George” — & Uki language.
            As you are somewhat familiar with Ukie language issues 😉
            I should be interested in your view of the “Alex George” take on such … Made a few other posts on on that article — & probably make some mo’.

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            What on earth are you going on about now Andrew? You are a Putin troll and everyone knows it.

            You have been thrown out of many pro-Ukrainian blogs once people realised your real game.

            Ans you are stil obsessed with UA Today USA. Too bad my friend – most people on EP also post there, but not you.

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 78

        3. Avatar Alex George says:

          Is this supposed to be English?

      2. Avatar George Evans says:

        maybe you are talking about the Ukrainians who,,,with the connivance of the US and the IMF,,are refusing to pay their debts,,they won,tt even pay the pensions they owe to half their people…a bad lot..

        1. Avatar MichaelA says:

          Ukraine pays its debts
          RUssia doesn’t because it is poor and untrustworthy
          Russia doesn’t pay pensions to the people in the Donbas.

          1. Avatar George Evans says:

            what about the $3 billion ?..and the pensions ?,,,

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            What $3 Billion? Ukraine owes nothing.

            But you are right to ask about Russian pensions, since they often aren’t paid, and prices are rising in Russia.

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            half the Ukraine pensions are not being paid…but they will be with the appropriate adjustment for backpay…that will hurt, eh…

          4. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You have obviously never been to Ukraine
            Try going there and learning something instead of showing your ignorance

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            Crimea is beautiful at the moment,,delightful now it is back home…

          6. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course it is back home – it still belongs to Ukraine .

            By the way, have you seen the latest photos of all the empty resorts there? Russia has destroyed Crimea’s tourist industry, as well as its roads….

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 74

          8. Avatar MichaelA says:

            thanks for admitting that Crimea is Ukrainian
            You have obviously never been anywhere in Ukraine

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 73

          10. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No its the truth
            you have obviously never been to ukraine
            your comment about crimea was a dead giveaway
            the photos are already out of the deserted resorts there

          11. Avatar Alex George says:

            They are all being paid. However Russian pensions are not

          12. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 72

          13. Avatar MichaelA says:

            They aren’t debts so Ukraine doesn’t have to pay them.

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 75

          15. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

        2. Avatar Alex George says:

          I certainly hope Ukraine does not pay anything to Russia since it doesn’t owe anything to Russia. Whereas Russia owes Ukraine billions as reparations for its illegal aggression against the people of Ukraine.

          The one good thing is that Russia’s aggression taught the people of Ukraine that they do not want to have anything more to do with Russia. They are breaking all cultural and trade ties with Putin’s sick regime.

          1. Avatar George Evans says:

            they owe $3 billion which they WILL pay…or somebody else will pay since the Poroshenko mob have stolen all the money…

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, they won’t because they owe nothing. They can pay of course – the Ukrainian economy is on the rise, despite Russia’s intensive and unprovoked aggression against Ukraine. But they won’t.

            Russia WILL pay the billions it owes Ukraine, if it can. Unfortunately its basked case economy may mean that it can no longer do so. The Reserve Fund is virtually gone, and the Pension Fund will be gone within a year.

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            they WILL pay….the only problem being the Nazis and their ISIS supporters will have melted away again..heading to Canada and the US,,,

          4. Avatar MichaelA says:

            They won’t pay but russia will

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            they WILL pay..Merkel is there now settling the bill…

          6. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO what a moron you are, little Georgie. Have you read the reports about what Merkel really said to Putin?

            You poor deluded fool.

          7. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 69

          8. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No she isn’t
            And they won’t pay but Russia will

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 68

          10. Avatar Alex George says:

            No, they won’t pay because they owe nothing. They are quite capable of paying – the Ukrainian economy is on the rise, despite Russia’s intensive and unprovoked aggression against Ukraine. But they won’t be paying.

            On the other hand, Russia WILL pay the billions it owes Ukraine, if it can. Unfortunately its basket-case economy may mean that it can no longer do so. The Reserve Fund is virtually gone, and the Pension Fund will be gone within a year.

          11. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 67

          12. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            If the dwarf wants the money he should go to Proffessor Viktor- HE signed for it so HE is responsible. PV has stolen more than enough from the Ukrainian people during his dictatorship so he can easily pay the 3 billion.

          13. Avatar George Evans says:

            he borrowed it as the lega,. legitimate head of a sovereign Government…
            anything Poroshenko signs is not worth as dime….dagbum…

          14. Avatar MichaelA says:

            He is not legitimate
            He is wanted for murder and ukraine owes nothing to a fascist state like Russia

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            ask Merkel…she is in Sochi trying to get out from under…

          16. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO Ask Merkel indeed!

            Read the reports about what she actually said to Putin, you poor deluded fool….

          17. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 71

          18. Avatar MichaelA says:

            he is right
            merkel told putin that he had to restore ukraines borders
            she said nothing about ukraine having to pay russia anything
            just read the news

          19. Avatar MichaelA says:

            I am sure she will say the same thing
            Putin is wanted for murder

          20. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 70

          21. Avatar NATOcracy says:

            Heh. Ukraine owes more than $30 billion for gas only.

          22. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – you do not know anything about Ukraine. It owes nothing to Russia.

            However, Russia owes billions in reparations for its unprovoked aggression against the people of Ukraine

          23. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 66

    2. Avatar George Evans says:

      the Lend Lease was really welcome..but not vital…
      and it was granted ( not loaned ) because the US and UK realized they had to make sure Russia stayed in the game …otherwise it would have been curtains for them…

      1. Avatar Alex George says:

        There would have been no point loaning to the USSR – it was entirely incapable of repaying a loan (much as Russia was in 1998 when it defaulted and had to be bailed out by the EU).

        And no, nobody kept Russia in the game. They kept the USSR in the game – that means Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan and many other nations. Without a great deal of help from the west, USSR had no chance of defeating Nazi Germany. Nor would it have even tried (Nazi Germany being the USSR’s ally) if Germany hadn’t attacked it first.

        1. Avatar George Evans says:

          nonsense…

          1. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No, truth

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO Georgie can do nothing except repetition. Get an education next time Georgie boy, you might even be able to assemble an argument….

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 86

          5. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 85

          7. Avatar MichaelA says:

            sorry but what he wrote is the truth
            russia has no chance of walking into kyiv
            ask the 3000+ russian boys who have already died in donbass
            or the thousands who came home permanently injured

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 26

          9. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

        2. Avatar George Evans says:

          a bit like the Ukraine now…they should pay their debts..but only after they have met their pension obligations to ALL Ukrainians…

          1. Avatar Eddy Verhaeghe says:

            George, your grasp of international law is apparently fairly limited. If you invade a country, you are responsible for the welfare of its inhabitants… I rest my case.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            so what are the responsibilities of the USA and their NATO mercenaries in Syria, Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan ???
            not too much welfare for the inhabitants there…
            would Nuland,s efforts in the Ukraine infer an obligation on the US and NATO to provide welfare ???
            the Russian had they chosen to invade would have walked into Kiev and restored peace…
            every effort has been to minimize suffering for ordinary people…and Nuland is back in the land of the brave collecting her pension…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO, so you have no idea what aid the US and other western nations give to other countries? typical uneducated ignorance from third world Russians.

            And no, Russia never had any chance of walking into Kyiv. You tried and you failed. Next time get a better army, one that is prepared to fight.

          4. Avatar MichaelA says:

            usa didnt invade them
            and it didnt steal land
            so it doesnt owe anything
            russia has stolen land in crimea and donbass
            it has to pay for the people there and hand the land back also

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            rubbish 25

          6. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Listen to eddy
            HE knows what he is talking about

          7. Avatar Styx says:

            You never had a case to start with, Eddy.

            It really is that simple.

          8. Avatar Alex George says:

            They do pay all their debts, unlike Russia which is headed for bankruptcy

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 83

          10. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 84

      2. Avatar Brent says:

        “Russia stayed in the game”…..you mean the WWII “game” in which Russia was initially allied with Hitler’s Germany?

        1. Avatar George Evans says:

          and in which Hitler was aided by the West ???

          1. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No he wasn’t
            He was aided by Stalin and the USSR
            HItler could never have conquered Europe without soviet help

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            you must pay the pensions..including back pay…

          3. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            WHICH pensions? Those of the so-called LNR and DNR? Go to Pedo Putolini- they are his responsibility now.

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            the built Ukraine for a lifetime..now their pensions must be paid…btw in the absence of pensions , just who do tyou think is supporting them…vicky Nuland ???

          5. Avatar Alex George says:

            All Ukrainian pensions that are owed are paid. Unlike Russia which continually fails to pay what it owes.

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 88

          7. Avatar MichaelA says:

            I don’t have to pay anything
            Neither does Ukraine

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 87

          9. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth. I don’t have to pay anything. Neither does Ukraine

          10. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 28

          11. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth
            I don’t have to have to pay anything
            NEither does ukraine

    3. Avatar NATOcracy says:

      First, Lend Lease aid was paid in gold, the dispute occurred about the goods that were never delivered, the Soviets didn’t wan’t to pay for that.
      Second, the first substantial help came in late 1943 and vast majority of goods, some 75% was delivered in 1944 and 1945.
      Here you have all the official data and documents about that:
      http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/documents/index.htm

      And third all the goods that were delivered were around 4% of the total USSR output during the war. Although some materials were very important like high octane aviation fuel and steel.

      1. Avatar George Evans says:

        you must stop confusing them with TRUTH and FACTS,,,
        a bit low, really…

        1. Avatar MichaelA says:

          Why when you never give any facts?

          1. Avatar George Evans says:

            never cast pearls beneath the feet of swine.., mick..

          2. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No we give you facts all the time
            You don’t give facts because you can’t

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 79

          4. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth

      2. Avatar MichaelA says:

        Half of USSR’s tanks in 1942 were western
        USSR didn’t pay for them
        USSR wouldn’t have survived without western aid

        1. Avatar NATOcracy says:

          From the onset of the war until the end of 1941, the Red Army received 1.76 million rifles, automatic weapons, and machine guns, 53,700 artillery and mortars, 5,400 tanks, and 8,200 warplanes. Of these, the Allies supplied only 82 artillery weapons (0.15%), 648 tanks (12.14%), and 915 airplanes (10.26%). In addition, much of the military equipment that was sent – in particular, 115 of the 466 tanks manufactured in the UK – did not even make it to the front in the first year of the war.

          In 1942 the shipments were stopped for almost half of the year. Between 1941 and 1942 only 7% of the wartime cargo shipped from the US made it to the Soviet Union. The bulk of the weapons and other materials arrived in the Soviet Union in 1944-1945, once the winds of war had decisively shifted.

          1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Hmmmm…. between July and December 1941 the UK shipped nearly 500 Hawker Hurricanes to the USSR, at a time when British forces the Middle East were desperately short of aircraft, not to mention Malaya and Singapore. The UK also released over 200 Curtiss P-40 Tomahawks at the same time for shipment to the USSR instead of to its own forces. It can be argued that sending them to the USSR instead of to the Middle East and especially Malaya/Singapore resulted in the loss of Malaya and Singapore to Dai-Nippon.
            Of the 9,000 or so P-39s produced by Bell over half were shipped to the USSR- some 4,700. The US sent a similar number of Curtiss P-40s; these two types alone amount to almost 10,000 fighters. Add up all the other aircraft types shipped to the USSR- Hurricanes, Spitfires, A-20s, B-25s etc etc and one gets a pretty impressive total.
            Ditto for tanks- the UK sent hundreds of Valentines to the USSR between July and December 1941, again when the Western Desert and Malaya/Singapore needed them badly; indeed, there was NOT ONE tank in Malaya when the Japanese attacked, nor were any shipped afterwards.

          2. Avatar George Evans says:

            yeah they would do ANYTHING to ensure the USSR stayed in the war….they were the only ones doing the real fighting…

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ah, so you finally admit it wasn’t Russia but the USSR. That took you long enough.

            You clearly have no idea about the history of WWII. Learn what other countries were doing before posting such uneducated rubbish.

          4. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 82

          5. Avatar NATOcracy says:

            The Hurricanes, really?
            While being a real workhorse of the Battle of Britain in 1941 the Hurricane was an obsolete aeroplane. A thick wing, poor acceleration, terrible in any vertical maneuvers and burning like a matchbox. They could attack some German bombers if they were not protected and that’s it. Against the new German fighters the Hurricane had no chance, they could only perform a defensive circle ( a usual bomber tactics against the fighters) and pray.

            The Tomahawks were better and the Soviets were immediately removing the unnecessary weapons to lighten them up and were using them at higher power outputs then prescribed by the manufacturer to be able to counter the German machines.
            That shortened up the engine life to some 20-50 hours.

            The same was done with the Aircobra which was refused by the US Army as a fighter aircraft, she was only used as a ground attack plane.

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            more TRUTH…wasted on idiots like dagbum, I,m afraid…

          7. Avatar MichaelA says:

            yes but ussr was desperate to get all of them
            ussr didnt know how to make good aircraft

          8. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 23

          9. Avatar Kapricorn4 says:

            Even the vaunted British Spitfire fighter had difficulty in encounters with the German ME 109. I believe it was policy for the RAF to leave them alone, since they could do only limited damage. The Battle of Britain was won by British fighters shooting down German bombers, that took a heavy toll. Radar installations along the coast were very effective in seeking out and destroying Dorniers and Heinkels.

          10. Avatar NATOcracy says:

            Well, that was depending on a pilot. The German pilots had better training and had more experience during The Battle of Britain. They also had better tactics because the Britons were stubbornly flying in an obsolete Vic formation, the Germans were flying in pairs.
            But the aeroplanes were a pretty close match. Later the Germans introduced the Me 109F that was a bit faster than the Spitfire V but nothing outstanding. The Brits quickly introduced the Spitfire IX. The only shock was when the notorious FW 190 appeared.
            People ussually don’t understand that in the air combat max speed is not the most important, the combat speed is, a speed at which a pilot could perform maneuvers and fight.
            And there the I-16 v Hurricane is a good example. Both were obsolete in 1941 but the I-16 even if bit slower had a higher combat speed and much better acceleration than the Hurricane and the latest models could fight against the Me 109E.
            But not with the Me 109F.

          11. Avatar MichaelA says:

            But you wanted them because they were better than anything you had

          12. Avatar NATOcracy says:

            Who is ‘you’? I’m not Russian.

            And yes the Soviets were glad about every plane they can get but even Stalin himself protested for being given obsolete equipment. There was at least one case when the Brits took the Tomahawks intended for the Soviet union and sent the Hurricanes instead.

          13. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Not so- the Tomahawk was already in service with the RAF in the Western Desert and the RAF was screaming for more. Churchill diverted 200 to Stalin instead of supplying them to his own forces. As I mentioned before, the RAF in the Far East got nothing at all even though it was well under strength even by the meagre forces London had allocated on paper.
            On paper the RAF was supposed to have 336 fighters in the Far East, but had less than half.

          14. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            The Hurricane IIB and IIC were in first-line service with the RAF in the UK, Malta and the Western Desert in 1941 and it was a damn sight more modern than the Polikarpov I-16s Stalin’s VVS used at the same time. Stalin could have rejected them if they were really so bad, ditto for the Curtiss P-40B Tomahawks. The RAF in the Western Desert, Malaya and Singapore would have eagerly accepted them, ditto for the Dutch in the NEI- the Far East got nothing at all. Those 700 fighters would probably have made all the difference when Hirohito attacked on Dec. 8th 1941.

          15. Avatar NATOcracy says:

            Like I have said both aeroplanes were obsolete in 1941. What do you consider as more modern, a cockpit and a much better radio equipment? I would prefer acceleration, a higher combat speed, much better maneuverability and better armament every time.
            Not to mention being a much smaller target.
            And I’ll repeat again the Hurricane was burning like a matchbox. If you ask any pilot that survived that hell of the WWII, they feared most being burned to death.

          16. Avatar Alex George says:

            Thanks for the fake Soviet statistics.

            Without our aid USSR would have collapsed like a house of cards.

          17. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 81

          18. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Half of the red army’s tanks in 1942 were western

          19. Avatar Styx says:

            That’s all it ever does.

          20. Avatar MichaelA says:

            its not BS
            and you cant deny it
            just like your fellow putin trolls
            they have just given up arguing because every time they try they end up looking like fools

          21. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 25

          22. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No it’s the truth.
            Half the red army’s tanks in 1942 were western

          23. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 80

        2. Avatar Styx says:

          All in accordance with what you learned about history at the School of Modern Day Ukrainian Auxilliary Police for severely brain damaged kids. Cheers.

          1. Avatar MichaelA says:

            No just the truth.
            Russians don’t even know their own history

          2. Avatar Styx says:

            You know nothing of history, provocative little sod.

          3. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You don’t know your own history

          4. Avatar Styx says:

            Be off, persistent troll.

          5. Avatar MichaelA says:

            You don’t know your own history

          6. Avatar Styx says:

            (three)
            Be off, persistent troll.

  5. Avatar George Evans says:

    far too many nazis in the world today…the worst of a bad lot living in Kiev…sponsored of course bu the closet nazis in Canada and the USA…
    the Germans hopped on pretty quickly and the Poles always had a predisposition that way..but they will be shown what for when they step over the line…
    it is important for the world to report honestly on these rascals and show them for what they are…ANIMALS ( with apologies to the real animals of the world )..

    1. Avatar Alex George says:

      Yes, yes, nice fantasy, but the article is referring to reality. There are nazis everywhere of course, but the greatest concentration of them is in Russia, where they control the government.

      Putin naturally finds that the neo-nazis in the west are his greatest allies, outside of Russia of course where the oligarchs are his greatest friends. His propaganda machine pumps out a regular diet of lies, but few people in the world are fooled anymore. That is why Russia has such low standing throughout the world.

      “but they will be shown what for when they step over the line”

      Oh grow up, you silly little boy. Russia won’t show anything to anyone, not to the Poles, not to the Germans, nor to anyone else. Russia is a weak nation. It stepped out of line in Syria and Ukraine, and now it is being shown “what for”.

      1. Avatar George Evans says:

        yeah,,I noticed ….
        when the hit hits the fan, Trump will cry for help to the Russians and Chinese…better brace yourself,,,

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          indeed something is going to hit the fan – Russia’s 23 million native-born Muslims are becoming radicalized, due to Putin’s foolish obsession with overseas adventures. He has been neglecting home security, silly man.

          1. Avatar George Evans says:

            the Ukraine is importing all the radicals to stiffen their mercenaries..when the dough dries up..away they go…

          2. Avatar MichaelA says:

            Who are they importing?
            You obviously know nothing about ukraine

          3. Avatar George Evans says:

            clearly you know not a thing…mick…

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            Then why don;t you answer his question instead of running like a frightened rabbit?

            What “imported radicals” are you talking about?

            I know this is very hard for an uneducated Russian, but just try thinking about whether you can come up with a single fact to support your rantings… ;o)

          5. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 98….

          6. Avatar George Evans says:

            to the paymaster of Alex George…you boy just wasted YOUR money on a futile display boring repetitious nonsense,,,almost a century… he need more training and maybe proper discipline…

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            Oh dear, angry and screaming now Georgie?

            Bile and bitterness won’t help you.

          8. Avatar Styx says:

            Uneducated sex toys owned by Porosyonko don’t come more obvious than you.

            All facts without exception are alien to you.

          9. Avatar Alex George says:

            So you can’t answer his question – and you think that your very obvious avoidance will somehow not be noticed.

            You were asked to provide facts (or indeed even a single fact) and you very obviously cannot do so. Or even just to answer the question “What “imported radicals” are you talking about?”.

            Then you wonder why nobody takes you seriously, nor do they take your country seriously. Everything has consequences my friend

          10. Avatar Styx says:

            So, you are willing to pay for your services to Ukrainian nazzis.

            Would it be cash or card ?

          11. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – what an obvious attempt at deflection! If you can’t think of any way to refute someone else’s argument, hey, just write some random words!

            You were asked to provide facts (or indeed even a single fact) and you very obviously cannot do so. Or even just to answer the question “What “imported radicals” are you talking about?”.

            Then you wonder why nobody takes you seriously, nor do they take your country seriously. Everything has consequences my friend

          12. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 31

          13. Avatar MichaelA says:

            So who are they importing?
            Show you know something

      2. Avatar Styx says:

        Yes, “silly little boy”, your moonshine fueled “propaganda machine” led by salo guzzling frau dorfmenko and financed by murderous hogsident porosyonko “pumps out a regular diet” of blatant lies, persistent flies and sordid pedofiles but very few people in the world are fooled by you lot. And that is exactly your days are numbered. End of.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          Hi George, switching accounts again, I see. ;o)

          And I also see that you do not dare attempt to argue against a single thing I wrote in my previous post. Read it again, and enjoy…

          1. Avatar Styx says:

            Hi, sordid zorbatheturk.

            As you know perfectly well, I would never lower myself to arguing with a sick little parasite like you.

            Guillotine is the only solution to your mental health problems.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course you attempt to argue with me, Georgie Boy. But you don’t dare, because you know you lose, every time.

            There are nazis everywhere of course, but the greatest concentration of them is in Russia, where they control the government.

            Putin naturally finds that the neo-nazis in the west are his greatest allies, outside of Russia of course where the oligarchs are his greatest friends. His propaganda machine pumps out a regular diet of lies, but few people in the world are fooled anymore. That is why Russia has such low standing throughout the world.

            Russia won’t show anything to anyone, not to the Poles, not to the Germans, nor to anyone else. Russia is a weak nation.

          3. Avatar Styx says:

            Have you said something, sick little turd ?

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – glad you enjoyed it, Georgie.

          5. Avatar Styx says:

            glad you are choking, sick little Georgie boy.

          6. Avatar Alex George says:

            Only from laughter, Georgie boy. Good to see you admit that you are just George Evans using another account by the way.

            Now, try to think of something different to say next time – we are waiting for you. ;o)

          7. Avatar Styx says:

            keep choking, sick little boy.

          8. Avatar Alex George says:

            Just as I predicted!

            Indeed I will keep choking with laughter – thank you for the suggestion.

          9. Avatar George Evans says:

            baloney 30

          10. Avatar Styx says:

            You are projecting your disgusting ways and habits once again, sick little boy.

          11. Avatar Alex George says:

            :o)

          12. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 97

          13. Avatar Alex George says:

            And you still can’t deny that Putin is losing the foolish war he started against Ukraine!

          14. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 96

          15. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 95

          16. Avatar George Evans says:

            nonsense 94

          17. Avatar Styx says:

            I never lost anything to a brainless idiot like you.

          18. Avatar Alex George says:

            So why do you waste it? The answer is obvious – you know you have lost, repeatedly. And like a fool you keep coming back to lose again.

          19. Avatar Alex George says:

            But you do attempt to argue with me, all the time. So you aren’t being honest, are you.

            I agree that you usually run away, because you know you just aren’t good enough.

            You are also embarrassed and ashamed, because you have supported the fascist Putin, who is now turning out to be an incompetent leader. He is losing the foolish war that he started with Ukraine.

          20. Avatar Styx says:

            Even more idiotic nonsense from you.

          21. Avatar Alex George says:

            Except it is true and you know it.

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