Russians living near Europe radically different from Russians in the interior, Mironova says

Houses in Rauma, Finland (Image: Wikipedia)

Houses in Rauma, Finland (Image: Wikipedia) 

Analysis & Opinion, Russia

It is an ancient observation that people who live in port cities or in portions of a country bordering others are often very different than those who live in the interior of the country, often simultaneously more aware of their own identity but also profoundly affected by the culture and style of those they come into contact with.

But this pattern is seldom discussed by Russians not only because until recently few of them lived in places where they could actually cross the borders and thus be affected by others and because many are clearly reluctant to point to yet another way in which Russian identity, supposedly so strong in the Kremlin’s telling, is actually weak and fissiparous.

In an article in Novaya gazeta, Leningrad oblast resident Anatasiya Mironova says that nowhere do Russians take more pride in putting their appearance in order than when crossing the border into European countries. They don’t want to be put to shame by the quality of life of the Europeans or worse not allowed in.

But this behavior doesn’t stop when they cross or recross the borders, she continues. Russians who return from visiting the Baltic countries take better care of their yards, clean up the trash, and make sure that their houses are painted well. Moreover, the closer they are to the border, the more they are inclined to behave that way.

[quote]“Perhaps, therefore, the most well-appointed Russian regions are those at the border. There where people often go to Europe.” Even between the northern part of Leningrad oblast and its southern section there is a huge difference in how Russians behave. Even in impoverished Pskov oblast, those near the border dress better.[/quote]

And in Kaliningrad, even the homeless appear well-dressed, she adds.

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Until recently, almost two million Petersburg residents visited Finland at least once a year – that is “about half of the working-age population.” Now, they don’t have the money to do so because of the economic crisis; but they still are affected by their image of what is appropriate in Finland – and that guides their actions even when they don’t travel.

Mironova says she would not be surprised to find out that “in fact in Finland there exists a secret program for bringing Russians up to snuff. Who wants to live alongside a neighbor who isn’t concerned with his own home? Nobody.” And the Finns have played a huge role in transforming Russians in the northwestern part of the country.

“Finland has trained us to eat better foods! In Petersburg as in Kaliningrad and Pskov, there is a lot less bad food being sold than in central Russia.” People know what fresh milk is and expect it, and these expectations affect what is sold even in parts of the city where people travel compared to those where they don’t.

“What would Petersburg be like if it weren’t 200 kilometers from Finland? And what would be our entire country which now is ruled by people from Petersburg be like as well? There are few who have done as much for Russia as today’s Finns. For thanks to Finland, we have federal officials who from their youth know European cleanliness, manners, and quality.”

If those in power in Moscow had come not from Petersburg but from Yaroslavl or Kirov, she concludes, “I fear we would all have to begin to weep.”


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  • Robert

    Russians don’t HAVE to observe and live a degenerate life of Trash Gardeners and Garbage Displayers… this is a Personal Choice or Decision which – at the same time – observes, displays and demonstrates ones’ unique, utter and ShameFULL DisRespect … for yourself, for Humanity, for the Environment and for Blessed Sacred Mother Earth. Where do such ‘people’ get such attitudes and behavior patterns?!? Are you born with them? You need foreigners or ‘outsiders’ to demonstrate or show you a possible Civilized alternative … or … do the ‘putinistic’ “people” in power BREED you into such activities … over decades and centuries … by Bleeding you, Greeding you and Seeding you into an utterly Total ‘State’ of screwing you … and fuking you into a mental and physically observable ‘state’ of … “i don’t really CARE about ANYTHING … ? … ?? … ??? . . . …

    Get a Life. … You Russians can Clean Up Your Act! You can BE PROUD! …

    Start a Revolution … in your own home … in your own neighborhood … in your own community! You BEGIN to build, create, own and Honor your Community from WITHIN! … Start your own Personal Revolution … pick and choose your own Color! :) … 1917 … . . … . it’s now 2017 … you have until November … to Come Clean…

    • Fortranz

      I don’t entirely disagree with you Robert, however, I would say that much of this “degenerate life of Trash Gardeners and Garbage” is the result of generations of depression caused by poverty and dis-enfranchisement of people in Russian society.

      The solution is the same though: Start your own Personal Revolution … pick and choose your own honor within your community.

  • Alex George

    The area of St Petersburg and Vyborg, and on up to Arkhangelsk, has a lot of separatist sentiment. Many people there would happily ditch the rest of Russia.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      Stalin deeply distrusted the Leningrad party leaders, whom he considered far too independent. This led to first Kirov’s murder and later Zhdanov’s. One wonders whether the dwarf has the same distrust of St Petersburg’s current leaders, even though he is from St P himself.
      I’m pretty sure Ksenia Sobchak isn’t on the dwarf’s Christmas card list.

      • Andrew Chmil

        He’s a MOLE!!! :)

    • Andrew Chmil

      Ruski MOLE above!!! SCUM!!! Defends the MOLES of
      __UKRAINE TODAY USA__

      & the MOLE “poor Larissa lost her only only child in Donbas!!!” — yeah, sure, you too eh? :)))

      • Alex George

        Ah the Putin troll is back. How’re they hanging, Andrew?

        • Andrew Chmil

          And that Russo-mongolian “Vasyl P.” — A MODERATOR.
          of the MOLE SITE.

          __UKRAINE TODAY USA__

          with some SPUTNIK etc.. BS articles, “slipped in” :))
          up-voted you! :)))

          Faqqots!!! Ruski!! — RAT EATERS! 😉
          Why don’t you try “stuking” some more! 😉

          A rather VERY Ruski thing to do, …Knock yo’ selves out! :)
          CRETINS!

          Did “Larissa” still “lose her only child in Donbas” ??? :)))))
          Morons!

          • Alex George

            Sorry, but that is just not correct – the blog known as “Ukraine Today USA” is not in any sense pro-Kremlin. Any Sputnik articles referred to are in order to criticize them.

            What I have written about you is the truth:
            *You don’t write positive things about Ukraine;
            *You never criticize Putin trolls, except for just one (AC’s Daddy) and then only when he attacks you;
            *You claim to live in Ukraine but clearly do not;
            *You complain about Ukrainians not speaking Ukrainian, yet clearly do not speak any yourself;
            *You flame many people who are supporters of Ukraine.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Not quite true- he hasn’t flamed ME yet- well, not yet anyway.

          • Andrew Chmil

            No reason to… as yet.
            I merely consider you most naive.

            “Alex George” is now OBVIOUS … given his *repetitive* claims & non-answers to what I wrote & again — his ignoring what I wrote ALONG with hie constant REPETITIONS of the same.
            CONSTANTLY … but no answers to WTF I presented,
            merely MOUTHING THE SAME … Hmm… 😉

            Guess that fools you — Huh? :)

            However, you appear to be, Hmm… “committed” to this track. :))) So be it!

            My FB alone goes back years. :)
            As for your “clever little friends” ??? :)))

            https://www.facebook.com/andrew.chmilewsky

            Other stuff all over, for decades …
            “Dagwood Bumstead” :)))

          • Alex George

            And what I wrote about you is correct. anyone who swishes can check it just by looking at your posts:

            *You don’t write positive things about Ukraine;
            *You never criticize Putin trolls, except for just one (AC’s Daddy) and then only when he attacks you;
            *You claim to live in Ukraine but clearly do not;
            *You complain about Ukrainians not speaking Ukrainian, yet clearly do not speak any yourself;
            *You flame many people who are supporters of Ukraine.

          • Alex George

            Ha ha, good point .

            Give him time, but don’t let him distract you from writing positive stuff about Ukraine!

          • Andrew Chmil

            “Sorry, but that is just not correct – the blog known as “Ukraine Today
            USA” is not in any sense pro-Kremlin. Any Sputnik articles referred to
            are in order to criticize them.”

            So POST some SH*T so I will know that such SMELLS!!! :)))

            WHY BOTHER?

            We aren’t DUM @SS RUSKI !!! :))
            SAVE YOUR “EXPLANATIONS” FOR YOUR OWN FINN-UGRIC KIND! 😉

            What a REAL “genius” people you are … 72 years of communism, eh? :))))

            http://tinyurl.com/h3gmpem

          • Alex George

            In other words, you cannot contradict any of my points,. Your posts are nothing but drivel, attempts at abuse, with a view to creating dissension among those who support Ukraine. The simple truth is this:

            *You don’t write positive things about Ukraine;
            *You never criticize Putin trolls, except for just one (AC’s Daddy) and then only when he attacks you;
            *You claim to live in Ukraine but clearly do not;
            *You complain about Ukrainians not speaking Ukrainian, yet clearly do not speak any yourself;
            *You flame many people who are supporters of Ukraine.

          • Andrew Chmil

            You are most ASSUREDLY — a Ruski Troll.

            Go repeat yourself some more —- some more…

            Now I shall expose “your kind of Ruski Troll type” as well.
            Your kind are REALLY ruski SCUM!

          • Alex George

            You haven’t exposed anything. The simple truth is this:

            *You don’t write positive things about Ukraine;
            *You never criticize Putin trolls, except for just one (AC’s Daddy) and then only when he attacks you;
            *You claim to live in Ukraine but clearly do not;
            *You complain about Ukrainians not speaking Ukrainian, yet clearly do not speak any yourself;
            *You flame many people who are supporters of Ukraine.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “MichaelA” — is ALSO A RUSKI (or ***SERBIAN*** (same sh*t!) is also a RUSKI POS MOLE…
            who like “ALEX GEORGE” — ALSO HIDES IT’S POSTING PROFILE —- may even be the same entity….

            https://disqus.com/by/MichaelA_1/

          • Alex George

            Ah, this is a pushback to my comment the other day that you are probably the same person who uses the account “Njordheim”. Of course i don’t know that for sure, but try not making the same spelling mistakes as him in future! ;o)

          • Andrew Chmile

            RUSKI ***MOLE** ROTE:

            *You claim to live in Ukraine but clearly do not;
            *You complain about Ukrainians not speaking Ukrainian, yet clearly do not speak any yourself;
            *You flame many people who are supporters of Ukraine.”

            PROVE ANY OF THE ABOVE …. RUSKI faqqot! 😉

          • Alex George

            You have proved it yourself with numerous posts.

            If you want to change, then try doing the things I am talking about. Try writing positive things about Ukraine, and stop flaming people with a long record of support for her.

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          If he IS Ukrainian, he’s probably one of Tihipko’s supporters.
          Previously he no doubt voted for Proffessor Viktor.

  • zorbatheturk

    Russia is heading for fourth world status. It’s global power aspirations are crazy. They must be eating magic mushroom omelettes for breakfast.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      You’re seeing the combined effects of consuming several typical Dwarfstanian products: rotgut samogon, Krokodil and Boyaryshnik.

      • zorbatheturk

        I think they have powderized Adolf Hitler’s skull and are snorting it.

  • zorbatheturk

    Nice Finnish houses and cobblestoned street. RuSSians wallow in mud and can’t even afford a can of paint. Like in Soviet times when all your industrial production goes on armaments, there is no paint, timber boards, or any sausages in the shops. I am guessing ruSSians do not have a DIY chain like Home Depot. In any case a can of paint would cost them a week’s wages. Then a paintbrush or roller is required…

    Finland also has a great movie director and screenwriter in Aki Kaurismaki. RuSSian movies are pretty hopeless.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      Actually, three varieties of sausage can be bought in Dwarfstan: rat sausage, cat sausage and dog sausage. Cat sausage is more more expensive than rat sausage, and dog sausage is top of the line and most expensive.

      • zorbatheturk

        RuSSian sausages are one part gristle, two parts fat, three parts ground donkey intestine, and four parts meat-flavoured sawdust. I hope the russkiys are not turning poor old sausage dogs into dog sausages. If I lived in ruSSiya and had a cat, I would keep a close eye on it. Ratburgers are easy to identify, look for the long tail sticking out from the bun.

        • Scradje

          Mmmm, delicious with spicy polonium relish.