War and the Putin negotiations

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2015/02/07 • Analysis & Opinion

by Vitaliy Portnikov

The unprecedented trip of Merkel and Hollande to Kyiv and Moscow

No matter how the negotiations conducted by Chancellor Angela Merkel and President François Hollande in Moscow and Kyiv end, they will go down in the history of modern diplomacy as a completely unprecedented voyage, designed to find a solution to an unresolved conflict. Five hours with President Petro Poroshenko. Five hours with President Vladimir Putin. Silence after talks in Kyiv. Silence after talks in Moscow. Only the protocol photos and videos convey the mood. A friendly, externally relaxed atmosphere at the talks in Kyiv, and the obvious tension and irritation in Moscow, with the desire to demonstrate distancing from the interlocutor. Is it even possible to find any kind of compromise in such a contrasting atmosphere?

It seems that Merkel and Holland themselves did not believe in such a compromise but decided to try their luck, so to speak, after the appearance of new proposals by Putin to resolve the conflict. The chancellor and the president played their roles as if scripted. Merkel was the “bad” cop, Hollande the “good” one. Merkel does not hide her frustration with what is happening when she flies to Moscow. Hollande makes encouraging statements. Merkel in the Kremlin looks like an annoyed history teacher who has to convince the bully. And Hollande is the physical education teacher who is disappointed with a student but still able to appreciate his energy. Meanwhile, in the background, are American discussions about the possibility of supplying arms to Ukraine and the European Union’s intentions to explore new sectoral sanctions in case the negotiations fail. This is creating a kind of psychological trap to which the visitors are trying to drive Putin. On the one hand, they speak with him as with an authoritative leader. On the other hand, they promise to increase pressure if he is not willing to compromise. But is Putin capable of understanding these signals?

This we will find out in the coming days. For the time being, it is clear that Merkel and Hollande have once again dragged Putin into the negotiating process. But perhaps therein lies their pedagogical mission — not so much to achieve a compromise as to keep the Russian ruler from steps that will make the situation uncontrollable. It is precisely the fear of such a development that Germany’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Frank-Walter Steinmeier discussed before the trips of Merkel and Hollande to Moscow and Kyiv. The situation could easily slide to 1914, the start of the First World War.

Translated by: Anna Mostovych
Source: Radio Svoboda

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  • chris hawkins

    “unprecedented voyage”? Chamberlain went to Munich.

    • Mephisto

      exactly, Merkel (Chamberlain), Hollande (Dadalier) met Putin (Hitler) to discuss the fate of Ukraine (Czechoslovakia) without Ukraine. Munich Agreement 2015

      • disqus_aJpixObjG7

        a comment that perceives exactly what is going on! BUT PLEASE CHANGE YOUR NAME AND IMAGE!

        • DejaVu

          All I can say is that prepare for World War III. Over a year has gone by and don’t expect it to change.

          These leaders will sell anyone out for money and their so called democratic principles and morales are nothing but a big joke.

    • Arctic_Slicer

      “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it” — George Santayana

  • TheBlogFodder

    The situation could easily slide to 1914, the start of the First World War.

    Precisely. The situation is much more like 1914 than 1938. Except with nucs. I just finished Margaret MacMillan’s The War That Ended Peace and wondered which century I was living in.

  • Brent

    Maybe now Merkl and Hollande will realize exactly the kind of mindless murdering terrorist they are dealing with and stop giving him ‘offramps’ and ‘ways to save face’.

    It’s time to declare Russia a terrorist state and isolate it from the West that it reviles and blames so much of its own incompetence on.

    • StumpedNoMore2

      Yeah, you and I have been saying that for a long time Brent. This whole negotiation have been going on for almost one year and it hasn’t yield any result(s) so far. It has resulted in the death of Ukrainian and Russian but hasn’t stopped Putin. The Minsk agreement was as joke to Putin.

      I hate to say Brent but I think it is time to cut them from SWIFT if the West in not interested in providing arms to Ukraine. We cannot allow Putin to have his cake and eat it to on the expense of the Ukrainian people.

    • disqus_aJpixObjG7

      that’s right- we do not need to help putin save face. RATHER WE NEED TO ACTIVELY HELP PUTIN BREAK HIS NECK.
      He is a rabid little punk and NEEDS TO BE PUT DOWN.

  • Charles J. Kollman

    Time is running out for all.

  • Charles J. Kollman

    Mr. Putin in truth only is concerned in his own interests not the Russian People or the people of The Ukraine. Russia is the best when it comes to lies cover ups and propaganda. Did they ever find who was blowing up flats in Moscow or was this a Russian red flag 9/11 like in The US. meaning maybe a inside job.

  • disqus_aJpixObjG7

    This is not diplomacy. These are cowards scurrying to indulge and appease a mass murderer because they have their tails between their legs and are afraid of the punk little mussolini putin.
    Look at the body language. Putin is gloating. he is calling the shots. Hollande is a “suck” telling UKRAINE TO SUBMIT TO russia and kissing putin’s backside as he trembles.

    Chamberlain scurried to hitler/putin in 1939, not because he wanted to exercise diplomacy but because he was a COWARD who refused to see that THERE CAN BE NO TALKS, NO DIPLOMACY NO DISCUSSIONS WITH MASS MURDERING TOTALITARIAN DICTATORS SEEKING TO destroy neighboring countries FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL aggrandizement.

    Chamberlain refused to see THAT AGRESSORS ONLY UNDERSTAND ARMS IN THE FIELD not diplomacy, not talks not sanctions.

    HOW DARE MERKEL AND HOLLANDE SCURRY TO BOW AND SCRAPE BEFORE THE MURDERER PUTIN TO OFFER HIM CHUNKS OF UKRAINE FOR NOTHING IN RETURN.

    In 1939 there were a lot of obamas merkels and hollandes around- they all wanted to reason with and come to a deal with Hitler/putin. ONLY THE STALWART FEW WITH TWO BALLS AND A BRAIN said, “WE DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS, WE STAND UP TO THEM. Churchill said this in 1939-40.

    WAR IS ALREADY GOING SO kissing his backside TO AVOID WAR WITH PUTIN IS LIKE THROWING STEAK TO A RABID DOG. HERE DOGGY DOGGY BE A GOOD BOY…WILL THAT STOP HIM? No, YOU NEED TO SHOOT, PUT DOWN A RABID DOG. CHURCHILL UNDERSTOOD THIS.

  • Brent

    Let’s take a closer look at these two nations that are trying to negotiate peace with Russia and do not want to provide defensive weapons to Ukraine

    GERMANY: built a $140 million training camp for Russian military in southwest Russia through Rheinmetall
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/22/germany-helped-prep-russia-for-war-u-s-sources-say.html

    FRANCE: built assault class Mistral warships
    http://webdoc.france24.com/mistral-france-russia-warships-saint-nazaire/

    AND THEY DON’T WANT ANYONE TO SUPPLY UKRAINE WITH EVEN DEFENSIVE MILITARY HARDWARE AS THEY DO NOT FEEL THERE CAN BE A MILITARY SOLUTION….I think we see their true colors

    • Arctic_Slicer

      Great point. Merkel and Hollande are perfectly okay with supplying Russia, a nation well an it’s way to becoming a fascist dictatorship. with weapons but completely against supplying Ukraine, a nation that is trying to build a functioning democracy, with weapons.

  • DejaVu

    Negotiations. Well it seems they are negotiating when World War III can break out. The annexation of Crimea was the Sudetenland 1938 scenario repeat. In 1939 Germany annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia and then other countries.

    Honestly with these weaklings and “Western traitors” in power they will deserve what is coming to them. How is it possible that I can see this and they are too daft or too paid off to not care or simply encourage Putin to repeat September 1939 and the full annexation.

    Also Hungary and the Czech Republic voting against further sanctions isn’t that ironic since they both were under Soviet Rule and had their own uprisings and revolutions in 1956 and 1968.

  • Kezzo

    These people show so much weakness … They are playing right into Putins hands …. EU are what I have been calling for almost 12 months ..,. A bunch of chamberlains … Weak yellowbellied typical politicians … the USA is no better ..Sad, so Sad so many young people will die ..Have no doubts Russia will lose. but so many stupid deaths, for the greed of ex KGB Gangsters in Moscow …