FIFA said investigating Russian soccer team for doping, putting 2018 World Cup at risk

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A British newspaper is reporting that FIFA, the world governing body for soccer, is now investigating all the members of the Russian team in the last world cup competition for doping, an investigation that Moscow is dismissing as a witch hunt but one that could increase pressure on FIFA to strip Moscow of the right to hold the 2018 World Cup.

London’s Daily Mail reports today that “every member of Russia’s World Cup team is under investigation in a doping probe” by FIFA. That includes “the entire Russian squad for Rio 2014” and “a further 11” who are currently playing.

As the paper points out, this is the first indication that the doping scandal in which Russian teams in the Sochi Olympiad were caught has spread to soccer, a development that if FIFA concludes that is true will put enormous pressure on the international body to strip Moscow of the right to hold the World Cup competition next year.

Not surprisingly, Vitaly Mutko, Russia’s deputy prime minister, president of the Russian Football Union, and the man who led Russia’s defense against doping charges in other sports until that became unsustainable, has denounced the London paper’s report as nonsense and declared that doping has never been a problem in Russian soccer.

Vladimir Putin congratulating then Russia's sports minister Vitaly Mutko (believed to be the top administrator of the state-organized doping system) with his birthday at a joint meeting of the Council for Physical Education and Sports under the President of Russia and the Organizing Committee for the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The book Putin holds in his hand is an English language self-study textbook being presented to Mutko as a prank gift. December 2015, Moscow, Russia (Image: Mikhail Metzel/TASS)

Vladimir Putin congratulating then Russia’s sports minister Vitaly Mutko (believed to be the top administrator of the state-organized doping system) with his birthday at a joint meeting of the Council for Physical Education and Sports under the President of Russia and the Organizing Committee for the 2018 FIFA World Cup. The book Putin holds in his hand is an English language self-study textbook being presented to Mutko as a prank gift. December 2015, Moscow, Russia (Image: Mikhail Metzel/TASS)

But if Mutko is confident at least for now and for public consumption that the story is untrue, many Russian outlets appear less certain and are openly warning that this latest report could cost Moscow the right to host the 2018 World Cup, an event that Vladimir Putin has made second only to the Sochi Olympics in importance for showing Russia’s return to the world stage.

One news outlet said that the 2018 competition was “on the brink” of being taken away from Russia as many activists have demanded for some time. Others were somewhat less apocalyptic but quite concerned. (See, for example, echo.msk.ru and gazeta.ru).

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Comments

  1. Avatar Scradje says:

    Out out out.

  2. Avatar danram says:

    It’s an absolute disgrace that Russia still retains the right to host the 2018 World Cup in light of its actions in Ukraine and its systemic, state-sponsored doping program. But no matter what is uncovered, it won’t be taken away from them. They paid the right people a lot of money under the table to get the tournament. FIFA is every bit as corrupt as the Russian leadership is.

    1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

      Sure buddy we believe you

      1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

        Farkov.

      2. Avatar Bert says:

        Bahahahaha hahahhaa

        1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Cheers mate

  3. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

    This farce should have been relocated by now. How can an event of this magnitude be held in a terror state? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cddf5de0a53ef887f827e87ca5ab36aeb9657a3f912de22106a195308419b7e5.jpg

    1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

      Because most people don’t want their sports with a side helping of racist politics.
      But you don’t care eh?
      Everyone needs to suffer so you can gloat.
      Retard.

  4. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

    The mere idea of holding any international competition where honest people honestly compete with each other, let alone one as significant as the soccer WC, in today’s Russia is a travesty.

    1. Avatar Ihor Dawydiak says:

      Yes indeed and if banning (for the most part) the Russians from competing in the Brazil Olympics could be carried out, then why not do the same for the scheduled World Cup championship slated for Russia in 2018? As for who could be held to blame, all fingers should point to Vovochka and his band of lying cheats.

      1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

        You know, I’m curious about the motives of all this cheating nonsense. I kind of understand them on part of the USSR driven by ideology and striving to prove to the world that it’s superior to others and showing their sportsmen off as a sort of proof since the rest of the world hardly ever saw anyone else from the USSR.

        But the “ideology” of the today’s Russia is feudal kleptocracy wrapped in the veneer of orthodox showmanship. What benefit do its rulers get from the rest of the world by brandishing cups and medals “won” in sports? The only explanation I find (if a rational explanation is even possible) is that all this “Hurrah! Ours have won! Our’s the best!” is intended for internal consumption aimed at their sheeple in need of the more spectacles the less bread they have.

        1. Avatar Ihor Dawydiak says:

          You’ve hit the nail on the head. The primary raison d’etre of any dictatorship, regardless of whether it be communist or fascist in its orientation, is to exude a sense of power as well as the infallibility of their leaders. Furthermore, especially in the case of larger countries such as Russia, the field of athletics or sports is one way to demonstrate that power wherever possible although its propaganda value is primarily channeled towards its own populace. Then, in doing so, the leaders of the dictatorship try to divert the attention from the social, financial and economic woes faced by the general population to the victories of its athletes as well as re-enforcing a nationalist spirit. Therefore, should Russia lose the opportunity to host the FIFA Championship series in 2018 along with the banning of its athletes from competing, then that would be a devastating blow to the internal prestige of the Putin regime. However, it should also be noted that Putin and his cadres are well aware of such a possible fiasco and if the Russian team is banned they will undoubtedly call foul and denounce FIFA and Western “imperialists” for collusion in denying Russian football “supremacy”. As for the Russian public, there would be anger and sobbing but in their hearts most would know that Kremlin protests against exclusion would be nothing more than “sour grapes”.

        2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Hahaha.
          Yeah like the US and the rest don’t cheat?
          Asafa powel and Usain Bolt don’t cheat?

          1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            From the standpoint of the presumption of innocence – no, the don’t. First prove that they do, then gab. You can by the same token say “everybody steals”, “everybody kills”, etc. Sure, there have been cheaters from countries other than Russia, and when they were caught, they were dealt with accordingly.

            The eminence of the Sochi Olympics case is that there, the Russian government, through its secret service, engaged in a massive undercover campaign of systemic cheating; and this has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

            p.s. Whataboutism and justifying one bad behavior by another don’t work.

          2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            “Whataboutism”…
            Yeah funny how when Americans like Lance, gatlin (who by the way still competes), marion jones and her husband. The Williams sisters, that female gold medal gymnast etc don’t bother you.
            Russia was not caught doing anything. It was accused. Accused by caught and proven cheaters.
            Funny how when it’s Russia though they are immediately guilty but don’t you even dare mention someone else doing it.

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Good vid.
            I love Vinnie.
            Funny thing is, he was right.
            Thanks buddy

          4. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            But of course he was, so you’re welcome.

          5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            What about those American cheaters?

          6. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            All cheaters are dishonest. The difference between the US and Russia is, the US government doesn’t have a department charged with designing comprehensive cheating programs for US sportsmen, forcing the sportsmen into them, and implementing them via special clandestine operations. In the US, cheaters are on their own; in Russia, they’re purposefully supported by its government.

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            What Rubbish.
            No cheater is on their own. Look at Lance. His whole team doped.
            You can’t get the good stuff without corporate help.
            I don’t care. This is a non issue.
            Everyone cheats. Absolutely everyone. They should give out 2 medals. One for the athletes. The other for the chemists.
            No Russian athlete got caught red handed. Sharapova did. But no ones suggesting the state had anything to do with it. The rest would be laughed out of a real court.
            Does the US have state sponsored doping? Britain? Look at their cycling program.
            You have to be very naive to think they don’t.

          8. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            >No cheater is on their own.<

            Don't you notice, for all your linguistic prowess, that your sentence doesn't agree in number?

          9. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Explain. I see several issues. But number?
            And thanks for saying i have all this linguistic prowess.

          10. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            “A pronoun usually refers to something earlier in the text (its antecedent) and must agree in number — singular/plural — with the thing to which it refers.” “Cheater” is singular, “their” is plural; hence, they don’t agree in number. Basic grammar.
            You’re welcome.

          11. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Dude.
            I don’t care that you went to the dictionary for half an hour. I am writing on a tablet. Fair enough. Good spot.
            But so what?
            Im not getting marked on it.
            You could easily go and find mistakes in every post i make. And what about it?
            I don’t even rightly know if i or the tablet made the mistake.
            Cheers for the research though.
            Whatever you set out to prove. You’re nearly there.

          12. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Dude, whether you’re writing on a tablet or a sheet of papyrus, you don’t refer to a singular noun as “their”. I don’t have to go to a dictionary or any other source of reference to detect that – it’s obvious. But at least now you know what “agreeing in number” means. Thanking for the edification would be more manlike that blaming the po’ tablet.

          13. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Thanks man.
            That little nitpicking about the English language was so entertaining. Lol
            I hope you’re getting paid for the marking time spent.
            Or is it in complex inflation?
            Who knows with you geniuses these days.
            But back to how racist ranting is completely justified in your head.
            You haven’t explained it properly yet.
            What? Wikipedia doesn’t have an answer? No way.
            But if u=racist and wannabe u=genius fromzemaster race. Then u=must be a super broke special spastic military know it all with a god complex.
            Besides what are you doing not fighting if you’re military?
            You should be fighting the untermenschen at the front. Like all good puppys.
            No wonder those other regions will split away soon.
            You sound like all the other eternal students/soldiers I’ve met.
            Trying to talk yourself up to someone a million miles away. How dumb.

          14. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            You’re welcome. The English language is fun. The rest of your rant here is entertaining only but for its utter oddity. But thanks for the amusement anyway.

          15. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            No worries.
            Serhiy.
            That is why im on here. The amusement.
            So tell me. What’s it like being an “open society” mouth piece?
            Does producing racist fiction pay well?
            You still haven’t answered why you’re not on the front.
            Did your friends say this is where you can do the most good?
            They were lying to you buddy.
            You’re a genius rambo man. With you there they can kill all their countrymen and Russians in one day.
            God, you could be the next aristotle.

          16. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            For you, its more like the spell correct is fun.
            Ps. Why dorfmenko?

          17. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            The difference between US and Russia is that you’re receiving welfare benefits from the US.
            So you can’t say jack about them.
            You don’t care about justice in this world. Or the end of war etc.
            You just wanna see you neighbors cow die.
            So you can gloat.
            Im happy you’re occupied and soon to be parceled by Russia.
            Saves some other race from copping your hate. No doubt you would turn elsewhere. Like Poland

          18. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            I see you know a lot of things about me I don’t. Have you tried writing fantasy? Could be more gainful than speculating in this space.

          19. Avatar Bert says:

            Bahahahahaa. We are not talking about American cheaters, but Russian. And there is no proof that the American government has a large scale doping programme, while it is proven that the Russian government is organising the whole doping circus in Russia.

          20. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Bhahaha spastic.
            Nothing is proven.
            It would get laughed out of any real court.
            Lol

          21. Avatar Bert says:

            Ba ha ha ha ha ha, yes, they have that in the civilised part of the world.

          22. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Have what?
            Real courts?
            Its ok. You can still get there.

      2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        So you can watch your neighbors cow die?
        Pathetic

    2. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

      I recall many years ago …. in the Olympic *FENCING* matches …. Ruski had a “trick” foil — that electronically registered phony “hits” on their opponents! 🙂

      RUSKI JUST CAN’T HELP THEMSELVES!
      They are what they are….

      1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

        “Can’t help themselves”. Exactly.

        From the Mayo Clinic site: “Kleptomania is the recurrent failure to resist urges to steal items that you generally don’t really need and that usually have little value”.

        The same principle applies to cheating in sports: The benefits are imaginary and questionable at best, while the risks are real and huge. The morons from the Kremlin have been seeing the consequences of those materialized risks unfold for them ever since their infamous Sochi “Olympics”. Not only they have been caught red-handed there, but it has triggered the discovery of the panoply of cheating from their past endeavors.

        1. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

          So …. I thought you were in on it somehow, Fl or not …..

          http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a55879/russian-bikers-trump/

          1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            ;).

        2. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

          Putin eager to bug out from Donbas – Russian expert Читайте більше тут:

          http://zik.ua/en/news/2017/06/25/putin_eager_to_bug_out_from_donbas__russian_expert_1120935

        3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Don’t quote psychology when you don’t understand what you’re saying.
          Its part of OCD behaviour. And systemic cheating plays no part in it.

          1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            I didn’t mean any psychological perspective. “The same principle” in my post is a reference, not to behavioral similarities, but to the similarities in terms of the risks far outweighing the benefits; isn’t it clear from the sentence?
            p.s. OTOH, the cheating in this case can be easily viewed as stealing medals from those to who have rightfully earned them. And judging from the Soviet/Russian history of incessant (and mostly useless and uncalled for) cheating in sports, it looks quite obsessive and compulsive – not on part of the sportsmen, mind you, but on part of the establishment forcing them to use “enhancers”.
            p.p.s. Using the imperative mood in a free exchange of opinions is non comme il faut. I can quote whatever the heck strikes my fancy.

          2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Of course you can.
            But your argument that the risks outweigh the reward are wrong.
            Ask Lance Armstrong
            He’s still living like a millionaire.

          3. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            I’d be wrong if I said “always” or “in all cases”, but I didn’t, nor intended to. Any talk of risks vs benefits is statistical by nature.

          4. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Yeah sure.
            Now i have to read what you didn’t say. Because we can all do that right?
            You stated risks outweigh reward. Which is clearly not true.

          5. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            No, you don’t have to – you can merely abstain from putting words in my mouth. Risk is a statistical notion. Just because someone has won a $1m on a bet that he would jump into the Niagara Falls and survive doesn’t mean that the benefit/risk ratio of doing so isn’t low. The same is true for theft and cheating under the circumstances governed by an enforced rule of law.
            p.s. Inside Russia, where cheating and theft are rewarded more than they’re punished (especially when it’s done on a grand scale by bureaucrats), the ratio is much higher, which affects people’s behavior accordingly. However, when Russia as a whole cheats and steals in international competitions, it doesn’t apply, and the ratio is back to where it indicates “it’s not worth doing it”.

          6. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Why would cheating in Russia be any different to cheating anywhere else?

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Why all the backtracking? Im not putting words in your mouth. Not my fault if you can’t articulate yourself properly.

          8. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            What backtracking? Do you have a serious problem with logic? Any statement regarding risk is meaningful only in the context of a statistical sample, i.e. a sufficient number and selection of individuals to make it valid. The statement about the risks of a certain action outweighing its benefits cannot be refuted by pointing out an individual who’s happened to win against all odds. But if the statement said that the risks outweigh the benefits always or in every case, the refutation would be correct – just like it’s sufficient to cite a single example to the contrary of a theorem’s proposition to prove it incorrect.

            Hence, for your assertion that the example of Armstrong refutes the thesis that the risks of cheating outweigh its potential rewards to be valid, the thesis must contain the always or in every case clause. It doesn’t, thus your assertion is logically invalid, and yet you still insist it is, which can only happen if you add the generalizing clause to what I said. Hence it’s either you’re utterly logically wrong or you’re implicitly putting words in my mouth to make it logically right. There’s no third way; period, end of story.

            Bottom line: Cheating and theft aren’t beneficial on the average and/or in general next to the risks associated with them, and rare individuals who’ve benefited from either fail to disprove the notion.

          9. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Yeah man i have huuugggeee issues with logic. Lol
            Did your little performance make you feel smart?
            Why the complex?
            I was commenting on what you said. Nothing more. If you don’t think it’s worth it. Good for you. Many, many others think it is. Not just Lance. Up to the individual.
            I don’t know if in this case a single example contrary to your theorem(Lance) actually disproves yours. But you are saying it should. But there’s many more anyway. I wasn’t putting words into anything.
            I just wasn’t aware that i was commenting on a thesis on logic. Lol
            But i do think you are wrong when you say that risk can only be analyzed in the context of “statistical samples”. Sure it’s an objective view point. But there’s also a subjective one. Which brings us to your personal view of not worth it ,compared to others who disagree with that stance and think it very much worthwhile.
            So without writing another thesis like yours. (I don’t need to prove whose balls are bigger) There’s nothing illogical about what i said.
            You just didn’t articulate yourself properly.
            Ps. Sometimes less is more. Lol
            Don’t try so hard.

          10. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            “Did your little performance make you feel smart?” What has made you suspect that?
            “Why the complex?” Huh?
            “I was commenting on what you said. Nothing more”. Your comment was illogical. I’ve said enough to help you absorb that; not my fault if you can’t.
            “I just wasn’t aware that i was commenting on a thesis on logic”. Doesn’t mean you can defy it and still say something meaningful.
            “But i do think you are wrong when you say that risk can only be analyzed in the context of “statistical samples”. You can personally view risk subjectively, but as far as analyses are concerned, they are done to produce inferences for actions based them. Look at how insurance or loan companies evaluate risk. If they based their risk evaluation on a few extreme speeders or gross delinquents, they wouldn’t need an army of actuaries, and there would be no auto insurance or lending industries.
            “I don’t need to prove whose balls are bigger”. How have you managed to ascertain that your interlocutor has any to be compared with?
            “Sometimes less is more”. Still talking about the balls? “Why the complex?”

      2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Hahaha racist bigot cant help himself

      3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        You recall?
        Yeah they told you all about it.lol

  5. Avatar Bert says:

    Hell no, it is not in danger. The FIFA has no sense of ethics. I mean, the Russians were using North Korean slaves to build stadiums and the FIFA doesn’t care. The FIFA is as bad as Russia is.

    1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

      Hahaha what bs

        1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Propaganda rubbish

        2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Show proof of this slave labour.
          Go on

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Wow
            Now guest workers are slaves eh?
            Racist spastic.
            You provided nothing.
            You keep googling your way through life.

          2. Avatar Bert says:

            Ba ha ha ha ha! You have never heard about North-Koreans? Everyone there is a slave! Ba ha ha ha ha ha ha! Never heard a troll saying something stupid like that! Ba ha ha ha ha ha ha! Btw you are a slave too ba ha ha ha ha!

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Bhahaha….
            If im on the beach most days..does that make me a slave to surf? Lol
            So you couldn’t actually provide proof eh?
            Didn’t think so. Most your time is spent in a dingy room.

          4. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Lol

          5. Avatar Bert says:

            Ba ha ha ha!

          6. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Oh and yeah stop trolling me now please

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Whatever.
            Only spastic racist cretins like you even talk like that.

          8. Avatar Bert says:

            Ba ha ha ha! Bahahaha hahaaahaaaahaaa haaaaaha! Ba ha ha ha haaahaa! You are a funny enslaved Russian troll. Ba ha ha ha ha haahahaa! Ba ha ha haaaahahhaa hahaha haaaa hhahahahaa bahahaha ha! Hahaha haa bahaa haa!

  6. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

    RuSSians will always cheat.

    1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

      Of course they will…
      Cause they’re evil Russians.
      Gronk. Hahaha

      1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

        You are dumber than dumb.

        1. Avatar slavko says:

          you must mean stooopid then!

          1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            This guy swallowed Putin’s brown stuff.

          2. Avatar slavko says:

            Yeah he proudly uses it as war paint on his face 😀

        2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Yeah mate. Cause you say so.

          1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            That’s right. You dumbo mucho little dcik boy.

          2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            You talk about trannys and pedophiles much more than is healthy dude.
            What? Hate them too?

    2. Avatar veth says:

      FIFA: RUSSIA AND qATAR BRIBED THE FIFA WITH MILLIONS!

    3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

      Racist bigots will always spew out racist bigoted bile. Keep it up

  7. Avatar Terry Washington says:

    Infamy, infamy, infamy- they’ve ALL got it in-fa me!(to quote Kenneth William’s character in “Carry On Up The Senate”!

  8. Avatar kievjoy says:

    Fifa won’t investigate,they were paid lots of money to give it to Russia. That was established almost from the beginning. Ukraine and Poland have the facilities to house it as have the UK. UK offered as soon as people started protesting about Russia having it.

  9. Avatar Mick Servian says:

    Lol fifa said they tested the players and not one came back positive.
    Nice fake news site

    1. Avatar slavko says:

      The fact is that they are STILL investigating. So it is you with the “fake news”.

      1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Nah buddy.
        Fifa said they tested all the Russian players at the last world cup and this confed cup as well. And no one tested positive. Go look it up.
        Another thing, Fifa actually does the handling and logistics of the sample. So no one can accuse Russia of tampering this time.
        This fake news site picked up the story from another fake news outlet and ran with it. You know, cause of the anti russian stance on here.
        Go look it up if you don’t believe it. Fifas own words.

        1. Avatar slavko says:

          FIFA’s words seems to be lacking any credibility these days. WADA is saying differently. It appears that the Russians have clean samples of urine stashed to be produced for testing when demanded. Let’s face it the Russian athletes have been part of a state sanctioned efforts to win at any costs. The investigation is ongoing! Go look it up yourself.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Fifa and Wada are two different organizations. With different internal mechanisms. Fifa, like i said overlooks their own testing regime. No one was found guilty of anything. That’s what Fifa said.
            Its convenient to cherry pick your sources eh? If Fifa said they doped, that you would believe? Right? As long as its anti Russian its ok.
            No evidence has been shown that Russia state sponsored doping. Going on the word of caught and expelled cheaters is really not good enough.
            Do i think they do it. Probably. But so does the US so does Britain, see cycling team, so does china and so does Jamaica. Asafa powel buddy and training partner to Usain does. Gatlin does, you don’t believe Usain doesn’t? Lance did, no one accused the US of collusion. Look at Phelps, even when he loses, like he clearly did to Cavic. He still wins.

          2. Avatar slavko says:

            You can take your “anti-Russian”accusations and BS and stick it where the sun don’t shine buddy! The fact remains that the russian state is a bunch of thieving cowards that only invade their neighbors, murder and steal their land. The ONLY way that russia can win is by cheating. THAT has been proven repeatedly and in front of the whole world. And after reading your comments here it is quite evident that you are nothing but a troll and not better than the thieving cheating ruskies that you represent. Shame on you a$$hole!

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Whatever.
            I don’t represent Russia. I’ve got my own views. But i don’t like racists. So yeah, whatever, if you wanna justify your racist views. Be my guest. You’re not the only one.
            There’s been no proof of Russians cheating anymore than anyone else. Repeating it more and more. Only turns you into a goebbels clone.
            Im sorry you have a pathology towards Russians. But i am fascinated by a racists mind. It seems when you actually try to talk sense with one, there comes a point you guys lose it. Name calling and projection ensues folowed by vile bigoted vitriol.

          4. Avatar slavko says:

            you are an idiot! “racist” you say… HA!! The fact remains that your russia STEALS, LIES and CHEATS in order to get its way. Try being a Ukrainian or a Crimean Tatar and tell me how it feels after someone kicks you out of your own home.

            And I have no pathology against russians so don’t you even try that sh*t. I have russian friends that are ashamed of their ethnicity after the kremlin and your pooteen invaded and stole the lands of neighbors. THAT is the lowest that a neighbor can be. The Georgians and Moldavians feel the same way. Thanks to your kremlin and pooteen no one trusts russia. Not even the russians themselves. Don’t you find it interesting that the country that was stripped of the most medals was russia? Go on you can really be proud of that record. I’m done with you, now get lost!

          5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Russia is doing what every big power in the world does including the US. No difference.
            Don’t cry crocodile tears about the Tatars. Your only using them for your own pathology for Russia. Just like your faux Russian friends.
            Crimeans voted to become part of Russia. Your bs won’t change that. And i don’t care what small country with a complex hates it. Who really does? What you think the world wants to go to war with Russia because of you? Mate you hyped yourself up too much.
            As for your generalized statement of “most stripped of medals” . Where’s your context? Where, when?
            Buddy you can generalize that every one hates Russia all you like. But in the end your every one is just a crowd of bigoted racists. Calling everyone that doesn’t agree with you colluders and other vile names.
            So some Ukrainians now want to leave Ukraine after the coup. Like Crimea.
            Suck it up pal.

          6. Avatar slavko says:

            There was no coup that is a kremlin myth. It was a russian invasion because poor little boy pooteen couldn’t stomach the idea that Ukraine did not want to be part of his russo-centric earasian economic union.

            And as far as the medals go… the fact remains that russia is the only country to be stripped of the most Olympic medals for cheating. State sponsored cheating. And russian athletes lost 37 Olympic medals… so you guys get tTHE gold in the most Olympic medals lost. You are indeed winners of all the cheaters. Be proud now.

            Everyone also knows that Crimea’s referendum was FORCED upon them by strelkov who represented russia’s interest in Crimea. THAT’S a fact and strelkov also admitted to starting the fake civil war in Donbas. Everyone knows that. But still you krembots insist on lying. Yeah! Suck it up pal!

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Bullets, violence, elected president deposed. Yeah that’s a coup by anyone’s standard.
            Now you’re not in any union. Lol
            The dutch people already voted once not to have you. And the others will too.
            You’re doing great. Who needs an economy. Wasn’t Russia supplying you with cheap gas? Still is. Well let’s just bite that hand. Shall we.
            Ps im not Russian.
            My country is ten times smaller than yours and yet still twenty times more successful. Not only in sports but everything. No wonder the US uses you. Worthless wonders.
            And yeah Crimeans voted. Evidenced by the lack of civil disturbance after they did.
            You guys really made them feel welcome. They had to run to Russia. Makes you think.

          8. Avatar slavko says:

            Amazingly very few agree with your point of view. Makes you think don’t it!

            You promote and defend the kremlin manifesto of invade, rape, murder and annex. That makes you one and the same as those in the kremlin. Fancy that you and pooteen are bros.

            You twist the truth just like a kremlin troll that makes you the same. You spin kremlin fairy tales while a whole nation suffers. You are a disgrace as a human being as you defend such barbaric practices. Cheap gas my a$$. Pooteen was charging Ukraine more than Europe. How does it feel to be a cheap kremlin tampon? Now go flush yourself!!

          9. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Oooh name calling again.
            “Very few agree”. Dude. I know how agree or don’t and i still have my view.
            I don’t support the Kremlin.
            But your quisling leaders lead you into a catastrophe.
            Ukraine is a basket case.
            Got so much after ussr split up and still f it up.

          10. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Nobody ran to RuSSia you effing moron.

          11. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Shut you racist turd

          12. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Suck a tranny, na zi.

          13. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Hahaha
            So clever. You must be proud.

          14. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Keep polishing that tool.

          15. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            The turder is you, trollface.

          16. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Look who’s calling the kettle black?

  10. Avatar Mick Servian says:

    I would like for every racist bigot to hold a moments silence on this site and to connect further with your inner racist scumbag. If you all put on your little fascist tinfoil hats at the same time. Your hate and bile will build up to make you all extremely powerful and then your racist hate alone from every racist on this site will be too much for ze evil evil evil russkies to overcome.
    Be proud, let the hate bring you together, like brothers from different racist bigot mothers.
    Ciao

    1. Avatar Scradje says:

      You are trolling on behalf of the fascist murder regime of the most race-supremacist, chauvinistic country in the world. So fukk off and join your fellow kremnaцi fukkwits on the daily stormer.

      1. Avatar Sania says:

        zombie the durk, how to hard to go on ur smelly paths…

      2. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

        So …. the Troll FINALLY got a “response” I see …. You made his day! 🙂

        It’s that SERBIAN POS most likely ….

        1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

          Oh…that’s right.
          You not only hate Russia. But Serbia, Israel and the list goes on.

      3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Listen to yourselves. Hateful bile is coming out

        1. Avatar Scradje says:

          Go suck on a rat shashlyk, kremnaцi troll vermin.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            See..lol
            More hate full bile

          2. Avatar slavko says:

            No one likes an invader, a liar and a cheater. So you can’t blame him. Blame russia’s pooteen for his not so good neighborly tendencies.

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            So someone else is to blame for absolutely everything? Even your racism?
            You’re funny.

          4. Avatar slavko says:

            and you are still the idiot!! You rape, then murder your neighbor and steal their land and now you complain to be the victim. Truly you are one idiotic a$$hole.

          5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            I what?
            God you’re deluded. Lol
            I haven’t raped or murdered anyone buddy.
            Speak for yourself.
            So deluded.
            Nah you’re the poor racist bigoted victim.
            Poor me, i don’t understand. I hate blacks, jews, russians etc.
            Why doesn’t the world just understand i have a legitimate reason. Hahaha

          6. Avatar slavko says:

            You are the deluded one. When you defend a rapist like the kremlin and pooteen you ARE the rapist. You and your kind have been raping Ukrainians for centuries. Finally Ukraine stood up to the kremlin’s hateful practices. The only bigot AND hypocrite is you. As you claim victimhood after raping an entire nation. The world knows what the kremlin is all about. Do note that China has not accepted kremlin machinations and annexations. Do note that China has refrained from signing future oil and gas contracts with russia. Don’t you wonder why? Or is it that your head is so far up pooteen’s a$$ that you can’t see clearly anymore. Yeah! I think that’s it.

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Oh shut up you imbecile.
            I have not raped anything or anyone. Having an opinion on something doesn’t change that.
            You’re a racist bigot buddy trying to justify your racist shit. Nothing more.
            It’s fing pathetic.
            I don’t care what China has signed with Russia. Oh and its a lot.
            They’re cooperating pretty well.
            Doesn’t change you’re a racist turd pretending to be a victim.

          8. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            Serbians are SCUM, they are MENTAL CASES & RAPISTS & think they have the right to do so because they are the SLAVES of Russians. EVERYBODY HATES THEM….. this is WTF should be done to raping Russians & Serbians — they rape & murder in Ukraine.

            https://www.google.com/search?q=Nevin+Yildirim&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

          9. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Well said. Neo Na zis are not welcome on Euromaidan P.

      4. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Nah i like it here among Ukraines finest fascists

      5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        No im not.
        I don’t care what you say. Your just projecting

    2. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

      Is the animus of Ukrainians toward Russians that you call “racism”? First, it doesn’t fit because it can’t be and isn’t based on race, for both are of the same race. Second, this animosity is based solely on the fact that it is Russia that has invaded Ukraine, stolen part of its territory, and been killing Ukrainians by thousands – the same feeling the Russians had toward the Germans in 1941-45 and the Americans had toward the Japanese after the Pearl Harbor. Third, it is the Russians who for centuries have treated the Ukrainians as untermenschen, banned their language, mocked their culture, denied the existence of the Ukrainians as an ethnos – and continue to do all those things (except that they are powerless to ban or perverse the language now) to this day. Looks to me as though the feelings of the Ukrainians are more than well justified.

      In spite of that, all the recent polls in Russia and Ukraine indicate that the Russians hate the Ukrainians much more than the other way around, as if it’s Ukraine that has invaded Russia, etc. And since you’ve pontificated here rather profusely on the Ukrainian bigotry you allege, try any Russian online forum where they discuss Ukrainian affairs to find out how real bigotry and chauvinism sound like. Can’t read Russian? Try any talk show aired on official Russian government channels (you can find plenty subtitled on YT) and take a look at what comes out of the mouths of the invited “experts” in the direction of both Ukraine and the Ukrainians.

      1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Actually what comes out is more pale than this. True Russia has racists too. But this site takes the cake.
        You might be of similar ethnicity. Even though most on here contest that, calling Russians mongols. But race is another thing. Go look it up.
        What ive seen on Russian sites shows way more respect than this site. Sure it’s mostly negative towards Ukraines leaders. But not Ukrainians. This site is openly anti Russian. Ive never read a Russian article saying we need to reeducate the Ukrainian populace. Also whatever is said is actually factual( that’s why it’s working) whereas this site is full of wishful thinking faux news.
        I don’t know what trouble you had pre ussr. But during you didn’t endur anymore hardship than anyone else including Russians. Stalin wasn’t Russian.
        That’s what Croatia told the world too. So just being the junior partner means you’re oppressed? Be real?
        If that was so, you wouldn’t have got a single factory after the collapse. But you ended up with heaps.
        Which incidentally now don’t exist anymore.
        And they shouldn’t. Being less than baby partner to the west means they’ll provide you with everything. All you have to provide is cheap economic migrants.

        1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

          “You might be of similar ethnicity”. You don’t know my ethnicity.
          “Even though most on here contest that…”. Contest what?
          “But race is another thing. Go look it up”. I have. Have you?
          “What ive seen on Russian sites…”. What you’ve seen is statistically meaningless.
          “Ive never read a Russian article saying…”. Ditto.
          “Also whatever is said is actually factual”. How have you discovered that?
          “I don’t know what trouble you had pre ussr”. ‘There are many things in heaven and earth…’
          “But during you didn’t endur anymore hardship than anyone else including Russians”. You’re simply utterly ignorant of what the Ukrainians have endured next to the Russians, let alone thanks to the Russians.
          “Stalin wasn’t Russian”. Has nothing to do with anything in question. But note that in the recent poll, the Russians have reported that they revere him as the greatest historical figure of all time.

          The rest of the gibberish is not worth commenting on. Lastly, if you want to get the real picture of the rift between Russia and Ukraine, learn Russian and Ukrainian and read original sources.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Yeah sure. I don’t know your ethnicity.
            But i was referring to Russians and Ukrainians.
            What do your fellow racist brethren on here contest? Well that they’re of the same race?
            Isn’t that why they call Russians mongols on here. Im guessing compared to Ukraine’s clean aryan heritage.
            What’s ditto? That this site is openly racist? Something you don’t notice on Russian sites.
            Also I’ve noticed they’re factual by living in a few areas that they reported on. And found them to be correct. Way more than msm. This site is just faux bs so can’t even be compared.
            “There are many things in heaven and earth”…lol what a silly statement dude, i don’t care about Ukraines Russia complex.
            Both were part of the USSR, both share responsibilities. Russia had its royals and citizens killed of and Ukraine couldn’t become Hitler’s bitch. Even though it badly wanted to.
            All you’re doing is revising history. Because you don’t like yours. Cry me a river.
            And Russians admiring Stalin doesn’t make him Russian.
            It just makes Russians prouder of their history. Probably cause they didnt want a puppet state under Hitler.
            I don’t need to learn your lingo to read books about you guys.

          2. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            “Isn’t that why they call Russians mongols on here”. It’s pretty mild, actually: Mongols are people. Calling the Russian mongols is merely an indication that they aren’t really Slavs by origin, which is entirely true. Russians call Ukrainians non-humans, untermenschen, non-people.

            “Im guessing compared to Ukraine’s clean aryan heritage”. You’re guessing wrong. It was the Russians – on the highest state level in Duma – who have declared that they are an Aryan race having descended from the Carpatians.

            “What’s ditto?” Ditto that if you “never read a Russian article saying…” it doesn’t mean that you’ve seen enough of them to make a meaningful inference.

            “Also I’ve noticed they’re factual by living in a few areas that they reported on. And found them to be correct”. Specifically, what areas? Do “a few” impress you as enough to draw conclusions based on being there without being able to even communicate with the populace in their language?

            ‘”There are many things in heaven and earth”…lol what a silly statement dude’. ‘There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, / Than are dreamt of in your philosophy’. Nuff said?

            “Ukraine couldn’t become Hitler’s bitch. Even though it badly wanted to”. What Russian site have you derived that nonsense from?

            “All you’re doing is revising history”. You who? Facts, events, dates?

            “And Russians admiring Stalin doesn’t make him Russian”. Who said it does?

            “It just makes Russians prouder of their history”. Admiring Stalin, who has killed more Russians than anyone else, makes the Russians prouder of their history? If there existed any more perverse pride than that, I want to know what it is.

            “Probably cause they didnt want a puppet state under Hitler”. You don’t realize you’re speculating, do you? Hadn’t Stalin and Hitler been bosom buddies before June 22, 1941? Didn’t they split Poland amicably and held a joint parade to celebrate it in Brest, eh?

            “I don’t need to learn your lingo to read books about you guys”. You can’t learn much about “us guys” without knowing our language any more than one can learn much about the US or UK without knowing English.

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Yeah dude.
            Refering generally to all Russian as f ing mongols is not racist at all. Not at all.
            Justifying your racist crap must be a sport with you.
            And no, ive never heard of Russian sites call Ukrainians anything like that. Id freely admit if i did.
            As for how many places I’ve been to in the world and how many languages i speak not your expertise. Best guess is, i speak 3 more than you. If you’re bilingual. Which im assuming you are. Probably 4. And have been to many countries.
            When you talk about things you pretend have happened as opposed to the way history books say they did. Then you’re making stuff up.
            Dude that whole justifying racism is probably lower than the racism itself.
            No wonder the Dutch voted no.
            Anyway till next month or so.
            Tooodeloo.

          4. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            >As for how many places I’ve been to in the world and how many languages i speak not your expertise.If you’re bilingual. Which im assuming you are.<

            Our discussion thus far should've given you a pretty clear idea that I must be fluent in U and R – and you assume I’m bilingual? Well, if English doesn’t count. But even if it didn’t, you’d still be wrong. If you speak many languages, good for you – the more, the better, no matter how many more than I do. But within the subject of the conversation it’s only the knowledge of U and R that counts.

          5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Oh my god.
            Yeah you did. You said “which areas”. Thats inquiring about it.
            And again i have to mind read that you speak Russian?
            But i have to clear something up here. U and R don’t count dude. Very similar language. By that logic i speak 10 languages.
            And no its not only U and R that count. Russia reports on many corners of the world in many lingos.
            So when they report factually in Germany and Brazil. Or South Korea. Then im giving them the benefit of the doubt on Ukraine. I keep in mind though it will be pro Russia though. Just like bbc is pro brittish.

          6. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            >U and R don’t count dude. Very similar language.Russia reports on many corners of the world in many lingos.<

            More exactly, Russia lies on many corners of the world in many lingos – the only reason the Russians engage in this “reporting” exercise and spend beaucoup money on it.

            p.s. Don’t know what “brittish” is. Is it a form of “brittle”?

          7. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            Disecting & bisecting that stupid PRETENTIOUS Serbian monhol wannabe eh? 🙂

            We have rather similar styles when we are sufficiently annoyed I’ve noticed.
            Esp. when it is by a PRETENTIOUS no less, moron.

            Nothing like using THEIR own words.
            It’s that final twist, as it were, during the insertion
            Revenge truly IS a dish best had cold indeed.

          8. Avatar slavko says:

            You really are a dumbass! 🙂

          9. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Thanks mate.
            Awesome name calling there.

          10. Avatar slavko says:

            This is just for you and Muscovy’s Pooteen with much love from all Ukrainians. As you can see it’s very relaxed with much laughter indicating a solidarity. Please enjoy and do join us in song. 😉

            If you need a translation I will be very happy to oblige.

          11. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Whatever dude.
            Like racist bigots don’t get together and laugh. Lol

          12. Avatar slavko says:

            You seem to be so eager to point fingers at the victims of Russian aggression without posting supporting documentation. You must be on Putin’s payroll… that or just a dumb a$$.

            Now here’s my support against your baseless accusation: “Like racist bigots don’t get together and laugh. Lol” THAT IS what you said.

            Now be responsible and support that statement especially in consideration that Ukrainians and Russians are of the same race. Now you see how much of a dumb a$$ you are? Then you use the word “bigot” yet you have NOT said anything to be intolerant of as all of your comments are merely baseless accusations. Everything that I have said to you is documented. Again, you remain a dumb a$$. 🙂 It is up to you to educate yourself. Don’t be lazy or misguided.

          13. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Whatever man.
            People can judge for themselves.
            Many racist comments about Russians being mongol invaders on here.
            Nothing you said. Just like post is documented anywhere.
            If you’re so ashamed of you and yout friends racist remarks. Why say them in the first place?
            It’s what i expected. You guys must have a tough time hiding your true selves whenever you visit the west. How dad.
            Support? What? Its there for all to see. The constant race hate comments by your peers.
            Ps. The KKK also had nice sing alongs at times. And misguided families supporting them.
            Still makes them scum.

          14. Avatar slavko says:

            You keep coming back. Amazing! Troll pay either that good or that desperate. Again you seem to lack understanding of the word “racist”. You also lack the understanding that it is Russia that invaded Ukraine. If you could just extract your head out of Putin’s a$$ and see for yourself the world around you it would be enlightening. Instead you continue defending the oppressor. You see Ukraine is a very small country compared to Russia. So is Georgia and Moldavia. Yet Putin has picked on theme and has created a lot of suffering among Russia’s neighbors. There’s a very basic rule that everyone should learn and that is don’t sh*t where you eat and don’t sh*t in the neighbor’s yard either if you want good relations.

          15. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Anyway don’t bother replying. Youre blocked. Like all the other racist turd lying and justifying it.

          16. Avatar slavko says:

            Wonderful. This means I don’t have to see your bigoted and ignorant of the world’s current events remarks. Thank you!

            Btw I also want to thank you for bringing more attention to this site. This helps the Ukrainian cause quite a bit. Thanks again. 🙂

          17. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            ” don’t need to learn your lingo to read books about you guys.”

            What books HAVE you read exactly? 🙂

            ….moron….. Serbian mental case omn medication & NOTHING to do except to suck Ruski dicks —- FOR FREE!!! :))

          18. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            Well said. I think you have accurately zeroed in on this troll.

      2. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

        “for both are of the same race” — not quite, not quite old boy!

        My DNA strands are much, much finer than that of a Russo-mongolian, please be assured! 🙂

        But I’ll ‘allow” for such in the heat of your being both provoked & attacked by that IGNORANT POS scumbag.

        Few things are as galling as an OBNOXIOUS AND PRETENTIOUS ignorant buffoon!

        1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

          Well, it depends on how the races are classified. I only meant that both are of the Caucasian type … more or less.

          1. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            “Well, it depends on how the races are classified.”

            NO!

            ” I only meant that both are of the Caucasian type … more or less.”

            Actually, that is **NOT** correct — ABSOLUTELY and NOT “more or less”.

            A “race” is defined by genetic frequency.
            Very simple, is it not?

            Finns (the ORIGINALS AS IN OLD DAYS — PRE-WHITE INVASIONS) & Ugrics — along with the other burrowing, hole digging & living inside savages — are what we call today, RUSSO-MONGOLIANS!! Of course, there was the additional influx of Mongols (“Monhols” is more correct!) & additional nomadic, unwashed Asiatic savages from Siberia.

            A most motley & unpleasant collection of ne’er–do–wells..

            So through this most unwholesome [email protected], smeary mix of unChristian, heated drunken fornications — we now arrive at what we today call “Russians”. — FEH!!! —- PLU-YOU!

          2. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Well, if you say so – I’m far from being a race taxonomist ;).

          3. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            It’s INTERESTING!!!

            I’ve crushed a LOT of Ruski trolls accusing me of being like them racially!
            That is TOTALLY DISGUSTING!!!
            An INSULT!!!

            At times they most STUPIDLY attempt to even use (ahem!) “genetics”! 😉
            Since when do they tell the truth?

            Thus, even in olden Tsarist times, they claimed that during the Mongol invasion, all (or most) of the Ukes moved NORTH! 😉

            They HAD to try & claim such, because otherwise, there ain’t NO SLAVS THERE!!

            NovHorod was … BUT … Ivan Grozny (“Ivan the Terrible” — bad trans. I know)
            KILLED EVERY SINGLE MAN, WOMAN & CHILD there…. an “alien race” by Russian standards… besides a possible threat — AND AN ALIEN RACE… but repeat myself.

            So that’s ALSO why some Ruski LIE & TRY (& fail!) to claim Ruski are Slavs — VIA NovHorod. But that doesn’t work you see!

            Very little Slavic blood in those sh*ts you see … and THAT — bothers them. :)))

            After all, the ARROGANCE of thinking they are as fine & as refined as us!
            Those SWINE!!! — PLU-YOU!!!

          4. Avatar Andrew Chmile says:

            VERY important to have an idea of taxonomy!

            For it gives you the parameters of things …. of it’s nature & morals!
            So being a “taxonomist” — esp. as regards Russo-mongolians — is USEFUL!

            —————– on another note:

            (actually he’s in the US ): Oleksandr Potiekhin

            Per his Facebook — my FB “buddy”:

            Major Researcher at National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine

            Former Diplomat at Міністерство закордонних справ України / MFA of Ukraine

            Worked at Embassy of Ukraine in the USA / Посольство України в США

            Lives in Kyiv, Ukraine

            From Odessa, Ukraine

            Wrote the below — I read the translation of course! 🙂

            Oleksandr Potiekhin

            28 mins ·

            Дмитрий Быков

            Вот левадовский опрос. Это главный летний вброс. Впереди товарищ Сталин
            в белом венчике из роз. Он немного впереди, а немного позади Путин с
            Пушкиным на пару, каждый с бантом на груди. Три святых величины, три
            хранителя страны — разбегаются соседи, умиляются скины! Едут три
            богатыря, в чешуе, как жар горя, и народ богохранимый афоризмами даря — в
            орденах и образках, с сединою на висках, федералы, генералы, каждый в
            собственных войсках (Пушкин тоже генерал: он от пули умирал и военную карьеру многократно примерял).

            Едет Сталин на коне в благородной седине — по мечтам о русском праве,
            по державе и по мне. Едет Пушкин на коне в звонком ямбе, как в броне, с
            «Бородинской годовщиной» и с «Евгением Оне…» Едет Путин на коне — чисто
            всадник Фальконе, но с Медведевым под мышкой и с Песковым на ремне. Едут
            трое в кураже на последнем рубеже — то ли новая триада, то ли троица
            уже: знак эпохи испитой под названием «отстой», Сталин — папа, Путин —
            сына, Пушкин типа Дух святой. Это наш, на всех един, сувенирный магазин —
            «Спор славян между собою» (с долей негров и грузин). Сталин, кстати,
            был поэт. Пушкин — тоже. Путин — нет. Впрочем, может, тоже пишет и
            сливает в интернет?
            В тридевятые края едут три самурая; в этой
            доблестной триаде роль у каждого своя. Сталин страху задает, словно
            бешеный койот; Путин смертный сон наводит, Пушкин песенки поет. Пушкин —
            светлый русский дух, Сталин — наша птица Рух, Путин — то ли вырожденье,
            то ли синтез этих двух. Пушкин создал, чуть возник, нашу вольность и
            язык, Сталин это все угробил, Путин памятник воздвиг. Пушкин — дерзкий
            наш Приап, Сталин — мерзкий наш сатрап, ну а Путин, как ни крутим, —
            окончательный этап. Это русский наш проект, а точней, его конспект, но
            какой-то в нем таился огорчительный дефект. Семь веков, как семь колец.
            Тонут кормщик и пловец, и какой печальной тройкой все накрылось наконец!

            …Пушкин вертится в гробу, Сталин шепчет: «Я гребу», а полезно и приятно
            лишь галерному рабу. Это главный наш итог, окончательный виток перед
            полным превращеньем в запыленный закуток. Это русская судьба —
            триединство и борьба сочинителя, тирана и галерного раба. Это
            блоковская, та роковая пустота — три российских аватара, сокращенно
            ПуПуСта.

            Dmitry Bulls

            Here’s the poll. This is the main summer circumvents. In front of
            comrade Stalin in a white rose of roses. He’s a little ahead and a
            little behind Putin with a pair of bows, each with a bow on his chest.
            Three Holy values, three custodian of the country – it neighbors,
            umilyayutsya skins! There are three warriors, in scaly, like the heat of
            grief, and the people of bogokhranimyy aphorisms the – in decorated and
            obrazkakh, with creates on temples, the feds, Generals, each in their
            own troops (Pushkin also general: he from a bullet died and a military
            career repeatedly fitted) (chuckles)
            Stalin is on his horse in a
            noble sedine – on dreams of Russian law, by power and by me. Pushkin
            rides on his horse in a wake-up call, as in armor, with the ”
            Borodinskaïa Anniversary ” and with ” Eugene they…” Putin’s on his
            horse – a purely rider of falcone, but with medvedev under his arm and
            with a belt on his belt There are three of them in bravery on the last
            line – whether the new triad, whether the trinity is already: Sign of
            the era of ispitoy called “suck”, stalin – dad, Putin – son, Pushkin
            Type Holy Spirit. This is our one, the gift shop, the “dispute between
            the slavs” (with the share of negroes and georgians). Stalin was a poet,
            by the way. Pushkin, too. Putin is not. Maybe he also writes and feeds
            on the internet.
            There are three samurai in the tridevyatyye of the
            krai; in this valiant, they have a role to play. Stalin is afraid, like a
            rabid coyote; Putin is a mortal dream. Pushkin is a bright Russian
            Spirit, Stalin is our bird rukh, Putin is whether or not the synthesis
            of these two. Pushkin created, a little bit, our liberty and tongue,
            Stalin all killed, Putin built the monument. Pushkin – brash our
            priapus, Stalin is an abomination of our satrap, but Putin, as a around,
            is the final stage. It’s a Russian project, and,, his notes, but some
            of it is a defective disappointing defect. Seven Centuries, like seven
            rings. The drowning and the swimmer are drowning, and what a sad three!

            ‘ Pushkin is spinning in a coffin, Stalin whispers: ‘ I am paddle ‘,
            and it is good and pleasant to only a galley slave. This is our final
            outcome, the final round before the full prevrashchenʹyem in the
            zapylennyy. It is a Russian destiny – the and the struggle of writer, a
            tyrant and a slave slave. This is blokovskaya, that fatal emptiness –
            three Russian Avatar, short for pupusta.

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        2. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

          LOL.

      3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Hey.
        Now you know we dont like whataboutism on here.
        Ps its racism mate. You can try to call it animus and justify it. But it is what it is.
        Oh and have been to Russian sites. Some bigots but nothing like here.

        1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

          If you burglarized my house and killed my dog and I disliked you for that, it’d be not racism but animus for good reason. What the U’s feel towards the R’s is no different.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            It doesn’t work like that. You can be angry with Kremlin. But not Russians.
            Besides the politics is complicated.
            If i was told by a gangster from another town that with his help i could easily get it over the local hoodlum. And then sell the other dudes stuff in the area easily without repercussions.
            And then i get my backside handed to me by the local. With only peripheral help from the out of towner.
            Im to blame. Not the outsider. He had to try. And not the local. He had to defend his own.
            That’s how ancient Roman politics worked and it’s how it works today.
            Funny how Georgia tried the same thing. Funded by the out of towner.
            You know something is wrong when a guy just waltzes into a ministerial position from nothing. Having had no previous ties to Ukraine.
            Talk about corruption

          2. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            None of which has anything to do with race versus animus.

          3. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            What do you mean?
            You cant dismiss racism because you think you have a valid reason.
            What?
            In what world?

          4. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            In the real world. You don’t dislike a person who’s done unprovoked harm to you because of his race but because he’s done harm to you.

          5. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            In the real world people hate you because of your race. Many people, myself included have experienced it.
            Is that a novel concept to you?
            What has some Russian ever done to you personally by the way?
            By your logic i have a right to call all Ukrainians turds because one broke into my house once.
            Yeah not racist at all. It’s just animus. Completely harmless and justified. Not. lol

          6. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            >i have a right to call all Ukrainians turds because one broke into my house once.<

            No, you don't. But if your house has been broken into 100 times and 99 times out of those the breakers were Ukrainians, you'd have have all the right to call them turds. Catching the drift?

          7. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Whatever man.
            Your just a moron trying to fit your retarded logic in everywhere.
            Why didn’t you say that in the first place? Oh wait. I know.
            Racism is racism. And its not ok. No amount of your stupid logic can make it ok.
            I guess you have to experience it. The real stuff. Not be the one dishing it out.
            Besides. No one broke into your house anyway. Someone wants to leave and Ukraine is like an abusive partner not letting the other go.
            Those Ukrainians in the east are in their homes. And they want to leave. Why not let them?
            Look Crimeans don’t care anymore. They’ve moved on and don’t harp on about Ukraine.
            You do. Like a sick puppy.
            Oh what. You didn’t think you could keep the base and the on sell it? Did you?
            Yeah that’s why Crimeans left.
            You care about them like you care about the impoverished Russians or Chechnyans or Kazakhs etc on this site.
            Only for a landgrab and to stir ethnic conflicts. Pathetic
            You’re so nationalisticly driven. That you scream out how much better your country, culture, language etc than the Russians. To every poor person that stops.
            You’re not the only Ukrainian with an identity crisis. I’ve heard many other ramblings. How sad.
            I’ve never heard a Russian mention Ukraine. They don’t say they’re better or worse.
            They just don’t say anything.
            Pretending you’re a victim while spouting racist vitriol is a bit rich.
            Comparing what’s happening to 99 break ins out of a hundred. So you can justify your racism is retarded.
            It’s not the 90’s. No one cares here in the west. You brought down a plane full of westerners and barely a ripple registered.

      4. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        Hahaha
        Sure mate
        Racism is ok….because you have a really really really good reason.
        A whaaattt???

        1. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

          Racism is disgusting. But crying “racism!” where is none is almost equally bad. Those who do that are called “race-baiters” for good reason.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Go look at all the racist posts on here.

          2. Avatar Oknemfrod says:

            Go look at all your race-baiting posts on here.

    3. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

      LOL. The fascist Putinoid with the shiny swastika calls other posters racist bigots.

      1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        What shiny swastika now?
        You’ve resorted to making shit up now? Eh?

        1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

          You are a na zi.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Says the racist

      2. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        And yeah you are a racist bigot.
        Note how my comments don’t include anything concerning race.
        And apart from calling you out for what you are. How i don’t insult.

        1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

          Bahahahahahahahaaaaaa. Suck a rat.

          1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

            Lol

    4. Avatar slavko says:

      There’s no hate buddy…. just a response to russian aggression you dumb shit!

      1. Avatar Mick Servian says:

        What?
        This place is overflowing with hateful racist bigots.