Why compare the Holodomor and the Holocaust

Philippe de Lara in Dnipropetrovsk Ye book store on 25 April 2016, photo by RFE/RL  

History, International, More, Ukraine

A French philosopher, political expert and Professor at the Paris II Panthéon Assas University Mr. Philippe de Lara visited Ukraine to present his research about genocide. The meeting with researcher was arranged in Dnipropetrovsk by Alliance Française and involved local students, historians and culture experts – below is a summary of key points of their three hour discussion.

Professor Philippe de Lara gave a lecture about the unique nature of the two genocides:  the Holocaust as a crime against the Jewish people and the Holodomor as a crime against the Ukrainian people. The Kremlin intended Holodomor to become Ukraine’s Holocaust, de Lara believes.

Although according to the Professor, the widespread opinion in the West is that these two tragedies are incomparable just as one cannot measure misfortunes of one people against misfortunes of another people. However, Philippe de Lara believes such comparison is appropriate. Despite the criticism, Professor believes that although the two genocides are unique, they may and should be compared, because they have much in common. In particular, both were committed by totalitarian regimes and left deep scars in each of the people’s history.

Ukrainian genocide is unique because of its scale and the time period of its denial of almost 60 years

Nonetheless, the French researcher also noted the fundamental differences between the Holodomor of the 30s and the Holocaust of the 40s: the Holodomor’s main goal was mental suppression, rather than physical extermination, of the Ukrainian people in order to facilitate forcible sovietization and russification, while the Holocaust attempted to exterminate the whole nation as such.

Thus, the genocide of the Jews is unique in its purpose – to erase the whole nation and in its scale – more than 50% of the Jewish population was liquidated. [Editorial note: according to the Jewish Virtual Library, this figure may be up to 67%].

What makes the Ukrainian genocide unique is its scope and time period of its denial of almost 60 years. Albeit the Holodomor’s purpose was not to kill all the people, but to exterminate enough people to wipe out the people’s soul and identity; the intention was not just to eliminate the peasants’ opposition, but to undermine the Ukrainians as a nation. The Soviet leaders knew their job well.

The majority of Jewish population on the territory of Ukraine was killed openly on the spot

There is also a great difference in how the Ukrainian society experienced the Holocaust, which is incomparable to the experience of the societies in France, Netherlands and even Poland. While the symbol of the Holocaust in Europe are trains and concentration camps where the Jews were exterminated secretly, the majority of Jewish population on the territory of Ukraine was killed openly on the spot, almost in front of their neighbors’ and friends’ eyes. This is also what made saving of Jews in Ukraine close to heroic considering the risk involved.

Millions of people were forced to live in this silence and lies. … It is time to give up the double standard of oblivion applicable to the crimes committed by the Soviet society.  – Philippe de Lara.

After 1945 remembrance of the two genocides in Western and Eastern Europe was split by the ‘iron curtain’ and differs greatly. One could openly discuss and write about both in the West, while on the Soviet territories the truth about the two national tragedies was distorted and concealed. The short wording used by the Soviet historians “civilians killed by the fascists” covered up the information about the Jews extermination.

Holodomor and the “Stockholm syndrome”?

The discussion also touched the issue of the “Stockholm syndrome”, which was brought up by the cultural studies expert Iryna Reva who researched the cultural and psychological consequences of the Holodomor for the Ukrainian nation in her book ‘On the Other Side of Oneself’.

In particular, according to Iryna Reva the behavior of the Ukrainians who survived the 30s of the past century demonstrated signs of the “Stockholm syndrome” – when the victim feels sympathetic towards the aggressor.

“I came across this myself when I worked in a newspaper, a former communist newspaper, and the part of the elderly readers always used to criticize my materials about Ukraine’s history. However, around 2003 when there was a commemoration of the Holodomor these same people started writing letters to our newspaper asking to “write down their memoirs.” So, I documented things.

And there was one thing in common: the people were telling about horrible things, how there was not enough food, how they ate snails because there was nothing else to eat. And after all of that the person would usually summarize: it was nobody’s fault, it was a poor harvest, at least we used to have order with Stalin, we really need Stalin now. I found it striking. I believe such dual perception should at least to some extent be attributed to the “Stockholm syndrome”, Iryna Reva pointed out.

“Red fascists” and “brown communists”

A representative of the Jewish community among the guests invited to discussion, the Director of Holocaust History Museum in Dnipropetrovsk, Ihor Shchupak believes there is a great demand for such research. According to Ihor Shchupak, there are attempts at his museum at the least to draw certain parallels between genocides of different years. In addition, there is also interest in human fates: there are records in the Museum about Jews who helped Ukrainians survive during the Holodomor and about Ukrainians who saved Jews during the [WWII] war times.


“We need such efforts of comparative studies of historical events and phenomena, especially such complex ones as the Holodomor and the Holocaust. Of course, every genocide has its specific features and is unique. However, every instance of genocide is a universal phenomenon with its essence being the extermination of human life and its causes of occurrence – totalitarian regimes and similar.

Such attempts are very productive and important, because they help us realize that if we want to grasp some phenomenon, we need to broaden its context. Both the Holodomor and the Holocaust emerged through similar totalitarian regimes.

Despite the fact that communists and fascists insisted on being separate movements, the people whose fates have crossed fascism and totalitarianism, call fascists the “brown communists,” and communists – the “red fascists,” Ihor Shchupak commented for Radio Liberty.

Philippe de Lara is a French philosopher, political expert and the Professor at the Paris II Panthéon Assas University; he teaches political studies and runs the Modernity and Totalitarianism research programme. One of his books: Humanism Exercises, Conversation with Vincent Descombes, 2014 (Exercices d’humanité, conversation avec Vincent Descombes, Les Petits Platons, 2014).


Translated by: Svitlana Skob

Source: Andreistp’s Live Journal

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  1. Avatar W8post says:

    that’s a stupid headline, because the Holodomor was BEFORE the Holocaust. In other words, one cannot refer to something what does not exist. [at the time].

    1. Avatar Rascalndear says:

      Your comment is both rude and ignorant. Of course the headline refers to nowadays, when both events are decades in the past. This is about comparative history and its purposes for people today. Do you even understand that that means?

      1. Avatar Roman Serbyn says:

        Maybe if commenting were limited to people who use real identities, then they would be more careful with what they write. I can never understand why in a free society people are reluctant to use their real names.

        1. Avatar Rascalndear says:

          My handle here is a hangover from the January 16, 2014 laws when many people worried about being arrested for writing in social nets about the situation in Ukraine. It was not exactly a free society then.

        2. Avatar dcmining says:

          you cant criticize the jews openly, because they are our masters.

          1. Avatar Bloemberg says:

            Please describe how the “jews” are your masters in Ukraine – or anywhere else, for that matter. Last time we all looked at WWII, “jews” were mostly slaves of the Nazis – at least, those who were still alive. Apparently, that was the biggest mistake the Nazis made – not finishing off the “jews” for good. Well, it seems there is no shortage of others willing to finish the job Hitler had started.

  2. Avatar Roman Serbyn says:

    Is there a video of this interesting lecture? Comparative history is always interesting and rewarding. Yes, there is much that is similar and much different in the two genocides. What was the same in the two was the genocidaires’ intention to destroy the two peoples “in whole” and “as such” (to use the vocabulary of the Genocide Convention. Of course, Hitler and Stalin could destroy only those that they had under their control, which excluded all the Ukrainians outside the USSR and the Jews outside the reach of rule of Nazi Germany). The difference in destruction was that Hitler proceeded by physical annihilation, while Stalin combined physical extermination (starvation was the main means, but also execution, deportation, etc.) with denationalization (what de Lara calls the wiping off the people’s soul and identity), in order to destroy the Ukrainian nation, i.e. a political entity that was becoming a threat to the integrity of Kremlin’s empire.

    1. Avatar Bloemberg says:

      There were more similarities between these two genocides than are generally realized. In the case of Nazi Germany, there was a campaign long before WWII began to evict Jews from Germany. The Nuremberg Laws passed in 1935 stripped German Jews of their civil rights and even their German citizenship, even those with roots in Germany from Roman Empire times. Jews with professional licenses could not renew them. Jewish teachers were prohibited from teaching non-Jewish students. Jews were prohibited from owning weapons, cars and radios, and were forbidden to use public transportation or even to defend themselves in the law courts. Propaganda films showed images of sewer rats, referring to Jews as “vermin”. This is the dehumanization phase, the fourth of “The Ten Stages of Genocide” identified by Dr. Gregory Stanton of the organization Genocide Watch. It’s well documented that Hitler even encouraged some of them to migrate to Palestine, and failed attempts were made to deport Jews to other countries like Uganda and Madagascar. Most of the Jews became refugees. The prevailing slogan was “Juden raus” (Jews out). Before the Holocaust began there was destruction as well. In November 1938 there were nationwide organized mass pogroms launched by the Nazis, collectively referred to as Reichskristallnacht, involving 91 acknowledged murders (the actual number is probably a multiple of that), the transportation over more than 20,000 Jewish men to concentration camps, the burning of almost 1,000 synagogues (over 260 totally destroyed), and the ransacking of Jewish businesses. As a result, almost 60% of Germany’s and Austria’s Jews fled to other countries even before Germany invaded Poland in September 1939.

      1. Avatar Roman Serbyn says:

        Yes, there were many similarities between the Holocaust and the Holodomor, but the expulsion policies against the Jews that you describe are not among the ones that were common to two genocides.

  3. Avatar Rascalndear says:

    A small point: wipe off means почистити while wipe out means винищити.