73 attacks, Avdiivka under shelling again, OSCE reports more ceasefire violations

Governor of Donetsk Oblast Pavlo Zhebrivskyi inspects the aftermath of February 17 evening shelling of Avdiivka. Credit: FB Zhebrivskyi 

More, War in the Donbas

In this series, we are teaming up with the tireless social media activist who goes by English Luhansk on twitter to produce open source updates about the military situation in Donbas. We analyze reports from Donbas local twitter accounts and translate it into a comprehensive overview of what’s going on on the ground. Yesterday’s digest can be found here: Avdiivka under attack, 1 civilian killed. 3 soldiers KIA, 10 WIA. Poroshenko urges to end blockade

February 17 was déjà vu of February 16 for the residents of Avdiivka and Donetsk. It was almost a quiet day along the entire frontline in the Donbas, only separate sporadic outbursts of military activity broke the silence. As always, the vicinity of Donetsk was an exception to the general rule, the same everyday scenario of pointless harassing fire with its evening escalation was applied here by the Russian-backed forces. During this “ordinary” evening battle, residential neighborhoods of government-controlled Avdiivka came under shelling as a day before. This time no civilians have been killed, but two young men got injured.

From the morning until dinner time several separate explosions were heard in Donetsk and Makiivka (all time EET, GMT+2 unless noted otherwise):

08:02 Volnovakha: A strong single ka-boom
09:54 Makiivka: Plume of smoke rises in the direction of Mineralne
11:20 Makiivka: Radyanskyi district has felt an explosion, houses vibrated
11:24 Makiivka: Something has blown up
12:15 Donetsk Scheglovka: Loud salvos, windows tremble
12:17 Donetsk Kalininskyi district: A dull double boom, north?
12:17 Makiivka: Periodically, once each 10-15 min, decent booms are heard
12:19 Makiivka: I didn’t hear [booms] before, have heard just now, it was quiet before
12:20 Horlivka Stroitel: Southwest: strong blast wave came, and another after it
12:27 Yenakiieve: Another blast at the range
12:32 Donetsk: One more strong ka-boom, more of its wave than sound
13:18 Donetsk Kyivskyi ds: It has boomed somewhere far away, barely tangible wave came. Makiivka or what?
13:18 Makiivka: It has boomed far off

Some of the explosions heard in Donetsk, Makiivka and Yasynuvata could be tests
by MakNII (Makiivka Research Institute for Mining Safety), which were announced by local “authorities” in advance:

February 16-18, 20-22 and from February 27 to March 3 from 9:00 to 15:00 [MSK, GMT+3] industrial explosives are to be tested on the premises of MakNII for their approval for underground use at the DNR coal mines

Another afternoon pause, and the evening begins:

16:48 Donetsk: Peace over. Booms in the north
16:50 Makiivka: Very active booms and shooting in the direction of YakovlivkaMineralne
16:50 Makiivka: “Outgoing rounds start”
16:51 Avdiivka: “It has begun [=another shelling]”
16:53 Donetsk Petrovka: We’re listening to heavy booms from the north
16:55 Donetsk: “Botanic garden listens to the northwest from Gvardeyka to Putilovka”
16:55 Donetsk: “Durna_Balka: booms started in the northwest” “Avtomagazin hears salvos
16:55 Donetsk downtown: Powerful booms, windows vibrate
16:55 Donetsk: “DonetskMakiivka: “Bastards have already started outgoing fire”
16:55 Makiivka Gvardeyka: It rumbles, single frequent ones
16:55 Donetsk Kalininskyi district: Not quiet anymore, frequent dull double booms
16:56 Makiivka: YaBP, Promka: a series of incoming rounds have started
16:57 [Donetsk?]: Tanks are shelling towards Promzone
16:58 Makiivka Cheryomushki: North: Frequent, poweful, dull
17:00 Donetsk: From Durna_Balka direction, heavy outgoing fire
17:00 Avdiivka: It becomes louder
17:04 Donetsk Proletarskyi district: Since 16:48 we’re listening to double booms from the north
17:05 Makiivka Vostochnyi: The darkness hasn’t fallen yet, and single loud booms start. The west, Donetsk bypass
17:05 Donetsk: Very strong single artillery salvos
17:08 Avdiivka area UA positions: “Separs’ [=separatists’] tank near Vasylivka is shelling towards us. But it sits between homes and close to waterworks”

Avdiivka is being shelled once again:

17:12 Makiivka: Yes, it rumbles capitally. Outgoing. Heavy. Windows and doors are shaking
17:13 Makiivka: “What’s going on? Impacts? loud”
17:18 Makiivka: “Yakovlivka– Donetsk bypass (Vodopad): they are shelling in full swing [from there]”
17:19 Avdiivka: Town’s old part is rushing to basements
17:22 Avdiivka: Reportedly, an impact on Yuvileynyi
17:24 Avdiivka: Again [imapcts] at the town – #8, Yuvileynyi
17:25 Donetsk: From some place behind Gvardeyka they shell powerfully, maybe [towards] YaBP
17:29 Donetsk: Avdiivka is being shelled from YakovlivkaMinralne right now
17:30 Avdiivka: Power down in the town’s old part, at Khimik settlement it just blinked. Again neighborhoods under shelling
17:32 Horlivka: It’s been a long time since windows clinked [like now]. Outgoing fire
17:37 Avdiivka [Zhebrivskyi:] Avdiivka has been shelled again. Explosions were heard in Khimik area
17:40 Horlivka Stroitel: Southwest: they’re firing again.
17:40 Horlivka: Again single salvos
17:43 Horlivka: From the west-southwest, heavy [guns] are heard
17:44 Avdiivka: Again probably a tank, again 3-4 rounds hitting residential houses. I have no idea what’s happening
17:47 Makiivka Vostochnyi: Gunnery continues from the Donetsk bypass – Vodopad, but not so frequent
17:48 Donetsk: After a short pause, salvos are heard again
17:49 Horlivka: Outgoing. Rounds are well-heard even in the center
17:51 Novhorodske: It’s about 1.5hr as it’s not quiet
18:04 Donetsk: Tough battle in the north. Cannonade. They fire everything and anything
18:06 Avdiivka [Zhebrivskyi]: One of the projectiles hit a 9-storey house. 2 apartments are damaged on the second floor. 2 teenagers have been wounded by shrapnel, they are brought to hospital
18:07 Horlivka: “Orcs are firing various types of ‘humanitarian aid'”
18:07 Donetsk Tekstilschik: One can hear distant double booms with vibration in the air
18:08 Horlivka Stroitel: Shyroka Balka – shooting. AA-gun, machine gun
18:11 Avdiivka [Zhebrivskyi]: Another projectile hit a 14-storey building in Avdiivka. An apartment has been damaged on the top floor. Fortunately, nobody resides there for now
18:14 Avdiivka [Zhebrivskyi]: In hospital, a surgeon explored 2 [injured] teenagers. Luckily, it turned out all right, minor scratches and bruises
18:16 Makiivka: Continue listening to the rumble. Intense, but caliber seems to be lighter
18:22 Donetsk: It sounds loud in Kalininskyi and Kuybyshevskyi districts. Outgoing
18:43 Horlivka: Again heavy rounds
18:59 Donetsk: “Distribution” has started again, heavy impacts in the northwest
19:01 Taramchuk area: Marinka direction makes noise
19:05 Donetsk Petrovka mine no. 10: “It’s been heard indoors”
19:05 Donetsk: “Trudovski: loud” “Petrovka circle: heard powerfully” “Zhilploschadka: batlle became closer and louder”
19:08 Novhorodske: It’s like a layer cake in the direction of SkotuvatahighwayYasynuvata: small arms, booms, flashes
19:12 [Avdiivka?]: Yakovlivka rumbles, like a tank duel + mortars as backing vocals
19:25 Donetsk Kyivskyi district: From the north, Yasynuvata?, rumble of everything and anything comes at short pauses
19:29 Horlivka: Evening “bada booms” continue, is there kind of Minsk scheduled? [=escalations in the Donbas are “ordinary” things before the Minsk meetings] 19:31 Horlivka: Again heavy outgoing rounds, from the south
19:40 Krasnohorivka: Loud booms are heard
19:43 Donetsk: Booms, various strength, come from the west
19:45 Donetsk: From Abakumova-Staromykhaylivka they are shelling Krasnohorivka
19:46 Makiivka: It is equipment making noise?
19:48 Donetsk: As they started to pound since 6pm from behind Putilovka, so they continue at some lulls, sometimes the ceiling drones
19:50 Donetsk Schetinina: Cannonade is heard from Yasynuvata
19:56 Makiivka: “Battle in full swing, now several short series of Grad went out from Batman settlement direction [=uncomfirmed]”
20:00 Donetsk: ~6pm I went along Kyivskyi Ave: first it boomed from YaBP/Promka, then far heavy salvos from Makiivka direction
20:01 Donetsk: [~6pm] then salvos from Oktyabskyi direction, pause, then airport activated – small arms fire
20:03 Donetsk: [~6pm] pause after airport [fire], and again single outgoing ones of smth in the north
20:27 Donetsk: Silence at Cargill. Kind of roaring of equipment is coming from Petrovskoho St
21:37 Donetsk: A couple of minutes ago, ~30 pieces of heavy equipment – SPGs/tanks? went from south northwards passing by Proletarskyi
21:43 Styla: “It’s very loud”
21:44 Volnovakha: A couple of incoming rounds in the fields and return fire at once
21:51 Donetsk: Hardware, ~30 pcs, escorted, driving northwards along bypass.
21:53 Starohnativka: It sounds loud
22:04 Volnovakha: It calmed down. But now incoming rounds have started. Like 122mm
22:08 Makiivka Gvardeyka: And there is UAV circling over Gladkovka, I can see a red dot from Gvardeyka moving from north to south and back
22:23 Makiivka: “By the way, they are firing”
22:26 Makiivka: .”..I heard heavy booms”
22:27 Donetsk Schetinina: Booms. YaBP or Makiivka?
23:08 Donetsk: It has boomed strong
23:10 Horlivka Stroitel: Southwest: salvos again
23:54 Makiivka: “Are you awake? And orcs[=Russian-backed forces] are, they continue pounding”

The situation in the Donbas on February 17, 2017, according to reports by local residents on social networks (red) and ATO HQ (green)

The situation in the Donbas on February 17, 2017, according to reports by local residents on social networks (red) and ATO HQ (green)

Avdiivka under shelling again: 2 civilians wounded

On February 17, for a second day in a row a residential area of the government-controlled frontline city of Avdiivka came under shelling.

The Governor of Donetsk Oblast Pavlo Zhebrivskyi reported damage and casualties:

17:37 Avdiivka has been shelled again. Explosions were heard in Khimik area
18:06 One of projectiles hit a 9-storey building. 2 apartments are damaged on the second floor. 2 teenagers have been wounded by shrapnel, they are brought to hospital
18:11 Another projectile hit a 14-storey building in Avdiivka. An apartment has been damaged on the top floor. Fortunately, nobody resides there for now
18:14 In hospital, a surgeon explored 2 [injured] teenagers. Luckily, it turned out all right, minor scratches and bruises

Translation: The Moscovites are shelling Avdiivka. A hit on a boiler-house of the regular school no. 4. Gas caught fire, shut off. Projectiles fall on the outskirts and Ukrainian Army positions.

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The Head of Donetsk Oblast Police Vyacheslav Abroskin provided more details:

There have been impacts on buildings. Yuvileynyi block: an apartment building is on fire. Two civilians have been wounded, born in 1997 and 2002.

A floor slab was ruined between the second and third floor at #8, Yubileynyi:

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Artillery attacks village

The government-controlled village of Trudivske (Volnovakha area, between Donetsk and Mariupol) was shelled on February 17 about 22:00. Preliminarily, 122mm artillery attacked the village. No casualties among the military and civilians are reported.

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February 17 reports by local residents on the shelling of Trudivske:

21:43 Styla: “It’s very loud”
21:44 Volnovakha: A couple of incoming rounds in the fields and return fire at once
21:53 Starohnativka: It sounds loud
22:04 Volnovakha: It calmed down. But now incoming rounds have started. Like 122mm

73 attacks, 1 civil volunteer perished, 4 soldiers wounded in action

The Anti-Terrorist Operation (ATO) Headquarters reported 73 attacks on February 17th, no fatalities, but 4 servicemen were wounded in action.

  • Donetsk sector
    • Ukrainian positions near Avdiivka were repeatedly attacked with use of 120mm mortars, a tank, grenade launchers, large calibre machine guns and small arms
    • Mortars and grenade launchers were used to attack Novoselivka Druha, Opytne, Verkhnyotoretske, Kamyanka, Zaytseve, Novoluhanske, Pisky.
    • Nevelske came under sniper fire.
    • Avdiivka has been shelled, 2 civilians wounded
  • Maripol sector
    • 122mm artillery was used to shell Pavlopil
    • Krasnohorivka, Novohryhorivka, Starohnativka, Pavlopil came under fire of 120mm and 82mm mortars
    • Grenade launchers, small arms were used against Vodyane, Pavlopil, Talakivka, Shyrokyne
    • Sniper fire on Hnutove
    • Trudivske was shelled with use of 122mm artillery
  • Luhansk sector
    • 120mm mortars and ATGM were used to attack Krymske
    • Novooleksandrivka, Novozvanivka, Katerynivka were attacked with grenade launchers

A Ukrainian civil volunteer, a representative of one of the national charities, was killed at about 16:30 near the village of Krymske on February 17.

OSCE SMM reports more ceasefire violations

The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine (SMM) has released their report, based on information received as of 19:30, 16 February 2017:

The SMM recorded more ceasefire violations compared with the previous reporting period in both Donetsk and Luhansk regions. The SMM continued monitoring the disengagement areas in Stanytsia Luhanska, Petrivske and Zolote, but its access remained restricted… The SMM noted weapons in violation of withdrawal lines on both sides of the contact line and noted weapons missing from storage sites. It observed the blockade of railway crossings near Hirske. The SMM facilitated repair of a power line between Svitlodarsk and Horlivka. It visited two border areas currently not controlled by the Government. The Mission followed up on the situation at a camp for Crimean Tatar activists near Chonhar.

Over the reported period (from 19:30 of February 15 to 19:30 February 16) the SMM recorded 7.5 times more explosions in Avdiivka-Donetsk area than a day before:

  • The SMM recorded more ceasefire violations in Donetsk region, including over 600 explosions, compared with the previous reporting period (80 explosions). Most of the explosions recorded by the SMM occurred in Avdiivka-Yasynuvata-Donetsk airport area.
  • In Luhansk region the SMM recorded more ceasefire violations, including 16 explosions, compared with the previous reporting period (14 explosions).

    “DNR” refuses to hand over scholar Ihor Kozlovskyi to Ukraine

    Donetsk scientist-theologian Ihor Kozlovskyi has been held captive for more than a year by the Russian-backed separatists’ organization “Donetsk People’s Republic” (“DNR”), his nephew Denis Kozlovskyi states. The scientist was arrested in January 2016, according to his wife, Valentina, he was arrested for his “wrong conversation” on Facebook, UAwire reports.

    On February 16, Ihor Kozlovskyi marked his 63rd birthday, it’s the 2nd birthday in a row he is spending in captivity. The representatives of “DNR” refuse to include Ihor Kozlovsky in the lists of prisoners for exchange claiming that ‘he is a citizen of the DNR and is not subject to extradition to Ukraine’, Denis Kozlovskyi told LB.ua.

    Debaltseve

    The Civil Initiative “Army.SOS” has posted recent aerial photographs of occupied Debaltseve, a city in Donetsk Oblast captured in February 2015 by Russian and Russian-backed forces.

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Comments

  1. Avatar veth says:

    Ceasefire or not, the Russian Army continue their nazzi-crimes.

    1. Avatar туфтуф says:

      Its just temporary. Russia will win anyway.

      1. Avatar Alex George says:

        Really – using what strategy?

        You cannot win against the people, you know. The Ukrainian people have rejected Russia, because its only intent against Ukraine is genocide. Have a look at what one of your fellow Russian trolls has started posting on this site. Here is an example: “You, **UKRAINIAN BABOONS** are inferior subculture. Good for nothing but RAPE, MURDER and STARVATION”. That was posted on another thread here just a few hours ago.

        Do you really think that Ukraine will ever give in to people like that?

        1. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Ukraine will cease to exist. It has a serious energy crisis, lack of means for bare survival, let alone to wage war against a super power. I think it will self destruct.

          1. Avatar Brent says:

            And you’re onto even consistent in your own postings….

            туфтуф • 14 hours ago
            Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily even without US participation. History teaches us that its the spirit, not weapons, that wins wars. One only has to remember the heroic resistance of Vietnamese and Somalian nations which sent the US mighty army packing. Many can still remember the US flag-draped endless lines of coffins arriving from Nam.

          2. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

            Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree entitled “On Recognizing Documents and License Plates issued to Citizens of Ukraine and Non-Citizens Permanently Residing on the Territories of Separate Districts of the Donetsk and Lugansk Regions of Ukraine,” the Kremlin’s press service has reported.

            The decree states that this measure is being adopted temporarily until the political settlement of the conflict in Donbass.

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, in other words, Putin has no intention of integrating occupied
            Donbass into Russia. Keep wishing, my friend.

            Soon the Russian economy will sink so low that the Kremlin will have no choice but to pull out its troops and the small number of separatists will run for their lives.

          4. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            One wonders where and how the dwarf manages to find such loons for his trolling factory.
            The dregs of Dwarfstan’s “society” indeed.

          5. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

            You think? What with?

          6. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

            S O O N !!! Russian President Vladimir Putin has signed a decree entitled “On Recognizing Documents and License Plates issued to Citizens of Ukraine and Non-Citizens Permanently Residing on the Territories of Separate Districts of the Donetsk and Lugansk Regions of Ukraine,” the Kremlin’s press service has reported.

          7. Avatar Alex George says:

            Which doesn’t help you at all. Its just Putin giving a little bit that doesn’t matter to keep the poor separatist fools in the Donbass.

          8. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Oh Happy Day!!! Dwarfstan recognises documents issued by the so-called LNR and DNR!!!!

            “Enjoy” it….. because nobody else will.

          9. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

            Ukrapistan only gets some attention because is in the position to antagonize big, increasingly influential Russia. As the South Stream and Nord Stream2 gets built, and as the US recognizes that Crima is Russia and Donbass is lost for ever, world will lose interest in Ukrapistan, the deep decays would continue.

          10. Avatar Alex George says:

            Russia is decreasingly influential.

            Crimea is Ukrainian, as is Donbass. The whole world recognises this.

          11. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

            So what are you whining then all day long that you have neither?

          12. Avatar Alex George says:

            Ha ha, what “energy crisis”? Lack of anthracite coal is not an energy crisis my friend. And what “super power”?

            You can wish as much as you like, but its not going to happen.

          13. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Change of scenary in Ukraine: news from the ground, no url. 700 more Russian tanks crossed the border between Russia and the half recognized Republics. That means 1400 Rebublican tanks against 230 on ukro side. It is obvious that the DPR army simply cannot man that amount of tanks. But spetsnaz GRU can.

          14. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – You are still so stupid that you think tanks are manned by Spetznaz! You poor ignorant troll.

            And no, there aren’t 1400 tanks. Why not try 14,000 next time. ;o)

          15. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Course they are! Russia will not send incompetent drafted youngsters to fight US trained nazis. U moron, u.

          16. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

            LOL. ‘US trained nazis.’ You are indeed a brainless mongol. Step away from the RT propaganda and attempt to develop your small brain.

        2. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

          Eastern part LOVES Russia. Western Part are UkrNaZZi. To liberate entire Ukraine they would have to die in a incoming combat. But trolls like you need to stay in EXILE~!~

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            You are living in fantasy land. It is the eastern part that hates the Kremlin most of all, and is prepared to die rather than be ruled by Putin.

            Look at a map – the reason that Putin has only been able to take a tiny sliver of eastern Ukraine is because the Russian-speaking people and the ethnic Russians of eastern Ukraine strongly opposed him.

            Ah exile – that is your problem is it? Expelled from your home country due to your extremist views? Not my problem, my friend.

          2. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Wrong. The entire Novorossiya is proRussian. Novorossiya is a Trojan horse. When ukros murdered Odessites in the House of trade unions, they had better flattened the whole city scorched earth. Odessites never forgive, never forget. One right signal from Moscow and nazis are gone. Not to EU.

          3. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO – Sure….. that is why Russia’s attempts to raise insurrection from Kharkiv to Odesa failed miserably!

            All its little green men were forced out, because the vast majority of Russian-speaking Ukrainians wanted nothing to do with them.

            hence why Rusia now only holds a tiny sliver of eastern Ukraine. Whenever it sends sabotage teams into “novorossiya” they are quickly exposed and reported on by the people.

            There is no such thing as Novorossiya, and the Russian-speaking people and ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine do not want Putin’s “protection”.

          4. Avatar туфтуф says:

            No one can FORCE the kind men out but Surkov.

          5. Avatar Alex George says:

            Of course they can be forced out. They won’t fight without pay. And Surkov is irrelevant – he is just one of Putin’s lackeys.

          6. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Surkov prevented Strelkov from conquering Ukraine. Surkov needed the job done by the hands of ukrainians themselves.

          7. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Keep deluding your self, туф-туф. Ukrainian troops kicked Girkin and his goons out of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and other towns.

          8. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            туф-туф isn’t an exile at all. He CLAIMS he is Burmese and lives in East Sussex, but he fools nobody. In reality he’s a Savushika troll who lives in St. Petersburg or, more likely, in a mud hut in the bogs surrounding St. P.
            He probably DOES dream of living in East Sussex, but that is NOT the same as actually living there.

        3. Avatar туфтуф says:

          There will exist no one to give in. Russia plans to introduce WMD’s into the conflict, although am not sure at what stage. They have 430 Tulips, l dnt know what number is directed for use on sovereign ukrainian territory. Germany can get rid of the mussie fugees by sending them as help for the walking dead. Most of the fugees are men of fighting age, well trained at the killing fields of Syria and Iraq.

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            LOL You really are getting doddery now, you silly old windbag. You have no idea what Russia’s strategy is, but anyone with a modicum of knowledge knows that it won’t involve WMDs.

            I know you are angry because it has become apparent that hte great offensive around Avdiivka failed, but you will just have to get used to it.

            And I also note that you don’t disagree with your fellow troll who wrote: “You, **UKRAINIAN BABOONS** are inferior subculture. Good for nothing but RAPE, MURDER and STARVATION”. That reflects the true mentality of Putin supporters. Thanks for confirming it.

          2. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Omg.

          3. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Zounds!! Tsar Vladimir the not-so-Great, “Impaler” of Little Boys, is going to bombard the Ukrainians with tulips!!!!
            The dwarf can’t afford tulips, and even if he could he can’t get them. They are grown in the Netherlands and just in case you don’t know, all products from the Netherlands are banned in Dwarfstan, including flowers.

      2. Avatar Brent says:

        Hey TOTO, thanks for proving how full of sh*t you really are

        HERE’S YOUR POST FROM ANOTHER ARTICLE EARLIER TODAY

        туфтуф • 14 hours ago
        Ukraine can defeat Russia militarily even without US participation. History teaches us that its the spirit, not weapons, that wins wars. One only has to remember the heroic resistance of Vietnamese and Somalian nations which sent the US mighty army packing. Many can still remember the US flag-draped endless lines of coffins arriving from Nam.

        And now you’re claiming “Russia will win”……

        1. Avatar туфтуф says:

          I mix truth with lies, remember? Neurolinguistics.

          1. Avatar Alex George says:

            No you don’t. You just can’t remember what you’ve posted at different times. The proper term is neuro-alzheimers.

          2. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            Actually, it’s the result of his lobotomy and neutering, plus quaffing vast quantities of the dwarf’s cheapest rotgut samogon and Krokodil addiction. Of course he wasn’t a bright spark to begin with and “education” in Dwarfstan’s schools doesn’t exactly help either.

    2. Avatar туфтуф says:

      What else did u expect? The mossad logo: by deception we win.

      1. Avatar Alex George says:

        Mossad is a competent organisation. The FSB is not. ;o)

        1. Avatar туфтуф says:

          ÀLL intel agencies are competent. CIA sometimes LOOKS incompetent cus its often sidelined and blamed for gvts cock-ups.

  2. Avatar туфтуф says:

    Bulgarians remember Motorola and Givi. This is a proof that they are really dead and Ukraine will triumph in the war against its own ppl.

    https://youtu.be/RTHJiYTVPmU

    1. Avatar Alex George says:

      Ukraine is not engaged in a war with its own people, but to protect its own people from Russian aggression. Nice try with your Putin propaganda, but it doesn’t work.

      Givi and Motorola were killed by the Russian secret service – the FSB – as so many others have been. Putin does not want a real independence movement in Donbass, only one that he controls.

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        That is completely logical. U quoted my words to my nazi friend. I told her do u really think Russia will allow you to become nato member. I predicted a long and protracted war and the loss of Crimea. She was Right sector press secretay (an organization forbidden in.Russia on account of its terrorist activity in Russias mainland), but she wldnt listen. Anyway, l have a feeling she didnt have much influence on events, but was rather an instrument than a player. She now works for the nazi batallion Azov.

        1. Avatar Brent says:

          If she indeed worked for Azov, there’s no way she would be friends with a Russo Nazzi scumbag like you….

          1. Avatar туфтуф says:

            She was. Not when she found out that l call nazis nazis. Since then, l became her shadow.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            LOL Oh please, you are just too funny.

            What amazes me is that every week you come up with some different person that you claim to know personally, its all obviously bullshit, yet you actually expect people to believe you! Even for a second!

          3. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Olena Semenyaka. Google her. If u talk to her, pls dnt tell her lm her shadow. U see how much l trust you. She is fluent in several lingos , English incl.

          4. Avatar Alex George says:

            LMAO You really are a silly old windbag. Just like all the other people that you claimed to know but you don’t actually know any of them!

          5. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Duckin ask her ffs!

        2. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

          Shaddap you RuSSiyan Nazi. Go play with a dead cat.

        3. Avatar Alex George says:

          Ha ha, and another great line of bullshit spun by Tuphie – the old windbag who always claims to know someone special or have some secret information, but never a word of truth to it.

          Ah well my friend, you are always good for a laugh, I will give you that!

      2. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Most fighters are pure blooded Ukrainians. Even the presidents of the republucs are Ukrainian. Plotnicky is from Galicia. Only a few are foreign volunteers and Russian military advisers. Nothing serious.

        1. Avatar Victor Victory says:

          What a #sad load of BS

        2. Avatar Alex George says:

          Some are Ukrainian, that is true – not of the leaders, but of the cannon fodder. There is virtually no employment in Donbass, hence the 15,000 rubles a month paid to those who join up is often their only choice. How effective they are is demonstrated by the recent fighting.

          But the bulk of the forces in LNR and DNR are Russian, as are their leaders. By that I mean teh real leaders, not just figureheads like Plotnitsky and Zacharchenko.

          1. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Sorry, but both presidents are pure blooded ukrainians. Even Vlad Denego was born and bred in ukraine.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Which is exactly what i wrote – the figureheads, not the real leaders.

          3. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Every pressie is to a greater or lesser degree a figurehead. Plotnicky is hated by LNR ppl because he does business with ukrainian oligarchs, but Zahar is very well respected and loved both by his subjects and the military. He fights shoulder to shoulder in the trenches with his men. Many direct testemonies l personally heard from many diff ppl.

      3. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Most of the victims are ukrainian citizens. The reason is simple: Russian troups are few and far between, mostly spetsnaz GRU, who act as advisers, tacticians etc, and even if involved in actual smoking out of nazis, they attribute their actions to DPR army. Yesterday l watched a clip of complex military exercises by DPR GUR. Formidable.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          LOL Nice try you silly old windbag.

          That was indeed Putin’s plan but it didn’t work because the “separatist” units ran away. So Russian boys had to do the attacks, and they were shot to pieces.

          And the GRU …. do tell – have they received training yet in how not to cry when they are captured? ;o)

    2. Avatar Brent says:

      Yes, LIQUIDATED BY THEIR OWN FSB….

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        If KGB was involved, they knew why they did it. They are guided by cold, calculated logic where human emotions play no role. IF.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          KGB are guided by the same emotions that motivated Hitler’s gestapo, and they follow the same ideals.

          1. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Gestapo was not cold. They believed in racial superiority which clouded their reasoning abilities.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            FSB and Gestapo are so similar as to make no difference. And racial superiority is indeed a part of the Kremlin’s thinking.

          3. Avatar туфтуф says:

            No. I personally know an Afganistani who works for FSB. Kadirov’s muslim Spetsnaz is fully integrated into FSB. Race and nationality play almost no role in.FSB.

  3. Avatar MichaelA says:

    Russian mortars killed 10 of their own troops and wounded many more: http://en.censor.net.ua/news/428562/10_militants_eliminated_by_friendly_fire_in_donbas_today_ministry_of_defense

    These dill-brains have killed more of their own soldiers than they have Ukrainians.

    1. Avatar туфтуф says:

      All news with url .ua must be taken with a pinch of salt. One cannot take from granted news outlets of a country at war seriously.

      1. Avatar Alex George says:

        Why? Just because you don’t like the news doesn’t make it untrue.

  4. Avatar туфтуф says:

    Putin issued a decree acc to which all documents issued by the breakaway republics’ authorities are being officially recognized by Russia. The validity of the decree will last as long as peace returns to the regions under attack by Ukrainian forces.
    Poroshenko thinks it is a violation of intl law.

    1. Avatar Brent says:

      I think it’s great news!!! Now all of those pro-Russian scum living on Ukrainian territory in Donbass can flee to Rossiya with you and take up Putin’s offer of free land in Siberia. Good riddance!!! They want to be part of Russia, they now have the right to move there and get the f*ck out of Ukraine.

      You can go have a “ratburger and palm oil cheese” party with them and drink yourselves silly on some good old Russian bath lotion…

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Some with deeper insight hope thats a step towards full recognition, which wld be bad for Ukraine. It means shelling civilians of Donbass means shelling of a territory which is protected by Russia. A Georgia 2.0 type of situation.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          Anyone who thinks Putin will ever recognise Donbass as part of Russia is deluding themselves.

          And yes, Russia does shell the civilians of Donbass, including within the small slice of Ukraine that it controls. That is all it can do, since its army lacks the skill and courage to dislodge the Ukrainian defenders.

          1. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Mission creep towards full recognition or using threat thereof? Both work fantastic.

          2. Avatar Alex George says:

            Full recognition is not a threat to anyone. Its just what some of the poor “separatists” in Donbass delude themselves might happen.

            And yes, Russia does shell the civilians of Donbass, including within the small slice of Ukraine that it controls. That is all it can do, since its army lacks the skill and courage to dislodge the Ukrainian defenders.

          3. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Lemme post DPR passport which was recognized y day by Putin “until the conflict in Ukraine is over”. Will find it and post it here. Together w my nazi friend Olena Semenyaka.

          4. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            What the heck is y day??????

      2. Avatar veth says:

        Donbass is Ukraine, like Crimea, So, only the Pro-Ukrainian will stay in Donbass……problem solved.

  5. Avatar veth says:

    Russians love war, they have nothing to be proud of.

    1. Avatar zorbatheturk says:

      RuSSians seem to prefer death to life.

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Exactly.

        1. Avatar Alex George says:

          Yes, but its not a courageous death, but a stoical and servile death that they end up with. Unfortunately, their culture teaches them from an early age to be grovelling and servile to authority, hence they have little capacity to resist.

      2. Avatar veth says:

        In their life, even I understand their choice

    2. Avatar туфтуф says:

      Their prototype are meadieval knights fighting against what they think of as “the evil of this world”. That is why NO ONE can destroy Russia. Both Bizmark and Brzezinski think that it can only be destroyed from within. In the West, our haughtiness makes us take lessons from history lightly and disregard opinions of the most intelligent amongst us.

      1. Avatar Alex George says:

        LOL And yet more of your fantasy creations!

        Most Russians only want to be left in peace, but their oligarchic leaders force them to fight, in order to preserve their own obscene wealth.

        Unfortunately, Russian culture teaches its people from an early age to be grovelling and servile to authority, hence they have little capacity to resist.

  6. Avatar Andrew Chimplewsky says:

    Putin signs order recognizing DPR/LPR documents, visa-free travel to Russia!

  7. Avatar туфтуф says:

    “Separs” celebrating what they call aniversary of the Debaltsevo victory. What follows is a copy/paste of a 1 y old text:

    “OK. Yesterday I came out with a figure of about 2000 Ukrainian soldiers dead in Debaltsevo. Today,Zaharchenko officially announced that the “zachistka” (purge,clearing out pockets of resistance) is finished,but the death toll estimate among Ukro-Nazis has risen up to 3- 3,5 thousand soldiers. Most are far right and national guard illegal formations (illegal as per DPR Attorney General’s office). At the same time, Poroshenko was yesterday trying to persuade Ukrainians Debaltsevo was their greatest victory ever.”

    1. Avatar Alex George says:

      Ha ha, sure it is! You have no contacts and no sources of information, so nice try.

      Ukrainian losses in Debaltseve were between 100 and 200 killed. Most of them died after the Russians offered them safe conduct if they would abandon their positions, and then the Russians treacherously shot them down as they left. No-one in Ukraine will ever trust the Russians again.

      Neither Poroshenko nor anyone else ever suggested Debaltseve was “the greatest victory ever” but since that exists only in your own mind, who would be surprised?

      What is true however is that the Russians lost the campaign.

  8. Avatar veth says:

    It took the great Russian Army 1,5 year to take Donetsk Airport, now they have this nice airport.

    1. Avatar Alex George says:

      With one end of the runway under direct Ukrainian fire, but otherwise fine…!

  9. Avatar veth says:

    Vice President Mike Pence has met with the president of Ukraine and assured him of U.S. support.

    Pence’s office says he “underscored U.S. support” for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and underlined that the U.S. does not recognize “Russia’s occupation and attempted annexation” of Crimea.

  10. Avatar veth says:

    US Embassy stated that Russia’s recognition of “DPR/LPR” passports contradicts Minsk process
    Beyond that, the embassy expressed concern over increased military activity in Donbas and use of Grads along the contact line

    12:09, 19 February 2017
    000

  11. Avatar veth says:

    Avdiivka left without electricity because of shelling again
    Besides civilians, Coke plant and filtration plant were also de-energized

    08:39, 19 February 2017
    400

    1. Avatar Alex George says:

      Russians can only shoot for the present. Separatist forces morale is broken and russian army units shot up. So fire off ammunition instead.

      Of course, they tend to hit their own people more than the ukrainians, but still…

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Upvoted you despite not having read ur comment. U r the only person on here who bothers talking to me. Djoko, (Serbian slang for d*ck) nasao sam njenu sliku na kompu za tebe. Later l ll send u DPR passport, recognized y day by presidential decree. Meet Olena….. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9fba78986311ccb2ad0b9c3db6a0a03c3191dcdb830cdb03dbb517e507261614.jpg