Putin threatens to use nuclear warheads against Ukraine, EU

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2015/02/08 • Op-ed

Article by: Nicole Gallina

There are two reasons why Germany’s Merkel and France’s Hollande humiliated themselves in Moscow.

The first one is to prevent the delivery of weapons to Ukraine. Those and other European politicians are supported by various ‘experts’ and non-Ukrainian media who claim Ukrainians would use the weapons to either escalate the crisis (i.e. to bomb Russia), would not know how to use them or have an army that is not capable of fighting. Strange enough, the Ukrainian army has been able to prevent a break-through of the Russian army on the front in the Russian January 2015 campaign. But it is easy to ignore this if we have “local rebels” or “Russian-backed separatists” (now more popular) that do the fighting or even a “civil war”. Preventing weapon deliveries to Ukraine at this stage is irresponsible and sets the stage for war in EU and NATO countries.

The second reason is that the Russian president has deployed the ballistic missile system Iskander in Kaliningrad and on Crimea. This system is capable of launching nuclear warheads. Informnapalm reports several sources provided information the Russian president warned of using them ahead of US Secretary of State Kerry’s visit in Kyiv on 5 February 2015. See the possible range on the following graph:

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This threat reportedly was directed against Ukraine – but it is also a direct threat against the EU (see graph on the deployment of all Russian Iskanders possible to reach EU countries). The most powerful EU leaders allow themselves to be harassed and still talk to a man that never has kept his promises. In spring/summer 2014, he threatened to invade Ukraine – Ukraine was invaded besides all talks and agreements. Now, he threatens to use Iskander missiles. There are talks and agreements. He won’t stick to talks and agreements, and if he finds it necessary, he will use them.

Talks do not prevent action.

Action prevents action.

Arm Ukraine now.

Source: Osteuropastudien
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  • DejaVu

    With the weakness of these Western “vote chasers” European leaders deserve to see their countries in shambles from the ruins of war. They think with a normalcy bias attitude and one that equates “If it doesn’t affect me why should I care”. The same attitude happened before the outbreak of the Second World War.

    As for Merkel and Hollande they are traitors and deserve to rot in hell along with their cronies. Hollande wants to resume arms transfers and sales to Russia as soon as possible and Merkel of course wants to continue their cozy relationship with Russia in terms of trade. Just look at all the traitors in power in the West and their business relationships and gas dependency with Russia.

    • Frank Fileccia

      I wonder how many German companies are still breaking sanctions? For them, it’s business as usual

      • DejaVu

        Yes and without a slap on the wrist either. Just look at what happened to those in the West responsible for the Economic crisis of 2008-Present. They are concocting another economic crisis that will dwarf 2008 and they weren’t held accountable.

        At the end of the day money is money and business is business. Morales and principles are thrown aside for money and profit.

      • john hoover
    • Nobody4

      You realise it’s not our job to save you, right? You aren’t an EU member state, any aid given is out of our will to help, not an obligation.

      • DejaVu

        Keep thinking in your little bubble like this. You don’t realize but you think that if it doesn’t affect you directly then it never will. It’s called normalcy bias and that kind of thinking will lead to World War III.

        I think you are trolling anyway and must be a Russian sympathizer so for that I say enjoy your short-lived time before Russia implodes and collapses.

        As for any obligation read up on the Budapest Memorandum before making such ridiculous comments like this.

        I also recommend anyone flag and report this troll.

        • Nobody4

          I really do doubt it ever will affect me directly. This war in Ukraine is part of a wider Cold War between NATO and the Russian Federation, and I think that is as far as it will get. Direct warfare between NATO and Russia is extremely unlikely.

          I’m not trolling, and in fact I’m on your side. I hope you push Russia out of Ukraine completely.

          However, the Budapest memorandum only requires that Russia, the USA and the UK seek to ensure Ukraine’s security, it has no bearing on the EU as a whole. Furthermore, the increased cohesion of the EU may force the UK to ignore that obligation, lest the rest of the EU be pulled into conflict. I think it’s quite telling of a refusal to act by the US and UK, that they’r pretending to accept Putin’s excuses for why the memorandum does not apply.

          • DejaVu

            Again we see the Normalcy bias pop up.

            First off I am not in Ukraine but I do have Ukranian blood and heritage in me.

            Secondly if you think that there will be no further conflicts after Ukraine you are delusional and don’t understand the relationship between economics and war. Russia has a limited window left up until mid-2016 (most optimistic figures). You have to look at Putin’s inner circle and his hardliners and oligarch’s who both support war and a distraction from internal problems. Putin and his circle believe they can win a nuclear war and also a direct military conflict as evidenced by their various direct and indirect threats.

            Budapest Memorandum also does apply to EU even though it wasn’t signed by other EU members. The reality is that the EU is indirectly affected and their refusal to honour the agreement or put pressure on the US/UK/Russia to honour the agreement will affect them directly.

          • Sulfur12

            Thats very naive. If Putin moves further into the Ukraine at some point one of neighbouring countries WILL have to react, because this is DIRECT threat to survival of those nations. There is no single guarantee, that army will stop on their borders. This would be act of war. Putin knows this, so in order to counteract that he needs to pacify NATO or disrupt it. He is going to do this by attacking Baltic States. They are defensless, there is no NATO army there, so the effect will be that Alliance will collapse, since its guarantees for its members will be proven worth exactly zero, and US will back off. Either that or war will start at this point.

            This is real, because on contrary to majority of NATO, for Russia posession of Ukraine is question of survival, so they are determined to do whatever necessary.

  • disqus_aJpixObjG7

    This Russian invasion of Ukraine would not be occurring if
    russia and Russian stooges in Ukraine had not disarmed Ukraine of her NUCLEAR
    ARSENAL in 1995.

    An egregrious strategic historic CRIMINAL act was the disarming
    of UKRAINE.

    Already back in 1993 i argued that the only interest the West
    had in UKRAINE was to de-claw it & de-fang it. No one agreed.

    THE EGREGIOUS TRAITOR CRIMINALS against their own nation,
    Kravchuk and Kuchma GAVE AWAY THE WORLD’S THIRD LARGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL (of
    course Kravchuk & Kuchma got hundreds of millions each).

    THE WORLD’S 3RD LARGEST NUCLEAR ARSENAL WAS GIVEN BY UKRAINE
    to…wait for it…russia!

    Kravchuk & Kuchma could have got say 500? 800? $900? billion
    for the Ukrainian people in return for dismantling their own nuclear arsenal
    from… the WEST. (to temporarily deactivate the arsenal & keep it on
    Ukrainian territory.

    INSTEAD KRAVCHUK GAVE THIS AWAY FOR…wait for it… wait for
    it… several pounds of paper with ink on it worth perhaps ten dollars at a
    stationery store:

    THIS IS THE BUDAPEST MEMORANDUM- sheets of toilet paper with
    signatures on them.

    BY THIS CRIMINAL ACT, THE FATE OF UKRAINE WAS SEALED. THE
    HENHOUSE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH THREE FOXES.

    THE FOXES WOULD ASSURE THE SECURITY OF THE HENHOUSE AND THE
    HENS.

    These CRIMINAL FOXES ARE BETRAYING UKRAINE RIGHT NOW. THEY SWORE
    TO DEFEND BY MILITARY MEANS THE TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OF UKRAINE- UK, USA,
    RUSSIA with assurances from FRANCE & CHINA where are these 5 foxes now?

    KRAVCHUK SAID HE WOULD NEVER… EVER…ever! GIVE AWAY UKRAINE’S
    TACTICAL NUKES…

    BUT KUCHMA DID…KUCHMA GAVE THEM TO RUSSIA for a bribe AND THEY
    ARE POINTING AT UKRAINE RIGHT NOW.

    No one has ever been called to order for this unspeakable crime
    against a nation state – UKRAINE.

    DO YOU RECALL THE FOUL SMELLING LIE REPEATED A MILLION TIMES IN
    THE WESTERN MEDIA, THAT, “ukraine “inherited” the nukes from
    russia? UKRAINE INHERITED NOTHING whatsoever from some “russia”.
    russia STOLE ALL IT EVER HAD FROM ITS PRIZE COLONY UKRAINE…

    In the early 90’s UKRAINE EVEN LET ITS TANKS by the thousand BE
    DEMOLISHED FOR… the “reward” of a mere $9000 each.

    THERE WOULD BE NO RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE TODAY IF UKRAINE
    HAD HER CLAWS AND TEETH- HER NUKES.

    Chamberlain came away with a piece of toilet paper with a
    signature on it BUT HE GAVE NOTHING FOR IT.

    UKRAINE GAVE AWAY…GAVE AWAY!

    CAN WE COMPREHEND it?……FOR A POUND OF PAPER AND 20 CUBIC
    METERS OF HOT AIR… what!? the world’s THIRD NUCLEAR ARSENAL!

    Their launch systems were part-controlled from Russia? so what!
    you can change the lock on a car engine, you can change the control systems on
    nukes.

    Unless the regime in KYIV are totally insane, they are INDEED
    scurrying to rebuild a nuclear strike capacity by UKRAINE-in secret. THERE IS
    NO QUESTION THAT THIS MUST OCCUR ASAP.

    ALL THE ENGINEERS WHO
    BUILT THE SOVIET UNION’S SPACE PROGRAM, NUCLEAR ARSENAL AND ICBMS WERE IN
    UKRAINE…so hopefully this know- how is being put to work on a round the clock
    basis. pls seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S…

    A russian jet was
    repatriated from russia by a UKRAINIAN pilot.

    UKRAINE NEEDS TO attempt operations on russian territory to capture and
    REPATRIATE some of its tactical nukes.
    Now none of the
    above advocates the actual use of
    nuclear weapons by Ukraine. But carry a big stick and Russian criminals will
    hesitate to invade you.

    • Frank Fileccia

      You forgot another reason….
      If in 2008 “Senator” Obama hadn’t insisted that the Budapest Memorandum also covered conventional weapons, and forced the destruction of millions of dollars worth of weapons and ammunition. The blood of every soldier that died because he ran out of ammunition is on Obama’s hands

      • justine

        Obama wasn’t anywhere around when the Budapest agreement was signed. If you are going to blame him, at least pick something that is true. I’m very disappointed that he and the other western countries have not honored the agreement or provided the Ukrainians with the means and weapons to defend themselves.

        • Frank Fileccia

          Check your facts. In 2008 newly minted “Senator” Obama came to Ukraine, Argues that the Budapest Memorandum included conventional weapons and had the US government pay $48 million for the destruction of Ukraine’s huge stockpiles of weapons and ammunition

    • Mykola Potytorsky

      lets face it kuchma and kravchuk are traitors on the same level as yanoukovych-all deserve to be hung like the scum they are.

  • Brent

    And Merkl and Hollande want to negotiate and do business with this tyrant? He’s nothing more than another petulant mutant of a being just like Kim Jong Un and needs to be isolated from the civilized world.

    Germany built Russia a $140 million training base for its military in southwest Russia and France plans on selling them assault class Mistral warships. But to supply Ukraine with weapons to defend itself? They refuse….

    It’s time the U.S. stationed a carrier group in the Black Sea and showed Russia how easily accessible Rostov, the supply depot for the terrorists in Donbas, can be.

    • DejaVu

      Yea they will negotiate even when the Russian military is right outside their doorsteps. These Western leaders are a laughing joke and don’t deserve to lead anything let alone an entire country.

      World War III will be the result of their negligence and their ignorance and also because of their failure to learn any lessons from the current ongoing economic crisis worldwide. After all the market crash of 1908 = World War I | Market crash of 1929 = World War II | Market crash of 2008 = World War III

    • W8post

      Ukraine could have a nice use for the Mistral…

      • DejaVu

        But the problem is that NATO and the West lack any kind of backbone to provide a task force to support the Mistral and the Ukranian navy doesn’t stand a chance against the Russian black sea fleet.

        • W8post

          That’s why the Ukraine navy could use the Mistral…

          • W8post

            Mistral, ready for delivery…

          • DejaVu

            Yes but without the crew and complement. Ship only.

          • DejaVu

            Yes Ukraine could use it but without an effective task force or support force it is an inviting target. NATO and America won’t provide a task force to support it and Ukraine’s Naval fleet or what remains of it cannot compete with the Russian black sea fleet.

            Besides what could Ukraine use it for unless they could have a sufficient and sizeable force with air support to invade Crimea?

    • StumpedNoMore2

      Here is the up to date info. With Congress and the administration willing to support Ukraine, I think all they are waiting for is their allies. Germany and France are on the clock. Poland and Baltic States are ready.

      “…The chairman of the U.S.
      Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Bob Corker, directly challenged
      Merkel in open session, making the argument that arming the Ukrainian
      military was right decision both strategically and morally.

      “All of us in the U.S. Congress believe in defensively arming Ukraine,” he
      said. “Why would we not at least give them defensive arms to counter the
      offensive arms Russian is sending into Eastern Ukraine?”

      Corker’s framing of the issue, calling Western lethal aid to Ukraine “defensive”
      and Russian lethal aid to the separatists “offensive” is not an
      accident. Those are the talking points members of the U.S. delegation
      are using here to lobby their European counterparts to support lethal
      aid, or at the very least not to oppose it…”

      Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-germany-rift-ukraine-aids-181222608.html

    • Vince Scopa

      Brent the Black sea is too small and shallow for a carrier group, but the eastern med works well. all we need is a real president, not a coward

      • DejaVu

        Yea the golfer-in-chief. He is more concerned about helping his Wallstreet buddies than about foreign policy. He also is more concerned about his vacation or golf swing.

        Anyone ever read Dragon’s Fury the book released in 2005 which also had a similar weakling of a president and look where it led.

    • Anton Kartmann

      And I say it’s time that Russia RE-station a bomber in Cuba along with Iskander missiles if the US follows through with that idea!

      • Jim Denney

        They will. Thety’re just waiting for Obama to void the lease and hand GITMO back to Castro. After we upgrade the port facilities and the golf course, naturally.

  • Rods

    There is only one rational answer that Merkel and Hollande should have replied with and that is if Putin ever attempts to use or uses Nuclear Weapons in Ukraine or anywhere else in the World then the West’s reply will be decapitation, his life wherever he does will be quickly over. The West will have to be successful once, he has to be successful defending his life every hour, every day, every month, every year, every time.

    Putler is either so worried, where he is extending himself beyond what he can afford in Ukraine and US weapons will tip the balance or is so stupid that he thinks we are all going to cower to his crude nuclear bullying. Ukrainian’s certainly won’t be.

    Time for the US and NATO to step up to the challenge and get those defensive weapons shipped into Ukraine.

    I’ve felt for over six months on studying and judging Putin as a person, that he will have an if I go, as much as humanity goes as I can take with me moment, unless suits in the Kremlin stop him. Personally, as he has grown bolder over the West’s feeble response over Ukraine, WWIII through a Putin miscalculation and some sort of Nuclear exchange is becoming more and more likely and maybe even inevitable.

    • DejaVu

      WWIII is now inevitable in my opinion. The point of no return was reached in the Minsk Agreements which are akin to the Munich agreements which led to WWII.

      • TheBlogFodder

        1914…with nucs

        • DejaVu

          Exactly and countless other weapons developed including scalar weaponry.

  • steve34609

    The words of JFK during the Cuban Missile Crisis come to mind…’If any nuclear missile based upon Cuban territory is ever used against any US city, regardless of WHO was responsible for using it,Cubans or Russians, the US shall consider such a use to have originated from Russia itself and will retaliate in like manner,with massive strikes of similar weapons…’ (paraphrased). It is time to bring Ukraine under the western nuclear umbrella. No amount of lies emanating from the Kremlin could ever convince me that such weapons could have been used accidentally,as it was claimed by Russua that the Buk was used erroneously by rebels not under Kremlin control, against an unarmed passenger airliner.We must make it our policy.Massive retaliation by theater nukes or ICBMs against Russia in exchange for Russia’s use of nukes against ANY country,NATO or not.

  • Richard Hoover

    SICKENING,,THIS IS WHAT I FACE HERE IN KIEV EACH MORNING AND MY SO MANY FRIENDS AND SON AND FAMILY,,,,,,,,PUTLER,,,ATOMIC MISSILE THREATS AGAINST UKRAINE,,,USA ,,EUROPE ,,ETC. STICK ONE IN IS FACE AND SEE HOW HE LIKES IT,

  • Vlad Pufagtinenko

    Is there not one of putin’s generals who knows what to do?

  • Murf

    Sooner or later the Western leaders will realize that Putin only care about winning no matter what the cost in money and lives.
    Then perhaps they will realize that he will continue until in his mind he can not win. Then he will stop.
    The ONLY way to drive that point home is by arming the Ukrainian Army until Putin faces a clear (not decisive) military defeat.
    Otherwise he continue to up the ante and more people will be slaughtered while Merkel and Co. make up their minds.

  • Marceli2012

    Saint Mary Queen of Poland may protect own country again! If Russia will send nuke she has power to redirect it in space back to owner!

  • Carey Carey

    You have to remember the other side too. If it were not for the Putins and Kim Jongs of the world the new world order would run rapant and unchecked.

  • Guest

    Israel is widely believed to possess weapons of mass destruction, and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).[1] The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment has recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared chemical warfare capabilities, and an offensive biological warfare program.[2] Officially Israel neither confirms nor denies possessing nuclear weapons.

    France warns: Nukes in response to terror

    Unprecedented threat: French President Chirac threatens nuclear response to terror attack on French soil. German intelligence: Iran 3-4 years away from acquiring nuclear bomb

    Reuters

    Published: 01.19.06, 15:26 / Israel News

    France said on Thursday it would be ready to launch a targeted nuclear strike against any state that carried out a terrorist attack on French soil.

    In a speech defending France’s costly nuclear deterrent and toughening policy against terrorism, President Jacques Chirac said Paris must be able to hit back hard at a hostile state’s centers of power and its “capacity to act”.

    “The leaders of states who would use terrorist means against us, as well as those who would consider using in one way or another weapons of mass destruction, must understand that they would lay themselves open to a firm and adapted response on our part,” Chirac said during a visit to northwestern France, where France’s nuclear submarines are based.

    “This response could be a conventional one. It could also be of a different kind.”

    Chirac said all of France’s nuclear forces had been configured with this strategy in mind and the number of nuclear warheads on French nuclear submarines had been reduced to allow targeted strikes.

    It was the first time he had so clearly linked the threat of a nuclear response to a terrorist attack, but he made no mention of any specific threat against France.

    “Against a regional power, our choice would not be between inaction or annihilation,” he said.

    “The flexibility and reactivity of our strategic forces would enable us to exercise our response directly against its centers of power and its capacity to act.”

    Iranian threat

    Meanwhile, Germany’s foreign intelligence agency believes that Iran is at least three or four years away from getting a nuclear weapon if it wants one, a source familiar with the agency’s estimate said on Thursday.

    “Our guys believe the minimum scenario is three to four years. Our allies in Tel Aviv and the U.S also believe it would take quite a few years,” a source familiar with the views of the BND intelligence agency told Reuters on condition of anonymity.