Moscow Patriarchate taking control over property of its parishes in Ukraine to block them from leaving

This political cartoon by an anonymous Russian artist accurately represents Russia of Putin's rule. It is a post-communist "prison of nations" which replaced the cult of the Party with the cult of Putin and uses the Russian Orthodox church as a major propaganda and manipulation tool and a convenient cover for Russian spy services abroad.

This political cartoon by an anonymous Russian artist accurately represents Russia of Putin's rule. It is a post-communist "prison of nations" which replaced the cult of the Party with the cult of Putin and uses the Russian Orthodox church as a major propaganda and manipulation tool and a convenient cover for Russian spy services abroad. 

Analysis & Opinion, Russia, Ukraine

Faced with a rising tide of parishes in Ukraine whose members have voted to transfer their allegiance to the Kyiv Patriarchate, the Moscow Patriarchate has issued rules specifying that parishes cannot change from one hierarchy to another without its explicit written permission.

Individuals, of course, can continue to move from one church to another; but the Moscow Patriarchate, by re-writing parish charters in Ukraine so that they specify that the parish buildings and property are controlled by the patriarchate and not by the parishioners, can block parishes from voting to leave collectively and take church buildings and other property with them.

In the words of TSN reporter Sergey Galchenko, this action “completely destroys the Ukrainian structure of the church, transforming it into a reflection of the Russian Orthodox Church” in Russia and thus, “in fact, taking the churches away from their parishioners.”

This is a very big deal for both Moscow and Kyiv. For the Moscow Patriarchate and the Kremlin, the more than 12,000 parishes of the Moscow Patriarchal church in Ukraine not only form more than a third of the religious communities there, allowing enormous opportunities for Russian influence, but also represent almost half of all Moscow Patriarch churches in total and thus an important source of revenue for the patriarchate.

For Kyiv, it represents an equally large challenge. Many Ukrainian political leaders have expressed the hope that moves to autocephaly for the republic’s church could be speeded by having congregations and even bishoprics change sides. Now, if the Ukrainian authorities want to move in that direction, they will have to take more positive actions.


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  • RedSquareMaidan

    The ROC is just a branch of the KGB and is illegitimate in Ukraine.

    • Scradje

      Is it not possible, likely even, that the moskals are using their churches in Ukraine to cause the same sort of problems that mosques cause in the Christian nations that the muzloids have built a bridgehead in? Why take the risk? Deport the employees to pootlerstan and replace them with Ukr orthodox.

      • Andrew Chmile

        Russo-mongolian BS LYING “Moscow patrriarch” SCUMBAG:
        below quote from:

        How Russia used Orthodox fundamentalism to hijack the Church Council in Cretehttp://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/20/how-russia-used-orthodox-fundamentalism-to-hijack-the-church-council-in-crete/

        Begin:
        “Indeed, after certain declarations of the Patriarchate of Moscow which wrongly affirmed
        that an “agreement has been reached that Ukraine
        belongs to the canonical territory of the Patriarchate of Moscow,”

        I.e. —- MONHOL “MAN OF GOD” — “wrongly affirmed” — LIED LIKE THE RUSKI SACK OF SH*T HE IS.

        “Father John Chryssavgis, a high official of the Ecumenical Patriarchate,
        clearly denounced these statements on March 2. He clarified
        that Patriarch Bartholomew had not renounced “his canonical and
        historical right to respond to the needs of the Christians of Ukraine as
        a daughter Church of Constantinople.”
        —————
        Everyone there KNOWS Ruski are BRAZEN. SHAMELESS LIARS.
        Esp. their “priests”!

        Read how one Ruski “priest” in Ukraine was “busted” for fighting with the Ruski …. weapon and all …. Preaching by day of course….

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f3f6a4e302a0c5a917fff25ce8e3e8856c901e389065f152a2864df6b8e4ab99.jpg

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      • RedSquareMaidan

        Exactly. In fact the first weapons into Donbas were sent to the ROC churches there. It really is a ruSSo-mafia syndicate.

        • Scradje

          Just as I feared. Just as the Catholic Church operated as a conduit for the IRA, which is an organisation with much in common with the kremlin murder gang. No doubt coincidentally Trumpkov is a fan of them too.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Trumpkov is more a fan of the Jews & Palestinian genocide.

          • Scradje

            Andrew, Jew-hating is for kremtrolls and other degenerates. Don’t go there man.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Not into “Jew-hating”.
            Scradje, you should have compassion for the Palestinians and for that matter, the Kurds.

            State sanctioned torture never had much appeal for me. Nor does lying.

          • Scradje

            The Kurds absolutely should have their homeland; and inside it should be an enclave for their distant cousins, the Yezidis, who have suffered persecution and genocide for 1400 years. They continue sadly to do so even to this day.

          • slavko

            Actually if Israel was to be destroyed then so should Jordan as they were both carved out of the same general area by the Palestinian Mandate. Now if the Palestinians could only get their sh*t together and get on with nation building along with peaceful co-existence then they would not have lost as much land as they have due to their own belligerent anti-Israel stance. Why didn’t they have a anti-Jordan stance?? Prior to that there was the Ottoman Empire that nobody wanted.

          • Geralt von RIva

            i think the time is over for this. palaestinensian had 1967 the chance as israel offered land for peace but the arrabs refused. so now it is a slow genocide as israel dont want the palaestinensian as citizen. i think it make no sense for the palestinensian to stay.

          • Andrew Chmile

            I shall quote you with 2 small “modifications”:

            “Now if the Ukrainians (Palestinians) could only get their sh*t together and get on
            with nation building along with peaceful co-existence then they would
            not have lost as much land as they have due to their own belligerent
            anti-Russian (Israel) stance.

            I also do NOT approve of PROPERTY THEFTS — OR GENOCIDE — even if — TO USE A TERM FREQUENTLY HEARD/READ — “precious Jews” do it.

            WTF is WRONG with you?
            Were you traumatized as a kid?
            Someone cut your KOK when you were little or something?

            You all fuked-up!

          • slavko

            You cannot equate Palestinians to Ukrainians. And your priorities are all messed up.

            IF the Palestinians had some record of human rights then you just might have an argument! But they don’t and neither do you. The fact is that Israel is an IMPROVEMENT in the Middle East.

            And another thing… you can go into Ukraine and enjoy a beer or a whiskey and a ham sandwich with horseradish. Now where in the Middle East can you do that? ONLY in Israel!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            You did NOT *directly* address my statement, i.e. a “modified” quotation of yours.

            Now, you wrote:

            “You cannot equate Palestinians to Ukrainians.”

            WRONG!

            “And your priorities are all messed up.”

            ?!
            I am against genocide and torture & land and human organ theft. All of which the Jews have done, are doing.

            “IF the Palestinians had some record of human rights”

            The Jews –State of Israel– have been forced to acknowledge they use TORTURE.
            They have also attacked Americans in numerous False Flag attacks as well as have committed piracy & murdered on the high seas in international waters.

            Stolen U.S. produced uranium for their ILLEGAL NUKES.

            Killed untold thousands of Egyptian prisoners of war, AFTER VIOLATING A CEASE FIRE AGREEMENT, in the 1973 war…

            Lots of documentation of the SLAUGHTER of Palestinian villages when the Jews were “founding Israel”. Besides the MANY VIOLATIONS of the U.N. Agreements they made when the U.N recognized them as a state & admitted them to the U.N.

            I could go on & on … recommend vids etc…

            “then you just might
            have an argument! But they don’t and neither do you. The fact is that
            Israel is an IMPROVEMENT in the Middle East.”

            Oh?
            Torture & genocide, land thefts, murder of prisoners of war, ILLEGAL COASTAL BLOCKADE, harassment of Christians & preventing free practice of Xtian worship FOR OUR VAST SUMS OF U.S. money & SELLING U.S. military secrets to the Chinese … Illegal human organ harvesting & selling … I could go on & on ….

            “And another thing…
            you can go into Ukraine and enjoy a beer or a whiskey and a ham sandwich
            with horseradish. Now where in the Middle East can you do that?”

            North Africa… i.e. Algeria, Morocco … & Egypt as well BTW … can get hash tool if you want… for WHITE SLAVERY though — you have to go to Israel.
            They are the #1 WHITE SLAVERY NATION ON THE PLANET.

            Mostly Ukrainian women. They lure or kidnap, desperate women and GIRLS, there for “jobs” then beat & gang rape them, take their passports … etc.. SELL them, ALL DAY, EVERY DAY … as many as possible. Not a “crime” in Israel … human trafficking that is. Besides, they are only “goy” you know. Christians. Just scum.

            “ONLY in Israel!!”

            You are wrong about the “ham sandwich” part. That WAS the case for a couple years LONG AGO, but they “cracked down in that sh*t as one Israeli proudly told me and that’s not there any longer.

            I won’t bother with 9/11. I have about 10 gigs of info. on that alone.

            White slavery in Israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=White+slavery+in+Israel

            israel human trafficking statistics
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=israel+human+trafficking+statistics

            organ trafficking in israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=organ+trafficking+in+israel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            Above is a bit of a misnomer, as the Jews run organ trafficking rings all over the world. As
            when a few rabbis were “busted” by the FBI in Hoboken, NJ. But the Jews go all over for
            “acquiring” organs, South America, etc… busted a few large rings in Ukraine as well.

            Lots of vids on even youtube on all the above.

            I suggest you do some reading on the topics above and not rely so much om “msm” — i.e. main stream media. Only 5 or 6 individuals or groups control 95% of all media in the U.S. dear slavko.

            I am NOT impressed by “heroic Jews” in U.S. jet fighters, BOMBING & STRAFING Gaza City & murdering Christians and Moslem in the most densely populated city on earth. This is besides butchery and savage, also COWARDLY.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09c0ece6381ecb59002cc4f70abe337d8c905b54833771e21b32d5ef3ca57458.png

          • Andrew Chmile
          • slavko

            Again… you have proved nothing at all. :)

          • Andrew Chmile

            There are also a “few” youtube VIDEOS of the Jews using LOTS of little boys as “shields”.

            Easy enough to GOOGLE this quote — RIGHT?

            Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.
            —- MENACHEM BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL

            As for what the EVIL JEWS do to Christian girls in Israel — GOOGLE IT!
            # 1 in WHITE SLAVERY *AND* PROSTITUTION!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/009ddc997d51e8212997e22c873f1742fac245e0c3e997c1f54017030e4d46e4.png

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2f6f8358aa4c6f9f112f0b9a2583c9908fca2ab36e9e61a3409d15b76122d79.jpg

          • slavko

            Is this what they taught you on Savushkina St… how to post anti Jewish videos? The fact remains today is that we are in the year of 2017. We are NOT in 1919, or 1939, or 1947… This is the year 2017! Now we can go forward without attachment to past memories.

          • Andrew Chmile

            This is what Prof. Norman Finkelstein taught me.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Is this what they taught you on Savushkina St… how to post anti Jewish
            videos? The fact remains today is that we are in the year of 2017. We
            are NOT in 1919, or 1939, or 1947… This is the year 2017! Now we can
            go forward without attachment to past memories.”

            Yep …. 2 Ruski **MOLES** up-voted you, te Ukrainski tuman!

            YOLLOP and fukn’ LYING SACK of sh*t — for you couldn’t DEAL with your Jew’worshipping, moslem hating IGNORANT BIGOTRY!

            SO YOU **LIE** — stupid faqqot!

          • slavko

            Something else that you have totally missed is that in the case of Kyivan Rus (Ukraine) it is a much older state than Muscovy (Russia). Israel throughout the ages has been known as the Kingdom of Israel. The Arabs in that area have never had a kingdom or a state. They are nomads, without borders. Now the Arab Muslim with their barbaric sharia based culture want to destroy Israel. Exactly as Russia with its barbaric Mongol based culture want to destroy Kyivan Rus aka Ukraine.

          • Andrew Chmile

            slavko ROTE:

            “Something else that you have totally missed is that in the case of
            Kyivan Rus (Ukraine) it is a much older state than Muscovy (Russia).”

            I know.

            ” Israel throughout the ages has been known as the Kingdom of Israel.”

            Actually as the kingdoms of Israel and Judea.

            ” The
            Arabs in that area have never had a kingdom or a state. They are nomads,
            without borders.”

            I disagree. Who invited the Jews to Egypt?
            (you are not much “into” the bible I see. :)
            After the “REAL” Egyptians were conquered that is, by various barbaric Semitic groups — Egypt was invaded or conquered by a succession of foreign powers, such as the Canaanites/Hyksos, the Assyrians …

            ” Now the Arab Muslim with their barbaric sharia based
            culture want to destroy Israel.”

            Sounds like a good thing in certain ways….
            Would have saved OVER 6 TRILLION $ & OVER A MILLION WOUNDED U.S. VETERANS…

            “Exactly as Russia with its barbaric
            Mongol based culture want to destroy Kyivan Rus aka Ukraine.”

            Wrong!
            Israel is a totally different *disease*. Ask some Jews!

            See recent post regarding White Slavery, Organ Trading, & again — ask Jews!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2fdcf2f8bf3317f2cf5a5e975837357049094912301f77864f0846b2a053c6a.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/30e4ddfa1da8474823b93fe2994a7607ae0dbcf4e8d428e0a682f36e39861fb0.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/009ddc997d51e8212997e22c873f1742fac245e0c3e997c1f54017030e4d46e4.png

          • slavko

            When Egypt agreed to peace with Israel then Israel returned Sinai to Egypt. Israel and Jordan coexist as well without incidents. Israel said the same to Syria regarding Golan Heights. Israel said the same to the Palestinian faction. Facts on the ground are that Israel controls territory within which there are greater freedoms than if they were under Palestinian control. Again try to find a shot of horilka or a ham sandwich anywhere in the Middle East besides Israel. In fact Muslims in Israel were surveyed and overwhelmingly declared to stay within the state of Israel rather than within an Islamic type of government.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Answered that above —- prob. “marked as spam”.

            YOU CAN”T GET A HAM SANDWICH THERE!

            For a couple years you could have — LONG AGO!

            An Israeli PROUDLY told me”
            “We cut that BS out years ago!”

            Want a ham sandwich & a beer?
            Go to North Africa, Turkey, Egypt, Moraco, Algeria — yeah ! Get some hash there too!

          • slavko

            You failed to mention Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Jordan as freedom loving places where one can get a ham sandwich and a shot of whiskey. Fact STILL is that Israel is a much better place to live than in those other Middle Eastern sh*tholes!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            WRONG!

            QUATAR, BAHRAIN, Gulf Emirates …. Saudi is nice — very nice IF you are a Moslem!

            ISRAEL IS ONLY A PARASITE OFF U.S. & GERMAN MONEY!!

            Xtians are HARASSED THERE!!! LOOK IT UP!

            Nor can they PRACTICE their religion, i.e. to TESTIFY …. or distribute literature.

            Christians spat on
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Christians+spat+on&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            SAUDIS DO **NOT** SPIT ON XTIANS!! — JEWS DO!!

            Christians spat on — IMAGES
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Christians+spat+on&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiV87ndvsrTAhVM8CYKHcJHBuoQ_AUIDCgD&biw=1024&bih=615&dpr=1

          • Andrew Chmile

            “You failed to mention Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Jordan as freedom
            loving places where one can get a ham sandwich and a shot of whiskey.
            Fact STILL is that Israel is a much better place to live than in those
            other Middle Eastern sh*tholes!!”

            You wrote earlier — that NO WHERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST CAN YOU GET A WHISKEY & HAM SANDWICH —- REMEMBER YOU **LIAR**?

            Arab EMIRATES are indeed FAR, FAR better then U.S. welfare supplied ISRAEL!
            No war either!
            & you can get EVERYTHING THERE!

            & **NO** ham sandwiches in Israel …. those “glory days” are GONE !! TRY TO KEEP UP!!!

            BUT!!! — In “HOLY Israel” you can get STOLEN ORGANS for sale — Ukrainian women & Ukrainian little girls (and boys as well!) as WHITE SEX SLAVES in HOLY Israel….

            So … Israel is for you … I’ll take the ham sandwich… and no Jews

          • Andrew Chmile

            Answered ALL that above….

            Did you know (1973) that your SCUMBAG Israel BUTCHERED THOUSANDS OF EGYPTIAN PRISONERS OF WAR — AFTER — BOTH ISRAEL AND EGYPT agreed to a ceasefire? — HOLY Israel then ignored it — encircled Egyptian units AND BUTCHERED THEM…

            Like their Judeo-Bolshevik Ruski & Jew ancestors did in Ukraine … if you knew anything that is … obviously you do not!

            How’s your “studies” on the SACRED HINDU SCRIPTS? :)))
            I like samosas — does that count?

            I cook Indian at times as well …. I MUST BE FEELING THE 350 million BS “gods” they have!! :)))

          • Andrew Chmile

            Burning Conscience Israeli Soldiers Speak Out
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Burning+Conscience++Israeli+Soldiers+Speak+Out&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            Israel Children celebrated successful 9/11 operation on Purim holiday

            Purim: A Festival of Hate and an Insight into How Jewish Supremacists view Gentiles
            http://tinyurl.com/ko8nf6v

            —————–
            Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.
            MENACHEM BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL
            — when he had Egyptian prisoners of war massacred, he was only following the Talmud.
            —————————-
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b64416552dc53572160f82785b35225bdbbde864b89d5f4533ae92545d3ae8dc.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d4be6ebd3fb20ab87948ab36d8afb3a4e5410281ce0f71f912e840c1e1b72c9.png

          • slavko

            youtube clips are hardly credible. Now you are emulating the Kremlin way of “not proving” anything 😀

          • Andrew Chmile

            Seem to be a LOT OF ENTRIES with that SAME SUBJECT — by the Israeli group.

            —————————
            Research these well known “topics” :
            White slavery in Israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=White+slavery+in+Israel

            israel human trafficking statistics
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=israel+human+trafficking+statistics

            organ trafficking in israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=organ+trafficking+in+israel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            Above is a bit of a misnomer, as the Jews run organ trafficking rings all over the world. As when a few rabbis were “busted” by the FBI in Hoboken, NJ. But the Jews go all over for “aquiring” organs, South America, etc… busted a large ring in Ukraine as well.

          • slavko

            My suggestion for you then is to go and defend Islam as a “righteous” way.

            There probably isn’t any innocent ethnic or religious group anywhere. Whether it be Jews, Muslim, Christian, Ukrainian Russian, English German, French or whatever possibility that exists out there. The one fact about the human species is that it is opportunistic… given the opportunity to be so. The second fact is that human beings are hypocrites especially if they are religious. This has been proven by the boy raping priests in Ireland, US among other places. :)

          • Andrew Chmile

            Ukes are VERY much more DECENT compared to ANY of that SWINE you mentioned.

            Hmm… seems “your (beloved) Jews” ain’t so hot … WHITE SLAVERY anyone?
            ORGAN TRADING — STEALING — HARVESTING anyone?

            9/11 anyone?

            “Israel celebrates successful 9_11 operation on Purim holiday” (google the title here & see the photo)

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f31259c8cb43cd44d551fc3968b824b1063c93567bc8f43fad88560c37afd46d.jpg

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/367e36d8ffbc2b34ad28b6a9d03c8ab0bdb0fee3d00a88e0e0768a91e7631080.png

          • Andrew Chmile

            “My suggestion for you then is to go and defend Islam as a “righteous” way.”

            I am not a JEW WORSHIPER like you — nor am I a MOSLEM HATER & WOULD BE MOSLEM CHILD KILLER LIKE YOU!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            slavko — this REALLY an inappropriate non-Ukr. related topic.

            As a passing, brief remark here & there, OK.
            But not to this extent.

            I can always discuss such matters with a Jew friend of mine.
            He will always lie though. :)

          • Geralt von RIva

            now i banned myself on fex fairytale channel also and can enjoy the coming summer and the garden^^

          • slavko

            I’m on my way out the door after you. Those dudes are just into cutting up people. Such is Islam as they describe and then they hide behind Allah.

          • Geralt von RIva

            the whole paulus story has another background. it was not the base for anti semitism as fex wants to tell, but it was the base for the christianisation of germans europe. we were no fans of circumcision. so the roman catholic church had to make some ritual changes and integrate some of our paganism to become acepted in europe. therefore were of course some church political statements necessary. but all this is not written down black on white, one must be able to read between the lines.
            yes, the argumentation is booring, because its close to a mathematical abstract thing. also, one cant argue faith. one has it or one has it not. you will not be able to make a christian from a muslim or the other way round. so its a lost time. and in case of ted its just whose God plssed the longest stream.

          • slavko

            None of the Europeans were fans of circumcision to my knowledge. Not the Vikings, nor the Slavs or the Celts or Druids nor the Germanic peoples. This circumcision is weird as it indicates a pathological need to exert control upon the helpless. Something sick there!

          • Geralt von RIva

            its not really clear what the reason for it was. but it seems that it started in desert regions. so northern and east africa but interestingly also independent from it in australia.

          • slavko

            Maybe it has to do with the display of “manliness”… like in why have a foreskin? Look! Always hard and ready!! Fake news!! 😉

            But seriously, when we consider where the greatest oppression of women are… why it’s in the patriarchal cultures. And Abraham is consider THE BIG KAHUNA… the Ultimate of Patriarchs by Judaism, Islam and Christianity. What is also interesting is that there are four Matriarchs too., but no one hears about them much. I wonder why. They are Sarah, Rebecca, Leah and Rachel.

          • Geralt von RIva

            yes i know^^. but for me somehow curious that independent in australia^^
            now you could ask your apaches and comanches also^^

          • slavko

            I’m sure that they must have had reason all their own. Perhaps the lack of water for proper hygiene or too much sand that the boys like to roll in, hence the lack of a foreskin would aid in preventing the abrasion. .. Don’t know.

            It’s enough for me to know that in today’s time there’s enough water and no need to roll around in dirt or to play with it with dirty hands or whatever… Most important for me is that I know that a child cries incessantly afterwards as it is a severe trauma no matter what spin one puts on the practice. In my opinion no “god” or “goddess” is worth it. If we believe in god then for me it’s enough to allow nature its beauty! :)

          • Andrew Chmile

            “But seriously, when we consider where the greatest oppression of women
            are… why it’s in the patriarchal cultures. And Abraham is consider THE
            BIG KAHUNA… the Ultimate of Patriarchs by Judaism, Islam and
            Christianity.”

            Nope!

            Not by Christians!

            Maybe by “Xtian ZIONISTS” :)))
            But not by Xtians!

            Xtians are to FOLLOW the NEW — not the OLD Testament.

            Maybe YOU — use the BS “Scofield Bible” :))))

            https://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/scofield_dees2.jpg

          • Andrew Chmile

            Jews do the same.
            ——————————
            Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.
            MENACHEM BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL

            — when he had Egyptian prisoners of war massacred, he was only following the Talmud.
            —————————-
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/005742683ee23374d19d724687072806d95ac1d2dc12d60414422d5c8f235b82.jpg

          • Andrew Chmile

            TWO RUSKI MOLES UP-VOTED YOU!

            Watch your schwantz!

          • Geralt von RIva

            i hold it already^^

          • Andrew Chmile

            Here … this is YTF “Christian Zionists” are so fked up in America.

            George Bush esp.!

            You can read about C. I. Scofield.

            Samuel Untermeyer owned him ….. Sam also BLACKMAILED Woodrow Wilson to put the first Jew on the Supreme Court & get the U.S. to enter WW1 & to fk EVERYTHING UP!

            You just got a real education if you follow that up.
            Which you won’t.

            https://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/scofield_dees2.jpg

          • Andrew Chmile

            seems my “replies” are called “spam”

            Was writting — many things — Israel is # 1 in WHITE SLAVERY … mostly Ukrainian girls. Kidnapped, lied to about jobs — even what country they are going to. Then beaten & gang raped.

            White slavery in Israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=White+slavery+in+Israel

            israel human trafficking statistics
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+%2Bwhite+slavery+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=israel+human+trafficking+statistics

            organ trafficking in israel
            https://www.google.com/search?q=organ+trafficking+in+israel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            Above is a bit of a misnomer, as the Jews run organ trafficking rings all over the world. As when a few rabbis were “busted” by the FBI in Hoboken, NJ. But the Jews go all over for “aquiring” organs, South America, etc… busted a large ring in Ukraine as well.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09c0ece6381ecb59002cc4f70abe337d8c905b54833771e21b32d5ef3ca57458.png

          • Andrew Chmile
          • Andrew Chmile
          • slavko

            Kremlin trolls post the same drivel 😀

          • Andrew Chmile

            So do Christians AND Americans.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Kremlin trolls post the same drivel :D”

            Who up-voted you here? ;))))))

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Israel throughout the ages has been known as the Kingdom of Israel.”

            KINGDOMS of Israel AND Judea.
            ——————-
            “The Arabs in that area have never had a kingdom or a state. They are nomads, without borders.”

            WRONG!!! — The Assyrians, Syrians, etc.. etc… the Hyxors INVITED the Jews to Egypt — as they were ALSO Semites that SAVAGED ancient Egypt & again — INVITED THEIR **FELLOW** –SEMITES– there.

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2fdcf2f8bf3317f2cf5a5e975837357049094912301f77864f0846b2a053c6a.jpg

          • slavko

            And Egypt has its own state. So does Syria. There was not a Jordan until the Palestinian Mandate. Yet Jordan did have it’s own historical kingdom as did Israel. The average Palestinian just moved about as borders were not set. Reminds me of what Putin said… “Russia has no borders.”

          • Andrew Chmile

            And the Jews **ABANDONED** Israel 2,000 years ago. A few stayed … most became Moslem or Xtian.

            “Abandoned Property Laws” — eh?

            Jews LIE (what else is new?) 7 have DARED to claim that the Roman Navy, having NOTHING better to do — SHIPPED ALL THE JEWS OUT! :))))

            See (when you have time):

            American Radical – The Trials Of Norman Finkelstein
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDqTKdFCTM

            Geralt may know about him.

            (7 min 4 this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dq2JMSCr-8 )

          • slavko

            If I had my way I would put a concrete wall a mile high around the Middle East. And if anyone wanted to go outside that wall, then they would have to leave everything that they learned behind.

          • Andrew Chmile

            DO IT AROUND **ISRAEL** — that would be FAR better!
            MORE EFFECTIVE!! — FOR ALL THE MIDDLE EAST!

            Just let the WHITE SLAVE Ukr. women out!

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09c0ece6381ecb59002cc4f70abe337d8c905b54833771e21b32d5ef3ca57458.png

          • slavko

            Whatever. You totally missed my point! Abraham belongs in jail!!

          • Geralt von RIva

            😀 he started it all

          • Geralt von RIva

            and this we do actually. thx to the refugees. so they were not so bad.

          • Andrew Chmile

            A DISTINCT society WAS forming — in PALESTINE.

            JEWS are the ones with “no borders” …. Jews “just moved about”

            RIGHT?

            From breadbasket to breadbasket…. RIGHT?

            So NOW — they have a HIDEOUT!!!
            Try extraditing a Jew!

          • slavko

            You have succeeded in your quest to totally deviate from the subject matter and to plaster more anti Jewish slander just like a good Kremlin troll. I have yet to see you post anything constructive beyond hateful BS. You pick on people and accuse them of everything under the sun. Look at yourself first before writing.

            Quite honestly I have no time for you or your cr*p. IF you happen to be pro-Ukrainian then you are one hateful person where no one seems to be exempt from your spite. But I doubt that you are pro-Ukrainian very much. All that you ever do is post divisive nonsense and your methodology of “proof” is similar to those employed by the Kremlin whose only aim is to paint the Ukrainian people as “sub-human”. And lo and behold here you are painting yourself as “sub-human”.

          • Andrew Chmile

            IGNORANT ANTI-MOSLEM BIGOT ROTE:

            “You have succeeded in your quest to totally deviate from the subject
            matter and to plaster more anti Jewish slander just like a good Kremlin
            troll. I have yet to see you post anything constructive beyond hateful
            BS. You pick on people and accuse them of everything under the sun. Look
            at yourself first before writing.”

            (((& DO N.B. 2 “for real” — Ruski *MOLES* up-voted you! :)))

            Just because *YOU* want to DEMONIZE moslems — AND PRAISE THE (as they like to say & write) “precious Jews” — that is COMPLETE BS!

            The murderous, war mongering, land stealing, torturing, **LYING**, child killing, WHITE SEX SLAVERS, ORGAN STEALING, SCHEMING people here are VERY well known. Go read your msm (main stream media) IGNORANT, BIGOTED ant-moslem JEW WORSHIPING “politically correct” propaganda.

            START A FEW WARS FOR JEWS!!! — USE “GOY” LIVES!!
            AS “GOY” ARE JUST ANIMALS PER THEIR BS “RELIGION” YOU IGNORANT, BRAINWASHED **RACIST** “politically correct” DOLT!

            Maybe you can help the find the JEW WHITE SEX SLAVERS some good looking Ukrainian women & little girls to sell to Israel.

            The WHITE SEX SLAVE CAPITOL OF THE WORLD.
            (organ stealing & trading too!)

            “All gentile women without exception are: “Niddah, Shifchah, Goyyah and Zonah” (menstrual filth, slaves, heathens and prostitutes).”
            —BT Sanhedrin 81b – 82a.

            So it’s “alright” for Jews to do that to Ukrainian (primarily) women, in HOLY ISRAEL, as they deserve it, right slavko?

            ——————————-
            And as for Palestinians — whom you VICIOUSLY ATTACKED:

            HERE — you can “get off” on this — I know that Jews SMILE at this:

            AP Erases Video of Israeli Soldier Shooting Palestinian Boy URL
            http://tinyurl.com/mp3hm42
            ————————————–

            I think you should call Prof. Norman Finkelstein a “JEW HATER!!!” :)

            “Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
            ———– John, 8:44

          • Vasyl P.

            We upvote comments when they are deserved. That’s why Slavko got upvoted, while you hardly do. MSM doesn’t show love for Jews. They show love and sympathy to the same people who threaten death for blasphemy against Muhammad, kill gays and oppress women. These are not morals that belong in the West. Judaism however conforms better in our society, and we see this. Israel is one of the most developed nations in the world, and only Japan and South Korea passes it in terms of quality of life. Muslim nations however aren’t even close, not even the UAE or Qatar. Also Israel protects its Muslims. Muslims don’t want to leave Israel because they’re treated more fair there than in “Palestine” unlike what MSM says.

            Also, God is with Israel as He promised long ago. He helped Israel win the wars in 1949 and 1967 (both times they were GREATLY outnumbered in population and manpower) and protected Israel countless other times. A scientific report on Israel’s survivability even stated that Israel before survived “due to sheer luck.” Scientific studies almost NEVER use Luck as a conclusion.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Total populist *IGNORANCE* & TOTAL LIES!

            “MSM doesn’t show love for Jews.”
            IS JEW! :)))
            Like you are pure LYING PUTIN!

            So DO TELL, YTF DID your “moderatot Ruski troll uglu lying KUNT, “Susannah”
            write that “Crimea is really Russian” — AND STEADFASTLY *REFUSED& slavko’s REPEATED QUESTIONS on further clarification on that?

            Is there something here I (& slavko) do not understand?

            I am MOST SURE, you will INTELLIGENTLY, explain such very well! :))))

            Scofield Bible by David Dee

            https://fitzinfo.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/scofield_dees2.jpg

          • Andrew Chmile

            “We upvote comments”

            There is no *WE* — you POS MOLE/TROLL RUSKI!

            Only *WE* here is you monhols… — AGAINST **US**
            –the rest — among “us” are mere differences of opinion & knowledge.

            That’s YTF you mole/trolls always suk each other’s diks — like the GOOD LITTLE
            Ruski pederase most of you appear to be.

            Yum! Yum! — eh monhol? 😉

          • Vasyl P.

            There is a “We”. We are supporters of Ukraine who want Russia out of Ukraine and other occupied countries AND for them to give back control of what they’ve illegally taken. You however want genocides likes true Nazzi would. The vast majority of us Ukraine supporters judge people on their qualities and their drives, not on their ethnicity like you and your Nazzi thinking. I can tell you while there are ethnic Ukrainians fighting in Donbas, there are also ethnic Russians there supporting Ukraine, and risking more than you ever have risked for Ukraine. Yet you’d spit on them and call them Moskali trash still.

          • Andrew Chmile

            You said NOTHING.

            As for Moskal thrash like you … I have already opined upon.

            Hmm … Ruski … should (and ARE) have a population reduction… a severe one… AIDS, booze… are WELL beyond anything like it in Ukraine or anywhere else :)))

            … also hard drugs & the native Ruski invention of “crokodil” …. yeah …. :))

            Stupid people. INFERIOR!!!

            Ukes OTOH, have —- HOPE!
            Ruski are HEMNO!

            “Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
            ———– John, 8:44

          • Vasyl P.

            You just called the anti-Putin ethnic Russians helping Ethnic Ukrainians fight for Ukraine Moskali trash, you truly are Nazzi trash

          • Andrew Chmile

            “You just called the anti-Putin ethnic Russians helping Ethnic Ukrainians fight for Ukraine Moskali trash”

            LYING RUSKI FILTH & SCUMBAG!

            NOT THEM! :)

            Just ones like YOU!!!
            Which are *MOST* of them! :)
            Right you **MOLE**?

            You never answered about “Susannah” ruska kurva MOLE & MODERATOR saying “Crimea is really Russian” :))))

            Just take your fkn’ monhol BLOOD MONEY!!!

            SCUM!

          • Vasyl P.

            “Ones like me”? What are those ones exactly? Why are you flip-flopping on your statements? Are you afraid your already fragile reputation here will finally crash with your futile Nazzi tactics here?

            Also I’m not Suzanna’s babysitter, so no need to treat me like one. I don’t explain for other people, I explain for myself. Ask her.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Also I’m not Suzanna’s babysitter, so no need to treat me like one. I don’t
            explain for other people, I explain for myself. Ask her.”

            Stupid ruska kurva, isn’t she? :)

            Give her “my love” :)

            Did her baby —– DIE!!!!!! In Donbas too? :)))))))
            A–Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y–Y-eeeeeee!!!!!! :)))))

          • Andrew Chmile

            LOOK AT THESE DISGUSTING RUSSO_MONGOLIAN SCUMBAGS!!! :)))

          • Vasyl P.

            Cool, I’m not even in the ROC so what’s your point?

          • Andrew Chmile

            That Ruski are no fkn’ good but OF COURSE!! — MORON!

            … AND … they are DAMNED — worse than Jews or moslems actually.
            For they denied the light they had, for yea!
            They are evil as sh*t Ruski!

          • Vasyl P.

            I’m not evil :)

            I don’t spew out racism and hate 😀

          • Andrew Chmile

            Oh yeah …. DON’T FORGET TO “STUK” ON ME!!!

            Seein’ as how you be a STUKACH!!! an’ all….

            When I tol’ you to do that — y’all said you don’ use
            Ruski TROLL TACTICS like me….

            You be a FORGETTING — about ALL YO’ & yo’ fellow RUSKI TROLLS trying that …. & WHINING AT YOUR LACK OF ‘success” —

            Besides being a *RUSKI* STUKACH, from a FAMILY of **RUSKI** STUKACHI —- you are, besides a *RUSKI* LIAR —- quite STUPID as well….. Goes with being Ruski ….. doesn’t it —eh STUKACH?

            Did you STUK on a few of your fellow employees there? 😉

            Bet you have! 😉
            Article in The Moscow Times:
            “SNITCHING MAKES A COMEBACK IN RUSSIA”

            RUSKI! :) — scum!!!

          • Vasyl P.

            Woo, Andrew’s mad! Look at that bad “Anglish” coming out! Anyway you don’t know jack about my family, so good luck trying to prove those claims. Once again you show your Nazzi side, judging everything by race than by chatacter

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Anyway you don’t know jack about my family, so good luck trying to prove those claims.”

            I *KNOW* you are a fookin’ *LYING* Ruski *STUKACH*.

            That is LEARNED behavior! That comes from “home”.

            You come from a TYPICAL SCUMBAG Russo-mongolian family. THRASH!

          • Vasyl P.

            Your Nazzi views are also learned behavior.

            And you know? I’ve been asking for proof of me for days now, yet you turn up nothing, just like your master Putin

          • Andrew Chmile

            You mean about *YOUR* posting how you SNITCHED (STUK) ON ME TO Euromaiden Press,
            REPEATEDLY, and was most disappointed that they IGNORED YOUR (& other monhols) BS? — A RUSKI TROLL TACTIC– TO SILENCE OTHERS? :)

            Then **YOU** wrote that’sa TROLL TACTIC “that ONLY a (Russian) Troll would use”.

            Remember STUPID? :))))

            HYPOCRITE!!! LIAR!!! RUSKI!!! POS!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “I’ve been asking for proof of me for days now, yet you tur…”
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

            USE “ANGLISH”!!! — NOT “MONHOL” !!!! STUPID RUSKI!!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Also I’m not Suzanna’s babysitter, so no need to treat me like one. I
            don’t explain for other people, I explain for myself. Ask her.”

            So anyway, … as BOTH you Ruski MOLE/TROLLS work in the same office, WHY DID SHE WRITE THAT “Crimea is really Russian anyway” & REFUSE TO ANSWER slavko’s questions on her RUSSIAN PROPAGANDA STATEMENT despite REPEATED ATTEMPTS ON HIS PART?

            WHY does that DISQUS RUSKI MOLE/TROLL SITE “Ukraine Today”
            (((an ILLEGAL RUSSIAN **MOLE** COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT btw — I’ll get to that later! :) ))

            USE RUSSIAN TODAY & SPUTNIK COMMUNIST ARTICLES? :)

            —————–copy & GENERAL WARNING

            ATTENTION!!! — RUSKI ANIMAL **MOLE** INFILTRATOR & TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

            “Vasyl P.” — Ruski *MOLE* — A LIAR !!
            — Another RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “TRUMP SUPPORTER” :)))

            HE IS A RUSKI **MOLE** & “moderator” of a RUSKI MOLE-TROLL SITE — with SPUTNIK & VARIOUS OTHER RUSKI COMMIE ARTICLES @ VARIOUS “DISQUS CHANNELS” like:

            __UKRAINE TODAY USA__
            (ABOVE NOW CHANGED TO: “UKRAINE TODAY” — to make it appear as the former & REAL “Ukraine Today” news station from Ukraine – now ceased operating, which provided REAL news as opposed to PLAGIARIZING from other news groups & “slipping in” Russo-mongolian COMMIE NEWS from RUSSIA TODAY & SPUTNIK (besides operating and infiltrating from dirty Russia, NOT UKRAINE).

            Other Russo-mongolian controlled “Disqus Channel” Communist Front sites are:

            __THE PRESIDENT TRUMP CHANNEL__ (of course! :)

            __IMPERIAL NEWS NETWORK__ (should be called Russo-mongolian IMPERIALIST News Network)

            __Conservative News Views__ (should be COMMIE News Views)

            etc.. BS “Disqus Channels”

            (FREE!! CHEAP!!! So the Russo-mongolian communists use this!!!)

            LYING RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “Vasyl P.” CLAIMS ON HIS DISQUS PAGE (when not hiding it the way most Ruski Trolls & Moles do:

            https://disqus.com/by/Vapetrenko/
            Right-wing freedom fighter; pro-democracy, anti-corruption, anti-feminazis, anti-fascist, Russian, Ukrainian, American
            ————————–

            Has claimed to be Ukrainian AND American — IS NEITHER!!

            SPOKE RUSKI AT ME — Thinking I would (or should?!?!) understand that NASTY, U-G-L-E-E DOG BARK & GROWL LANGUAGE.

            One gang member:
            “Larissa” (now “♥ L ♥”) — a “MODERATOR” MOLE/TROLL & the OTHER SCUM — will ALL tell you how “Larissa” —

            Was “shelled” by artillery in Ukraine and: “LOST HER ONLY CHILD IN DONBAS!!!!”

            A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!!! FEEL FOR ME!!!
            Nasty lying Ruski slüt! :)))

            Another RUSKI SKANK ‘HO — whined about being “I WAS RAPED” !!!!
            – as announced per her Disqus home page no less!!!! :))
            — she deleted it after I repeatedly posted & laughed at her DUM RUSKI LOW CLASS THRASH @SS for that:

            PITY POOR HER! A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!

            HA! Is the Ruski BS “most high cleverness & is the foolink you!!!” :))

            They try to play on the White Man’s sympathy! They do that BS!
            NEVER TRUST THOSE RUSSIAN PIGS — They just about all have AIDS! They are DIRTY! They might pass it on to you via a modem and their lying postings.

            .. besides their being stupid & sneaky POS, the “women” have …. “odor issues” because they don’t know how to keep themselves ( & ‘it”) clean. Very serious about that! — Don’t go into a Russian elevator in summer! Ruski female “habits”.

            — A VERY DIRTY & BRUTAL BUNCH — ALWAYS!!!

          • Vasyl P.

            I work in the troll office? You attack me AT SET TIMES every day. Is that when you come into the office?

          • Andrew Chmile

            You LIE!!!
            There are many days I don’t bother to post!
            YOU POST AS PER YOUR RUSKI MOLE/TROLL SCHEDULE!!!

            You just want my attention, as you are ANOTHER Ruski homosexual mole/troll!

          • Vasyl P.

            Yea keep telling yourself that, you express much Kremlin mentality

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Yea keep telling yourself that, you express much Kremlin mentality”
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

            Like your “Anglish” language “skills”? :)))

            Ignorant MONHOL faqqot! 😉

          • Vasyl P.

            English skills that appear to be better than yours.

          • Andrew Chmile

            @ Ruski **MOLES** up-voted you! :))

            & YOU called *ME* a “Kremtroll” you DUM **LYING** FK!!!

            For YOU KNOW that is a DELIBERATE ***LIE** !!
            You HYPOCRITE!

            First the Ruski … no doubt the polaks in time, as you have ALREADY
            made a point of licking their srake! :)))

            Did you REALLY expect “a lick back” — you UKIE VIRGIN!!! :)))

            SUCKERS FOREVER !!!!!! eh slavko? 😉

            Ukrainski KRETIN alright!
            You proved it to them as well!
            YOLLOP!

          • Vasyl P.

            That’s because you display characteristics of a Kremlin troll. You insult anything and everything not fitting under your narrow beliefs. You spew out constant hate to Ukraine supporters and trying to get them to fight each other, just like Putin did with Donbass. You flame Jews, Israel and their wish for friendlier relations with their neighbours, exactly like what Ukraine wants. You accuse everyone of being a “Russian mole” without any proof of backing it up. We however rarely, if ever, see you preach positivity about Ukraine without advocating abuses against Poles, Russians, Serbians and others, even the pro-Ukrainian ones.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Liar.

            & Israel is anti-Ukrainian & pro Russian, if you knew more.
            And obviously you do not.

            Serbs fight against Ukraine like you Russo-mongolians do.

            polaks are mostly, by % survey, anti-Ukr. & the “laker48” polak is also anti-Ukr.
            in terms of lying about Ukr. history & in his “max Canada” account,
            not used now as he was exposed — oddly by the “focusser1” MOLE. :)

            Ukraine’s fight for freedom is NOT like Israel’s THEFT OF LAND & TORTURE & “SLOW-GENOCIDE” of Palestinians & violations of international law & decency … same as you
            Russo-mongolians…. you are both after all, Asiatic & lack morals.

            I also liked much earlier your PRIMITIVE monhol understanding of Christianity :)))

          • Vasyl P.

            Israel supports the US and its policies, MUCH more than even the UK And Australia support the US. The US shows more interests in Ukraine, and it’s rubbing on Israel. They aren’t anti-Ukraine or anti-Ukrainian.

            Poland is also one of THE most anti-Russia and one of the most pro-American countries in the world. Although Poles and Ukes have sour points, it’s nothing compared to what Poles faced with Russia. Poland and the Baltics understand Ukraine much more than most countries do because like Ukraine, Russia also took over their lands forcefully and started wars there. The four (as well as the Czechs) supported action against Russia more than many of the other deadbeat EU nations. They want to build better ties with Ukraine.

            Also what should my primitive view of Christianity? Is it before the Trinity bulls**t where Jesus was the ACTUAL son of God who was taught to love each other? Christianity during Paul’s era? I find that a compliment, as That’s the type of Christianity I follow, not the headchopping, witch-burning Catholic/Orthodox traditions that happened during the Middle Ages, as well as the bullcrap they came up with (although I definitely support the reforms done).

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Israel supports the US and its policies,”

            You are either a liar or a moron. A mix of both most likely.
            For you are most likely pandering I suspect.

            No it does not.
            Was ABSENT in the UN vote on Ruski sanctions.
            Hides Ukr, Jew criminals & white slavers/ etc.. etc.. & refuses to extradite them.

            Was bout to sell drones to U. thn refused to supply drones to Ukr.
            Putin told Jews not to.
            — supplied them to Russia.

            Sold U.S. military secrets/technology to China… I can go on … would you like me to? :)
            Or will you SUDDENLY change topics? :)

            The term “the perfidious Jew” is an ancient one.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Poland and the Baltics understand Ukraine much more than most countries
            do because like Ukraine, Russia also took over their lands forcefully
            and started wars there.”

            NO!
            Polaks do NOT “understand Ukraine”.

            Survey showed polaks are mostly hostile to U.

            Polaks never wanted a free U. & tried to destroy language, culture & people like the monhols did. Only ONE that TRULT understands U are the LITHUANIANS.

            They had to deal with scumbag, lying, destroying, invading polak animals as well!

            Also — ONLY THE LITHUANIANS WERE SUPPLYING U. WITH “LETHAL WEAPONS”.

            NO ONE ELSE DID!

            Polaks were just BARKING & LYING … like they always do… them & the Ruski like doing that.

            You oughtta know 😉

          • Andrew Chmile

            “The US shows more interests in Ukraine, and it’s rubbing on Israel.”

            :)))))

            Is that YTF Trump’s proposed budget SLASHES military aid to U. from$350 million to $150 million? — BUT BILLIONS & BILLIONS MORE — fot a sh*tty *USELESS* desert RAT HOLE like Israel?

            Is that why scumbag Israel REJECTED Ukrainian Prime Minister Groysman (JEW!!!) from making an official visit to that RAT SH*T DESERT HOLE & ***WHITE SLAVERY** (Ukrainian women & GIRLS mostly) CAPITOL OF THE WORLD? :))

            Google it!
            IDGAF about **LYING** !!! — That’s for YOUR SCUMBAG KIND!

            Trump & the Jews SOLD Ukraine already! :)))

            You have my FB account — if you wanna see…
            This GREAT RUSKI ANGER BS — about “missile strikes in SYRIA!!!!” — When the U.S. gave ADVANCE WARNING to Russia — is all a big game to “save Trump!!! — & the Ukraine deal>” — YTF Trump took out the “Ukraine campaign plank”? :)

            & Putin MOST MYSTERIOUSLY sold 16.% of Rosneft? :)))

            But …. do your BS RUSKI troll/mole game… SCUM PEOPLE — monhol people…

            https://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/super-zionist-trump.jpg?w=547&h=307

          • Vasyl P.

            Here’s another sign of a Kremtroll: blaming everything on Jews and Israel. Israel isn’t useless, it is one of the most innovative countries in the world. It has some of the best defense technology in the world, on par with Seoul South Korea, but when you have Palestinians and Hamas launching rockets at Israel 24/7, and the fact that Israel had a fraction of what Hamas has, it’s even more proof of God’s promise still applying. It took the Holocaust for Jews to reform, but until something major happens to Muslims, they’re still going to preach murder.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”
            ———– John, 8:44

            Who was the audience there, you dumb sh*t?

          • Vasyl P.

            Are you cherry picking the Bible?

            For every verse saying Jews were of the devil, there’s a dozen more saying they’re the chosen people of God. God was extra harsh against them due to the covenant He had with the Jews. Christ will come again and this time he will be accepted by the Jews. I unfortunately can’t say the same about Islam.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Are you cherry picking the Bible?”

            Not hardly mo’ fo’!
            The “good Jews” became Christians then, did they not?

            “Christ will come again and this time he will be accepted by the Jews.”

            It will be too late then! :)))

            “I unfortunately can’t say the same about Islam.”

            A most curious phenomenon is sweeping Moslem lands. People report having dreams of Christ & converting.

            Meanwhile, Ruski “Christians” —- are being damned!
            Too bad!
            Not my problem!

            Ukes don’t do sh*t like that!
            It’s like when those DISGUSTING ***SERBIAN*** priests bless the peckers of Serbian RAPISTS! ***SERBIAN*** FILTH — LIKE RUSKI!!! UGH!!!

            BURN BABY BURN!!!

            http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/56215fdd9dd7cc19008c29aa-1240-827/cq-ahauwgaadogs.jpg

          • Vasyl P.

            When Muslims convert, they’re no longer Muslims.

            Or are you doing the racist stereotypes that all Muslims are Arab?

            Once again you cannot make one post without a negative stereotype of an ethnicity. Your Nazzi is showing again, Andrew.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “When Muslims convert, they’re no longer Muslims.
            Or are you doing the racist stereotypes that all Muslims are Arab?
            Once again you cannot make one post without a negative stereotype of an ethnicity. Your Nazzi is showing again, Andrew.”

            :) You REALLY ARE stupid!
            You always “think” like this? :)

            You “think” it’s “clever” — or you just wanna get paid?

          • Vasyl P.

            You know I’m correct. I can tell from your lack of words.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Or are you doing the racist stereotypes that all Muslims are Arab?’

            ??? !!!! — You are a RUSSIAN IDIOT!

            Probably genetic….. Yo’mama & the monhol that inseminated her dirty, Ruski smelling kunt were both stupid.

            Give this to yo’ Ruska mama! NASTY THING RUSKAS ARE!

            https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Why+does+my+vagina+smell&ei=UTF-8&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001

          • Andrew Chmile

            New Testament SUPERSEDES the Old Testament —- STUPID, ***IGNORANT*** Ruski ATHEIST SCUMBAG!!!

          • Vasyl P.

            both are important actually. Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.

          • Andrew Chmile

            WRONG!!!

            “both are important actually. Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            AND A **COMPLETE** RUSKI UNEDUCATED LIE!!!

            STUPID IGNORANT RUSSO-MONGOLIAN ATHEIST!!!

            STAY WITHIN YOUR LEVEL!!!

            STUPID RUSKI SCUM!!! INFERIOR!!! FILTH!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            Oh? — And WHERE AND WHAT DID HE ACTUALLY SAY TO THAT EFFECT?

            YOU LIE!!!
            RUSKI HERETIC & LYING IGNORANT SCUMBAG!!!
            Faqqot!

            And you probably say, like many Ruski do, that the bible says it’s alright to suk diks!!!
            ANOTHER RUSKI LIE!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “both are important actually. Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            YOU ARE VERY, VERY NO CHRISTIAN!!!
            I am STILL ASTOUNDED BY THE ABOVE! :))

            “Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            Oh? :)))
            And again — WHERE TF did He say *THAT*??? !!!

            IGNORANT Ruski ATHEIST cretin!

            DAM BUT YOU ARE **STUPID** !!!
            EVEN FOR A RUSSIAN!!!

          • Vasyl P.

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17–18)

          • Andrew Chmile

            Stupid!
            You got it RIGHT HERE & STILL DON’T KNOW IT!!

            “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”

            **TO FULFILL THEM** GET IT MONHOL?

            Thus again! — The NT *SUPERSEDES* THE OT!

            I can have a HAM SANDWICH!
            I DO NOT HAVE TO CUT &/or SUK KOKS LIKE JEWS & YOU RUSKI!!!

            The NT SUPERSEDES THE OT!
            Christ FULFILLED *ALL* THE LAWS & *ALL* THE PROPHETS!!!

            Your “understanding is 😉 …. most primitive!

            Christ was/is the TOTALITY OF ALL!

            Bet you believe in the Apocryphal Books as well :)
            SCUMBAG!!!!
            & Esther no doubt…. moron!

          • Vasyl P.

            Fulfill means to carry out something, while abolish means to completely throw them away. And you say I have the bad English. LOL

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Fulfill means to carry out something,
            while abolish means to completely throw them away. ”
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

            You are illiterate!

          • Vasyl P.

            How so? You’re the one who couldn’t define the two terms.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “both are important actually”

            WHICH ONE **COUNTS** — you monhol? 😉

          • Vasyl P.

            Both do.

          • Andrew Chmile

            YOU ARE IGNORANT!

            ONE **SUPERSEDES** THE OTHER — RIGHT STUPID RUSKI HERETIC?

            They can NOT possibly be of EQUAL importance which is what your above statement IMPLIES!

            For such would be a CONTRADICTION! — RIGHT OR WRONG — STUPID!!

            Hmm…
            Well … they DO cut & suk koks a lot in Russia… But they DO eat ham sandwiches … when they can afford them or can steal them.

            Trolls no longer get a “free lunch”?
            Do you have kasha now”

            In the US it’s primarily used to feed pigs — Ruski too I guess :)))

          • Vasyl P.

            Both have important concepts in them. The NT quotes the OT, while Jesus taught in the NT. If the OT wasn’t important then neither the NT nor Jesus would quote them.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Both have important concepts in them.”

            You did not answer. You are IGNORANT, RUSSIAN, WEAK *AND* STUPID!
            Rather all goes together come to think about it…

            “The NT quotes the OT, ”

            Yeah, so what?

            “while Jesus taught in the NT. ”
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

            Huh? Try “Anglish”!

            Christ quoted Deuteronomy most of all. So what?
            He also quoted Rabbinic writtings — “It is said..” so what”

            “If the OT wasn’t important then neither the NT nor Jesus would quote them.”

            “…neither the NT nor Jesus..”
            STUPID THING TO WRITE!
            ALL SCRIPTURE IS VALID!

            “”If the OT wasn’t important then neither the NT nor Jesus would quote them.”

            DONE FOR ILLUSTRATION AS HE WAS GIVING NEW REVELATIONS.
            NEW DIRECTIONS.

            Read HEBREWS ignorant, EVIL Russo-mongolian MOLE/TROLL!

            You are an idiot!
            Done with you for now!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            But He did — didn’t He? — stupid!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Jesus said he wasn’t there to completely overturn the law.”

            But He did. :)
            New ballgame in town STUPID! …. :)

          • Vasyl P.

            He didn’t overturn them, he had a different interpretation of them from what the OT prophets did. Now instead of adultery being actual encounters, Jesus said even lusting after someone’s wife is adultery. It’s interpretation, so it became his law.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “It’s interpretation, so it became his law.”

            You really are VERY untutored!

            WRONG!!!

            Learn the concepts of: “LAW” and “GRACE”.

          • Vasyl P.

            You say Wrong without any proof more than Donald Trump does. LOL

          • Andrew Chmile

            “You say Wrong without any proof more than Donald Trump does. LOL”

            I merely used Aristotelian Logic.

            You monhol @ssholes always have a problem with such I have noticed.
            Curious indeed! :)

          • Andrew Chmile

            “.. and the fact that Israel had a fraction of what Hamas has, it’s even more proof of God’s promise still applying.”

            You mean, the Palestinians have a lot more F-16s than Israel does? :)))
            Try thinking before writing STUPID Ruski!

          • Vasyl P.

            Had a fraction of deaths. I missed a few words, whatever, but it doesn’t change the fact that Israel just seeks peace with their neighbors, we see that several times.

          • Andrew Chmile

            “Had a fraction of deaths. I missed a few words, whatever,”

            SO LEARNA DA ANGLISH, OR DON’T POST IN THE “more prestigious” HIGHER PAYING FOR RUSKI MOLES & TROLLS “ANGLISH SECTION” YOU IGNORANT, UNEDUCATED MONHOL POS!

            “but it
            doesn’t change the fact that Israel just seeks peace with their
            neighbors, we see that several times.”

            BY STEALING LAND & WATER YOU MEAN? :)))

            HUMAN ORGANS AS WELL — LOTS OF PALESTINIANS HAVE “MYSTERIOUSLY”
            — “LOST” THEIR ORGANS…. ISRAELI SCUM !!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            JEWS STEAL U.S. TECHNOLOGY STUPID!

            Israel steals U.S. tech
            https://www.google.com/search?q=Israel+steals+U.S.+tech&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

            The concept of “THE PERFIDIOUS JEW is an ancient one!

            Jews BETRAY even their “CLOSEST ALLIES” — don’t they?

            Just like you Russo-mongolians — RIGHT?
            You are BOTH — ASIATIC PEOPLES after all..

          • Vasyl P.

            They created much more than stolen.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Oh? :)

            PROVE IT!! :)

            YOU CAN’T!! — You merely **LIE** & “make it up as you go along” for you are DISHONEST & STUPID like most RUSKI!

            YOU LIE LIKE THE **IGNORANT** INFERIOR, UNEDUCATED RUSSO-MONGOLIAN (or “ruski educated” actually! :))) FILTH YOU ARE!!!

            “P’tfu!” — I spit in your Ruski MOLE/TROLL FACE!!!

            Go TROLL IN YOUR OTHER ACCOUNTS!!! — STUPID Monhol FILTH!

          • Andrew Chmile
          • Geralt von RIva

            Hamburg was bombed with white phosphor in 43. burnt people look different. black, smaller and cramped. muscles contract when overheated. and they have no hair. really no hair. not even eyebrows

          • Andrew Chmile
          • Geralt von RIva

            put the palaestinensian aside. i am back. what is the status in ukraine?^^

          • Andrew Chmile

            Check out EuroMad.. Press ….

            ALSO — my “love” post for the coward & anti-German, anti-Uke “laker48” — if you wanna see… EXPOSED!!!

            Also Unian
            https://www.unian.info/

            “laker” — *SWINDLES* WIDOWS WITH KIDS!! Serious!

          • Geralt von RIva

            german board

            “Klitschko loses World Cup fight against Joshua”

            CM Conny M. 18 min ago
            This career is now over. He was not a bad boxer.
            What now ? President of Ukraine?

          • Andrew Chmile

            Probably politics.

            Or a possible “come back attempt” — as he was doing VERY WELL at certain times during the fight. — But why bother with ALL THAT?

            Btw — “Mike” the Serb, that hates Germans AND you?
            Now he calls himself “M” — he mentioned you —- as “the Serb hating German”.

            It is a very good thing to hate Serbs …. they are the Russians of the Balkins as a Ruski friend of mine called them. TOTAL SCUM!

            ANIMAL people!

            Women’s Bodies a Battlefield in War for “Greater Serbia” URL

            http://www.washingtonreport.me/1993-april-may/women-s-bodies-a-battlefield-in-war-for-greater-serbia.html

          • Geralt von RIva

            the father of our serbian friends said he would only allow his son become drafted to take part in these wars when milosevic would send his sons also. else he would sent his son to montenegro for vacation.

          • Andrew Chmile

            DRESDEN etc… was a WAR CRIME!

            My Jew friend SMILED every time I describe DRESDEN.
            (or the Holodomor)

            When I told him about that — he denied it, each time! — VIGOROUSLY!

            I told him, he is a Jew & all screwed up!!
            He understands.

          • Geralt von RIva

            might be, but we were also no choirboys.

          • Andrew Chmile

            Germans were nothing like those Russo-mongolian ANIMALS!!!

            In comparison — they WERE “choirboys”.
            You should read more…

            The Judeo-bolsheviks were TOTAL SCUM!

          • Vasyl P.

            I always found it fascinating that people make Israel the bogeyman in the Middle East, even though Israel offered to give up land (and even did with the Sinai Peninsula) for peace and for recognition of a Jewish state. I think this video explains it well.

          • Scradje

            Prager has it exactly right. One side, which happens to be a fake state, wants the other side dead. The other side just wants to live in peace with its neighbour. Similarly, pootlerstan itself also being a fake state since most of it was stolen from others, wants the other side dead. Or living under pootlerstan domination which is just as bad. No wonder the kremlin murder gang enjoys such close alliances with izlamo-naзi regimes such as Syria, Iran and its Chechen dominion, it has the same malevolent mindset of ‘entitlement’as those who would anhilate Israel if they could.

          • Andrew Chmile

            You are a LYING Russo-mongolian ***MOLE***.
            ————————————–
            ATTENTION!!! — RUSKI ANIMAL **MOLE** INFILTRATOR & TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

            “Vasyl P.” — Ruski *MOLE* — A LIAR !!
            — Another RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “TRUMP SUPPORTER” :)))

            HE IS A RUSKI **MOLE** & “moderator” of a RUSKI MOLE-TROLL SITE — with SPUTNIK & VARIOUS OTHER RUSKI COMMIE ARTICLES @ VARIOUS “DISQUS CHANNELS” like:

            __UKRAINE TODAY USA__
            (ABOVE NOW CHANGED TO: “UKRAINE TODAY” — to make it appear as the former & REAL “Ukraine Today” news station from Ukraine – now ceased operating, which provided REAL news as opposed to PLAGIARIZING from other news groups & “slipping in” Russo-mongolian COMMIE NEWS from RUSSIA TODAY & SPUTNIK (besides operating and infiltrating from dirty Russia, NOT UKRAINE).

            Other Russo-mongolian controlled “Disqus Channel” Communist Front sites are:

            __THE PRESIDENT TRUMP CHANNEL__ (of course! :)

            __IMPERIAL NEWS NETWORK__ (should be called Russo-mongolian IMPERIALIST News Network)

            __Conservative News Views__ (should be COMMIE News Views)

            etc.. BS “Disqus Channels”

            (FREE!! CHEAP!!! So the Russo-mongolian communists use this!!!)

            LYING RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “Vasyl P.” CLAIMS ON HIS DISQUS PAGE (when not hiding it the way most Ruski Trolls & Moles do:

            https://disqus.com/by/Vapetrenko/
            Right-wing freedom fighter; pro-democracy, anti-corruption, anti-feminazis, anti-fascist, Russian, Ukrainian, American
            ————————–

            Has claimed to be Ukrainian AND American — IS NEITHER!!

            SPOKE RUSKI AT ME — Thinking I would (or should?!?!) understand that NASTY, U-G-L-E-E DOG BARK & GROWL LANGUAGE.

            One gang member:
            “Larissa” (now “♥ L ♥”) — a “MODERATOR” MOLE/TROLL & the OTHER SCUM — will ALL tell you how “Larissa” —

            Was “shelled” by artillery in Ukraine and: “LOST HER ONLY CHILD IN DONBAS!!!!”

            A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!!! FEEL FOR ME!!!
            Nasty lying Ruski slüt! :)))

            Another RUSKI SKANK ‘HO — whined about being “I WAS RAPED” !!!!
            – as announced per her Disqus home page no less!!!! :))
            — she deleted it after I repeatedly posted & laughed at her DUM RUSKI LOW CLASS THRASH @SS for that:

            PITY POOR HER! A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!

            HA! Is the Ruski BS “most high cleverness & is the foolink you!!!” :))

            They try to play on the White Man’s sympathy! They do that BS!
            NEVER TRUST THOSE RUSSIAN PIGS — They just about all have AIDS! They are DIRTY! They might pass it on to you via a modem and their lying postings.

            .. besides their being stupid & sneaky POS, the “women” have …. “odor issues” because they don’t know how to keep themselves ( & ‘it”) clean. Very serious about that! — Don’t go into a Russian elevator in summer! Ruski female “habits”.

            — A VERY DIRTY & BRUTAL BUNCH — ALWAYS!!!

          • Andrew Chmile

            ATTENTION!!! — RUSKI ANIMAL **MOLE** INFILTRATOR & TRUMP SUPPORTER!!!

            “Vasyl P.” — Ruski *MOLE* — A LIAR !!
            — Another RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “TRUMP SUPPORTER” :)))

            HE IS A RUSKI **MOLE** & “moderator” of a RUSKI MOLE-TROLL SITE — with SPUTNIK & VARIOUS OTHER RUSKI COMMIE ARTICLES @ VARIOUS “DISQUS CHANNELS” like:

            __UKRAINE TODAY USA__
            (ABOVE NOW CHANGED TO: “UKRAINE TODAY” — to make it appear as the former & REAL “Ukraine Today” news station from Ukraine – now ceased operating, which provided REAL news as opposed to PLAGIARIZING from other news groups & “slipping in” Russo-mongolian COMMIE NEWS from RUSSIA TODAY & SPUTNIK (besides operating and infiltrating from dirty Russia, NOT UKRAINE).

            Other Russo-mongolian controlled “Disqus Channel” Communist Front sites are:

            __THE PRESIDENT TRUMP CHANNEL__ (of course! :)

            __IMPERIAL NEWS NETWORK__ (should be called Russo-mongolian IMPERIALIST News Network)

            __Conservative News Views__ (should be COMMIE News Views)

            etc.. BS “Disqus Channels”

            (FREE!! CHEAP!!! So the Russo-mongolian communists use this!!!)

            LYING RUSSO-MONGOLIAN “Vasyl P.” CLAIMS ON HIS DISQUS PAGE (when not hiding it the way most Ruski Trolls & Moles do:

            https://disqus.com/by/Vapetrenko/
            Right-wing freedom fighter; pro-democracy, anti-corruption, anti-feminazis, anti-fascist, Russian, Ukrainian, American
            ————————–

            Has claimed to be Ukrainian AND American — IS NEITHER!!

            SPOKE RUSKI AT ME — Thinking I would (or should?!?!) understand that NASTY, U-G-L-E-E DOG BARK & GROWL LANGUAGE.

            One gang member:
            “Larissa” (now “♥ L ♥”) — a “MODERATOR” MOLE/TROLL & the OTHER SCUM — will ALL tell you how “Larissa” —

            Was “shelled” by artillery in Ukraine and: “LOST HER ONLY CHILD IN DONBAS!!!!”

            A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!!! FEEL FOR ME!!!
            Nasty lying Ruski slüt! :)))

            Another RUSKI SKANK ‘HO — whined about being “I WAS RAPED” !!!!
            – as announced per her Disqus home page no less!!!! :))
            — she deleted it after I repeatedly posted & laughed at her DUM RUSKI LOW CLASS THRASH @SS for that:

            PITY POOR HER! A-A-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-E-E-E-eeeeeee!!!

            HA! Is the Ruski BS “most high cleverness & is the foolink you!!!” :))

            They try to play on the White Man’s sympathy! They do that BS!
            NEVER TRUST THOSE RUSSIAN PIGS — They just about all have AIDS! They are DIRTY! They might pass it on to you via a modem and their lying postings.

            .. besides their being stupid & sneaky POS, the “women” have …. “odor issues” because they don’t know how to keep themselves ( & ‘it”) clean. Very serious about that! — Don’t go into a Russian elevator in summer! Ruski female “habits”.

            — A VERY DIRTY & BRUTAL BUNCH — ALWAYS!!!

            ——————————–

            Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.
            MENACHEM BEGIN, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL

            — when he had Egyptian prisoners of war massacred, he was only following the Talmud.

          • Tin Can

            Here is am example of Russian Orthodox Jihad, http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/September/Ukraine-Protestants-Target-of-Russian-Orthodox-Jihad Do you have any good links that would reveal more of your statement that the Catholic Church, or members of the church, who acted as a conduit for the IRA?

          • Scradje

            Almost any active member of the security services during the 30 or so years of the ‘troubles’ would confirm. One priest went a bit further: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudy_bombing

          • Tin Can

            I read your link, thank you. That article was a sad and a shocking account. What is even more shocking , is that your statement suggests there were much more than one priest who went almost as far as Father Chesney.

          • Tin Can

            I would suggest a correction to your statement, “the Catholic Church” to, Just as the “Irish Catholic Church”operated as conduit…

    • veth

      http://112.international/ukraine-top-news/ukrainian-vilha-missile-system-successfully-tested-video-16357.html
      You can wait for the American goodies , or make better goodies yourself!

    • Tony

      Time to label them foreign agents and tax/regulate the hell out of them.

  • slavko

    By using the right of eminent domain, Ukraine can relinquish the ownership of the Russian Orthodox Church from the properties in Ukraine. Now in consideration that Russia has made the Jehovah Witness illegal in Russia, then by the same token Ukraine can make the Russian Orthodox Church illegal in Ukraine by virtue that the ROC is only an instrument of the Kremlin/Russian government and not truly a sanctioned church.

    • veth
    • Rascalndear

      absolutely!

    • Alex George

      I agree, but the Ukrainian government would have to clean out the Courts first. The Kremlin-leaning judges would throw up a lot of obstacles, particularly because ROC has a lot of money to spend.

      • slavko

        That will certainly prove to be a tough nut to crack. I suppose that Rada can start by making it illegal for a foreign entity such as the ROC to influence any political process within Ukraine. Also Rada can pass a law making it illegal for a foreign political entity to own Ukrainian property. Then the judges have to follow the law. The question of constitutionality is then answered by the the concept of national sovereignty over all things foreign such as ROC which is based in Moscow not Ukraine.

    • Geralt von RIva

      scientology in germany is not registered as church but as company. 😉 they have to pay company taxes

    • Geralt von RIva

      Bundeswehr soldiers under suspicion of terror

      How Franco A became a Syrian refugee

      Investigations against Lieutenant-General Franco A. show that during his asylum procedure happened massive mistakes. Strange detail: According to SPIEGEL information, he was questioned excellently by a comrade.

      The case of the Bundeswehr soldiers Franco A., who was arrested on Wednesday because of terror, is getting more and more confused. According to SPIEGEL information, the investigators have found serious mistakes in the processing of the fake asylum application in their researches, that internally is already referred to as a “complete failure of all control mechanisms”.

      The mistakes are so massive that the Ministry of the Interior on Friday already gave a “wrong decision” of the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees (Bamf) and announced that they wanted to “turn every stone around” and draw conclusions as quickly as possible from the mistakes.

      How, then, did Franco A. receive subsidiary protection as a Syrian refugee?

      Franco A. had first registered as a Syrian refugee in Bavaria at the end of 2015, allegedly he wanted to come to Germany on 29 December. Six months later, he submitted a regular application for asylum on May 12, another Six months later he was questioned on his own motives at a federal office in Nuremberg.

      According to investigators, the details of the approximately 90-minute survey prove that fundamental standards were ignored during the examination. Thus, Franco A. spoke broken Arabic, after a course with the Bundeswehr he had at least basic knowledge. Instead of questioning him for at least a few minutes in Arabic, the Moroccan interpreter changed to French.

      It is almost obscure, after all, that the officer A., ​​who was the Syrian David Benjamin, was questioned by a comrade. A soldier who had been lent out by the Bundeswehr to the Bamf was employed as an interrogator. He did not notice, however, that on the other side there was no Syrian, but a lieutenant from his troop.

      His legend decorated A. with many details. He was the son of a Christian fruit-growing family from the village of Tel al-Hassel, where he belonged to a French minority. He hardly spoke Arabic because he had only attended the High School Mission Laïque Française. In fact, there is such a school – albeit in Aleppo, some 20 kilometers away from the alleged place of residence.

      At the latest, the auditors were no longer looking closely. Thus, A. reported he was being persecuted by the “Islamic State” (IS) because of his Jewish-sounding name. Then he reported that the court of his parents had been attacked by the IS. Alleged injuries by shrapnel on the shoulder, however, were not shown. Regularly a doctor is added or at least a photo taken.

      In retrospect, the entire survey is negligent

      Strangely enough, a passage in the files, A. had feared the conviction as a soldier for the Syrian army. According to an insider, there is no indication in the survey, in any case, he was not consulted, possibly the claim was simply taken as fact. In the opinion of the connoisseur, the Bamf in such situations at least asks whether there has already been a corresponding draft letter.

      For investigators, the lapsus is just one of many. Thus, A. later reported that he had fled to Damascus because of the attack on a cousin. He described his conscience that he had left his family because his father had been killed by the IS. But he does not have to listen to any questions, either to the death of the father or to the alleged cousin and his fate.

      Basically, the entire survey is retrospectively negligent. In addition, even the Ministry of the Interior points out that the application for asylum was by no means in the so-called chaosphase of the refugee crisis, when the Bamf was overloaded. In the summer of 2016, the processes were again largely normal and thoroughly worked out.

      In the case of A. it was fast. Already on 16 December, a month after its fairy tale hour, the Office decided positively on the application for subsidiary protection. Since civil war prevails in Syria, “a threat to civilians is generally to be assumed”. If returning him, there would be “a considerable individual danger” for the alleged Syrian. His camouflage identity was now perfect.

      The motif remains puzzling

      For the Ministry of Interior, the case is unpleasant. Not only from hardliners in the area of ​​internal security will be suspected in the coming weeks that massive errors as in the case of the soldier in many other asylum procedures have occurred. No wonder the Ministry of Thomas de Maizière is quite defensive.

      The question remains, however, why the soldier existed as a refugee at all. Among the investigators there are two theses: In the worst case, he actually wanted to commit an attack, put a false track to the alleged refugee David Benjamin, and thus fuel the resentment against Syrians and all refugees in Germany.

      The second hypothesis is more harmless and yet crude: according to this, Franco would be able to demonstrate with his action how negligently the authorities are examining asylum seekers and may make this public later. He himself has not helped the investigators in the clarification so far – so far Franco A. alias David Benjamin is quiet.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt

  • veth

    Russians have no religion. As Kirill, FSB officer knows.

  • veth
  • Ihor Dawydiak

    The Moscow Patriarchate is not the only entity that can govern its properties on Ukrainian territory. Ukraine’s governing bodies (the executive, the legislatures and the courts) could also intervene and as such have the power to overturn any ruling from a foreign entity, namely Kirill and the Russian Orthodox Church. After all, Ukraine is not Russia and any property on Ukrainian soil can always (usually as a dire consequence to the illicit affairs of the owners) be expropriated by the State. Therefore, if Kirill wants to start a war on Ukrainian lands then it will be the ROC in Ukraine that will end up as the ultimate losers.

    • Tin Can

      Maybe that is what Kremlin Kirill wants to do, start a bigger war. This first video link is RuSSan propaganda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWJto5iHR4 This next video link is an unedited original from a few decades ago. This second video is complete, 2:25 minutes, and in the propaganda video they only show the first minute of that complete video. Tesult is you get two diffenrent meanings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_WbH0hyzSY

      • Ukrainian girl

        Can’t listen to that,- the Great-Russian Superiority throughout. Surely Nazis had some strong rival in the face of Russian pseudo-Orthodoxy.

    • Alex George

      If the Poroshenko has the will.

      There is also the problem of the Courts – most judges in Ukraine are pro-Kremlin.

      • Scradje

        That’s outrageous Alex. Are you sure? This has to be dealt with as a matter of extreme urgency. The kremlin murder gang must be laughing.

        • Alex George

          Well, that’s my assessment of them based on their actions in a number of cases, and I am by no means alone in thinking that. There is a fairly constant stream of stories in Ukrainian media about judges who mysteriously let off those charged with corruption or pro-Kremlin activities.

          The judges still hold office under pre-Maidan arrangements where their job was to uphold the State rather than apply the law.

  • Andrew Chmile

    “..or at least has something pertaining to his teachings?”

    RIGHT!
    SOMETHING — THAN COMES THE NEW THING!
    The NEW *supercedes* the OLD.

    His Universe — His rules. — You stupid inferior RUSKI sh*T!

    Don’ know much about ROMANS, do you Ruski SCUMBAG?
    Argue with HIM!

    Tell HIM you are THE Russian & speaka da bat Anglish!
    I am quite certain He will be THE most impressed! :))

    • Vasyl P.

      Nazzi thinking again, thanks for proving my point! Now go heil your Fuhrer Putler, Ukraine doesn’t want you and your disgusting beliefs.

      • Andrew Chmile

        NOT — yo’ SCUMBAG RUSKI PLACE, to say WTF Ukraine wants — now is it fookin’ STUPID PAID Ruski mole/troll for the MONHOL KHAN — PUTIN!!! :)))

        Stupid moskal faqqot monhol! :)))