Russian aggression against Ukraine not listed as a key problem for Council of Europe

Thorbjorn Jagland (Image: coe.int)

Thorbjorn Jagland (Image: coe.int) 

2017/01/25 - 13:23 • Political News

Council of Europe Secretary General Thorbjorn Jagland in his speech to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) did not mention the Russian aggression against Ukraine among the list of problems in the territory of ​​the Council of Europe, the Evropeyska Pravda correspondent reports from Strasbourg, France.

Secretary Jagland gave parliamentarians a traditional address that starts each parliamentary session, which lists key issues for their agenda.

Among such problems, he named propaganda and fake news, including their influence on elections; strengthening of populists in Europe; the threat posed by populists; the migration crisis; the crisis in Turkey; and the problem of the spread of terrorism.

In his speech, which lasted more than half an hour, he did not mention the aggression against Ukraine nor the annexation of Crimea, and did not once use the word “Russia.”

Secretary Jagland’s address was followed by questions from parliamentarians.


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Translated by: A. N.
Source: Ukrayinska Pravda

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  • Alex George

    Putin seems to be trying different things, adopting a lower profile.

    A few months ago he took responsibility for occupied Donbas away from Surkov and gave it to Kovak. There are reports Russians are actually trying to make life easier for the inhabitants of the DNR and LNR – not easy when there is virtually no economy except what is run by Ukrainian oligarchs.

    • туфтуф

      You think you lost an ally by losing Surkov? He s the most devious person l know.

      • Alex George

        LOL And now you claim to know Surkov, just as you claim to know everyone whose name comes up. ;o)

        Sorry to break it to you, but Surkov is just Putin’s poodle. And now Vladimir Vladimirovich has put him into a different kennel.

        • туфтуф

          No l dnt know him personally. I do know ppl who do.

  • Rafael Hernandez

    Good. The Europeans are beggining to see the true story of this conflict

    • Victor Victory

      Youre here now? Go to RT

      • Rafael Hernandez

        Afraid to hear the truth? That is a common thing for khokhols

        • Victor Victory

          What you call “truth” is 100% pure BS to the rest of the world, but in RuSSia, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria they will believe anything, those are third world shetholes controlled by fascist propaganda speaking dictators.

          • туфтуф

            Trump has just officially handed over Syria to Russia. Europe is exposed to security risks cus the terrorists feel betrayed.

          • Alex George

            Sure he has. Now you claim to know Trump also? Well that makes a long list.

          • туфтуф

            A long and merry one. Lol

        • Alex George

          Of course we aren’t afraid to hear the truth – we are the ones who tell it.

          • туфтуф

            If US betrays ukroland, l hope they wont resort to terrorists activities like their mussie brethren. On the other hand, ukros cannot travel freely through Western Europe, while mussies can. It lowers the risk of possible terrorist acts.

          • Alex George

            LMAO, oh dear the poor desperate Russian troll, trying desperately to think of something negative to say. Keep trying.

          • туфтуф

            I didnt say Trump intends to betray ukroland although l think he will. I said if.

          • Alex George

            Of course, even though (a) there is nothing in it for him, and (b) he doesn’t have the power to do it anyway. But by all means keep fantasizing!

          • туфтуф

            I support u here. I thnk that ukros are panicking groundlessly. There ll be plenty of war and millions dead. Dnt worry. The genocide of the Slavs is getting fully fledged. Why shld Trump stop it? Maggie said back in the 80’s that the entire Soviet Union should have no more than 15 million inhabitants. Now we can argue that Maggie s dead, but her ideas live on. And ukroland has well over 15 mil alone. The numbers need adjustment, obviously.

        • туфтуф

          Nothing unusual. Britain and France threw Poland to the dogs (figuratively) in WWII. Why would ukroland fair any better?

          • Alex George

            LOL Keep trying my desperate little friend!

            You know the real answer, but are living in denial – even if every country abandoned Ukraine right now, Russia still couldn’t conquer it. Russia’s military is not up to the task.

      • туфтуф

        True. The truth is relative. It s like an onion with an infinite number of layers. I have just informed SBU that Nadia is still rotting in Russian prison and her role is being played by Bezrukov, an FSB agent. Got his pic.

    • Brent

      That Russia illegally invaded Ukraine? What’s to dispute, “walnut brain”? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/22ce1a432001cb27ec9e8ca52953e0e6aae06829bfbc032433d5afe81fbfc2b6.jpg

      • Rafael Hernandez

        Russia has been stationed in Crimea for 25 years, and with crimeans blessing, as we saw with the referedum they wanted to seperste from Ukraine. As for Donbass, you should look to the likes like Givi who is a local Ukrainian and despises the bandera regime in Kiev

        • Alex George

          There was no referendum, just an FSB propaganda exercise, backed up by 20,000 rifles pointed at the population. Putin will never allow a free vote in Crimea because he knows that the ethnic Russians there do not want to be ruled by the Kremlin.

          This was driven home to him in eastern Ukraine where it was the Russian-speaking Ukrainians who led the opposition to Putin’s fascist goons when they tried to start insurrection there.

          And when Putin in desperation sent in the Russian army, it was mostly Russian-speaking Ukrainians who put their lives on the line to stop him. Hence why Putin only holds a small sliver of eastern Ukraine – that’s all you can get when the people oppose you, and your “great” Russian soldiers lack essential qualities, like discipline and courage.

          • туфтуф

            Rifles were there, but my Crimean friends say they were protecting the majority Russian population from the trains of friendship which turned around and fled having found out that Spetsnaz GRU was on the streets of Crimea. The ultras knew GRU is a serious outfit.

          • Alex George

            Oh please, you have no Crimean friends. You claim to know everyone, including half of Putin’s inner circle! ;o)

            And yes, the Spetznaz GRU – well known for its members crying like girls when captured by Ukrainians.

          • туфтуф

            But l told you lcan give u names. On both sides. I gave u 1 name so far. You stupidly ignored it. I can even let you talk to them directly.

          • Alex George

            You already have given heaps of names – and it is obvious that you don’t know any of them. The one time you tried to produce some special knowledge, it was something that had been all over the media for days. And many other developments that are well known to those who follow Russian and Ukrainian media, you know nothing about.

          • туфтуф

            I disregard media reports often coz they have very little value. I prefer inside info.

          • Alex George

            You don’t have any inside info.

          • Andrew

            feeding scumbag Ruski trolls? :)

          • туфтуф

            Ok.

      • туфтуф

        It depends from which angle you look. If you look from the other side, the “separatists” want to liberate Kiev from a putsch gvt and Trump wants elections in ukroland to be repeated, which means that he is not certain if the maidan elections were conducted in accordance with democratic principles. Here Trump’s and separatists’ views converge. And that is a dangerous sign.

        • Alex George

          Ha ha you wish. Trump has shown no interest in Ukrainian elections one way or another.

          The separatists know perfectly well that there was no “putsch”. The Ukrainian people revolted against a President who went far beyond what the law allows, and he fled like a coward. Putin tried ot reinstate him by force, and found to his surprise and chagrin that it was the ethnic Russians of eastern Urkraine who wanted nothing to do with the Kremlin, .

          Putin is incredibly stupid – almost singlehandedly he turned Ukraine against Russia. One of Russia’s most incompetent rulers ever.

          • туфтуф

            If Trump has no interest, P will end the war in 3 days. If he wishes. Seems he doesnt.

          • Alex George

            Putin can prosecute the war as long as he likes. He won’t win, and he will only weaken Russia the longer it goes. Whatever

          • туфтуф

            Yet, for some reason KGB is doing exactly that. But we have to evolve mentally to be able to grasp a security agency’s logic. They do not think like ordinary ppl.

          • Murf

            Sure he can.
            That is why it took him a year to beat some sad sack rebels in Syria.
            That is why he backed down in March 2014 when the Ukraine military was only 5% combat ready. Guess what? Two years of war have made them very combat ready.
            History doesn’t jibe with your bragging.

    • Alex George

      Which Europeans? ;o)

      Don’t worry – there have always been Europeans willing to accept Putin’s money. And there will be more. But they won’t change the mind of the vast majority of Europeans.

      Putin is spending Russians’ money on a useless struggle.

      • туфтуф

        What can we do when P has so much money and hackers who elect a US pressie? Freeze P’s assets and ban Russians from learning computer science? Lol

        • Alex George

          LOL “elect a US president”

          You so desperately wish, so does Putin.

          He tried, but his incompetent FSB were not up to the task.

          • туфтуф

            Oh sorry i tot u believed in the Russian hackers story. Lots of ppl here believe in fairy tales. I am sorry l got u confused with someone else.

          • Alex George

            Everyone believes in Russian hackers. In the case of the US presidential election, I have no doubt they tried to influence it, but it is obvious they failed.

            You have claimed several times now that Trump is only in the White House because of Putin. Just as you claim to know many influential people and have vast amounts of secret knowledge.

            You are just a pathetic old man trying to big note himself.

          • туфтуф

            Sure. They wanted to elect hitlery. And failed. Lolz

          • Alex George

            Of course they didn’t want Hilary in, but how doe her losing prove your assertion that Putin and his hackers were responsible for electing Trump?

          • туфтуф

            Trump appointed his children to look into it. He does not believe CIA. He thinks his children are more competent than the Firm. Strange man. Some say CIA competently blew up the twin towers. If so, why not be regarded as competent reg. Russian hackers?

          • Alex George

            Sorry, but I don;t understand – how does any of that prove (or even support) your assertion that Putin and his hackers were responsible for electing Trump?

          • туфтуф

            It doesnt prove. I assume CIA would not lie. Assumption which may be worthless just like a cnn report from ukraine, shot in holliwood.

  • RedSquareMaidan

    A half hour speech that didn’t even mention the Russia?
    So, terrorism, occupation, broken treaties, hacking, Fake News, human rights, thousands dead, and MH17 are not related to Russia?
    I thought Nevelle Chamberlin was dead

    • туфтуф

      Sir Neville is immortal, as we can see. With Bumsey’s demise his policies died too. Europe feels it instinctively.

      • Alex George

        What on earth are you babbling about now?

  • Dirk Smith

    Moscow bombing=Reichstag Fire 1933. Chechnya, Georgia, Ukraine=Austria, Rhineland, Poland 1930’s. Minsk=Munich 1938. Crimea=Czechoslovakia 1938. Etc, Etc……. WAKE UP.

  • туфтуф

    How can it be a top priority? England and France, who were gurantors of Poland’s territorial integrity threw it to the Germans in WWII. Why should Ukraine fair any better? (From the point of view of its “allies”.)

    • Alex George

      Except they didn’t, did they? Seriously now, old man. Stalin entered into a pact with Hitler to divide up Europe between them. Stalin helped Hitler to prepare his armies, and then they both attacked Poland from each side.

      Of course you devoutly hope that pigs will fly. But the reality is that Western countreis have no interest in pandering to Putin. After all, what has he got to offer?

      • туфтуф

        No
        Hitler helped Stalin. The idea was to have them destroy each other. Didnt work. Now Poland will be sacrificed along the same lines. If it manages to “unfreeze” the tanks stuck in the snow. Lolz

        • Alex George

          Stalin helped Hitler. He gave great assistance to preparing the Wehrmacht for war. All part of his deal with Hitler to divide Europe between them – which they then did.

          Just two fascists working together, and then finding they are each as “trustworthy” as the other.

          • туфтуф

            Nonsense. Western agitprop.

        • Murf

          Once again you show your ignorance.
          Poland has stood shoulder to shoulder in every major US operation since 91. Even when other Allies actively worked against us. That is not something the U.S. Military takes lightly.
          Also Poland has learned that trade and weapons purchases means influence.
          They are in the process of buying billions of dollars worth of JASSAM-ER missiles. Patriot batteries. Blackhawks Helios. And possibly attack Helios.
          Currently the U.S. Is positioning a Armored Brigade Combat Team, a Cavalry squadron. A Attack helio battalion with 40 Ah-64s.
          Does any of this sound like the US is about to sell them out?

          • туфтуф

            Breaking news: Defence minister of RF says today that Russia is ready to repell “the collective West’s aggression coming from Ukrainian territory”. Perhaps the time has come for all to see what a real Russian aggression looks like. God forbid. My opinion: fear mongering or a pretext for a full scale war. Something along the lines of OMG Poland attacked us by our mate Adolf.

          • Murf

            What’s news about a Russia shooting his mouth off at how great they are?
            Here is some breaking news; US oil production has in one month grown to fill the production gap caused by OPEC and Russian out put cuts.
            That didn’t take long.
            The price of Brent crude fell 7 cents.
            Thanks to Putin for giving up his market share to the U.S.
            We will take good care of it for him.

          • туфтуф

            Ukraine can buy oil and gas from the US. The only snag is that it will be much more expensive than buying it from the aggressor. “Friends” tend to charge more and ukros will have to pay. We all know ukros have no money but Germany does. Someone needs to persuade Germany to foot the bill. The rada voted to increase water rates by 37%. I think a genocide of ukrainian ppl is getting fully fledged.

          • Murf

            So raising costs constitutes a genocide?
            Over state things much?
            Better to buy it from an ally who has stood by you than a so called “Brother” who stabbed you in the back.

          • туфтуф

            Of course it does. Its called white death.

          • Murf

            Then Russia was guilty of trying to commit genocide when the attempted to blackmail Ukraine into paying 480 BCM for gas in the summer of 2014.
            God you walked right into that.

          • туфтуф

            True. On the other hand, communism has gone and stealing goods is considered a crime.

          • Murf

            So is price gouging.
            And trying creat a monopoly.
            And seizing territory.
            I am glad you at least understand what a criminal enterprise the Putin regime is.

          • туфтуф

            Now l do. What wld l do had l not encountered u here….lolz

          • Alex George

            Now come on Murf – EVERYBODY knows that a rise in water rates constitutes genocide!

            This guy is getting funnier by the minute!

          • Murf

            I wonder what he would call raising the price of vodka in Russia?
            An Extinction Level Event?
            Ok, To the Russian, he would not be far off the mark.

          • туфтуф

            I jnow. Thats why it will stand again. But the US wont. They will take the first flight home when the going gets tough, thus sacrificing Poland like the Brits and French did in WWII. US has 2 choices: sacrificing Poland and taking part in a new Yalta conference, or sacrificing to be perceived by Rusdia as enemy. I hope u understand the consequences of the latter choice.

          • Alex George

            “But the US wont. They will take the first flight home when the going gets tough, thus sacrificing Poland like the Brits and French did in WWII.”

            Interesting. Oh well, perhaps you are right. Not being from the US, I wouldn’t know.

          • туфтуф

            Remember Somalia? Nam? Iran? Serbia? Nato is first and foremost a trade organisation, protecting interests of the global oligarchy. Only special forces are of any use, like navy seals in US, or Sas in Britain. The rest are cr*p.

          • Murf

            Since WWII when was the US NOT Russia’s enemy/
            Big deal.
            You must be mistaking the US for where ever it is you come from.
            We didn’t pack up and run from the USSR during the cold war. and they were FAR scarier than Putin.
            We didn’t pack it in against the Chinese even after they handed us the worst military defeat we ever suffered. We cost them over a million troops during that war and we are still in South Korea.
            The Arabs though we would sell out Israel during the Yom Kippor War when they declared an oil embargo.
            Saddam though the same thing twice. How did that work out for him?
            The Somalli war lord Farra Adide who orchestrated the “Blackhawk Down” Battle of Mogidishu was assassinated.
            Bin Laddin thought he was safe under the protection of the Taliban.
            Now he is crab Sh*t that is feeding plankton. His body returned to the Great Circle of Life. Courtesy of SEAL Team Six.
            Now we have ISIS being ground down by our coalition and reduced to begging children online to blow themselves up.
            Then there is Putin. Can’t even pave the roads that kill 30k Russians a year, praying that Trump will end the Sanctions that he used to sneer at.
            Well he ain’t sneering anymore is he?
            To bad Trump said that now is not the time to end them.
            To bad, so sad Vlad.

            Oh did I forget to mention tha tthe US is also building an Aegis Ashore Anti Ballistic Missile launcher in Poland?
            How silly of me!

            Selling out allies may be what YOUR people do, but not mine

          • туфтуф

            I never said they were enemies. Russia is perceivedbas toobassertive and they are desperatebto reign it in. Now with the new conflict Russia is fostering in Syria, itsbabout to become a world player and it creates panick. Thats why Trump wants an alliance. Ukroland is dead.

          • Murf

            Trump has never even once mentioned alliance.
            And even if he did he is the only one. Congress would put a halt to it seconds.
            They are talking about increasing sanctions.
            The U.S. Military hates the Russians.
            64 % of the American people have a negative of Russia.
            Nobody in this wants anything to do with Russia.

          • туфтуф

            Congerss must enshrine ukro help in a law. Otherwise ukroland can be ducked by an executive order.

          • туфтуф

            Sacrificing London and NY it shld read.

    • Dirk Smith

      Allies? You’re referring to Nazi Germany; Moscow”s ally. Sums it all up. Dumb Nazi. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2b89a12035d5cad3794f9f25b0eef87088d2a7dcf46a06976e1b4d6e9d93756.jpg

  • onlyfactsplease

    Neville Chamberlain would be proud of today’s Europe. It is deaf, blind, dumb and weak.