Putin’s remarks about Russian prostitutes say more about him than about Trump, Orlova says

Vladimir Putin at a staged photo shoot with models posing as brides, which was later presented to Russian and foreign media as Putin's random encounter with a group of real brides who charmed him to take some "selfies" while encircled by bodyguards. Red Square in Moscow, September 2016 (Image: TASS)

Vladimir Putin at a staged photo shoot with models posing as brides, which was later presented to Russian and foreign media as Putin's random encounter with a group of real brides who charmed him to take some "selfies" while encircled by bodyguards. Red Square in Moscow, September 2016 (Image: TASS) 

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Many in the US have seen Vladimir Putin’s talk about media reports concerning Donald Trump and Russian prostitutes as yet another case in which the Kremlin leader can’t keep himself from saying and doing things designed to keep that issue alive, even while denying that it is true.

But more than one Russian commentator has pointed to the obvious: Putin’s comments about Russian prostitutes say far more about the way Putin views the world and the nature of the regime he heads than they do about Trump or anyone else. Among the best of those making that argument is Moscow journalist Karina Orlova.

Karina Orlova

Karina Orlova

In a comment reposted on the Ekho Moskvy portal, she argues that a careful reading of what Putin said raises some serious questions about Putin’s view of the world and even more his preferred modus operandi and casts doubt not only on his claims about other things but about his adequacy as a ruler.

Putin asked “Does anyone think that our special services chase after every American billionaire?” But to say that, Orlova points out, is to raise some other questions: “Is it only every third or every fifth or are there certain criteria for selection?” Perhaps, Putin’s special services do that only for those worth more than $20 billion or who are older than 30?

“Of course,” she says, “the FSB tracks every more-or-less important foreigner who comes to Russia,” just as it tracks Russians. “That is,” she notes, it goes after everyone who is in Russia (and not only there).” The Russian effort in this regard is different in degree and hence in kind than the intelligence operations other governments run against foreign leaders.

Second, Putin said that he had difficulty imagining that Trump would “sleep with prostitutes because ‘this is an adult who for long years has been involved in the organization of beauty contests and has met with the most beautiful women of the world.”

What is striking about that remark, Orlova says, is that Putin didn’t see the fact that Trump is married as being a limiting factor even though both leaders like to talk about “family values.” Instead, it was only a question of opportunity and perhaps of price – a reflection of the pattern in Russian today when those at the top get divorces and then take lovers.

Third, and following on the same remark, Putin clearly does imagine that “if you are a billionaire, you can get any woman, especially if she is a participant in a beauty contest, and especially if you are the billionaire who is the organizer of that competition.” In this way, Putin showed that he shares Trump’s view given the latter’s earlier comments about how available women are to anyone who is “a star.”

And fourth, Putin declared that he had difficult imagining that Trump “ran to the hotel to get involved with our girls of low social responsibility.” As Orlova says, that remark suggests just how the Kremlin dictator views all those “who poorly fulfill their social obligations.” But then Putin added that of course, Russia’s prostitutes “are the best in the world.”

“Only one question remains,” Orlova says. “Why does Vladimir Putin head the rating of the most influential people according to Forbes and his Philippine colleague Rodrigo Duterte isn’t yet on it?” Clearly, their vision of what people are like and what the powerful can do to them in order to remain in power are all too similar.

In addition to commentaries like hers, the Russian Internet in the wake of Putin’s latest comments has been filled with stories detailing how the FSB now and the KGB earlier gather compromising information on visiting foreigners and ordinary Russians, including their use of a special system of sound and video recording.

Little of this will be new to those with experience in Russia or the Soviet Union, but some articles, especially one entitled “The FSB Film Studio. How the Special Services Take Compromising Videos in Hotels” do provide confirmation–if confirmation is needed–of just how vast and, for the Kremlin, vital that system remains.


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  1. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

    What would Putie the Pedo know about female prostitutes? LOL…..

    1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

      The dwarf knows NOTHING at all about female prostitutes, Dwarfstanian or not, since his preference is little boys up to 8 years old.

      1. Avatar Dirk Smith says:

        Exactly. That’s why he had Litvinenko murdered and why the propaganda goes overboard on his ‘gymnast girlfriend.’ What happens in Sochi; stays in Sochi. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2a5e4a0c09b5792b77e2a5823d3dd9408755fb1b4d97bdd6d4e9f6a845ed37d.jpg

        1. Avatar Brent says:

          I still shudder ever time I see this photo!!! Could you imagine any Western leader trying to kiss a little boy’s stomach? Even teflon Drumpf couldn’t get away with that!!!

          1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

            A vid of this incident on Youtube shows the dwarf dashing off inside one of the Kremlin buildings immediately afterwards, as if he suddenly realised what he had done in public.

          2. Avatar туфтуф says:

            No knowledge of Russian culture. Even in Serbia it is the utmost sign of love and respect for the child. While US soldiers exercise zoophilia, we re measuring Russian culture with zoophylic values.

          3. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Nothing to do with pedophilia. Its a Slav thing.

          4. Avatar Brent says:

            Sh*t for brains, you’re supposedly a Burmese living in London. I’m a Slav. I’ve never heard of this supposed “cultural tradition” of kissing a little boy on the tummy!!!

            What’s next, you going to try to convince everyone https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e517c4c1d23d75565b532f217639f5e77f2b0c06aaf922d299661238c8f3c3e1.jpg borscht is made with cauliflower???

          5. Avatar туфтуф says:

            My wife is Russian. Pure bloodied. Hence my excellent comand of the lingo, apart from the fact that l studied in Moscow.

          6. Avatar туфтуф says:

            How the duck did u upload the pic? I have an impressive collection of the pic from the front.

          7. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            You’re confusing US troops with Musloids and yourself.

          8. Avatar Brent says:

            Sure “TOTO”, spin it any way you want, click your heels and maybe you’ll end up back in Kansas….

            By the way, the “Russian culture” most of the World has become familiar with includes lying, thieving, kidnapping and murder https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/485c1ffe9e4d5913990b033311b91250c5102d1e2ed3946818b67c2ed2624f9b.jpg ….but what would a supposed “Burmese living in London” like you know about Russia culture anyway? Let me guess, you’re another one of the stooges married to an ex-Russian stripper who likes awake every night wondering if this is the night she smothers you with a pillow….

        2. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Litvinenko was a traitor to all: fsb, Chechen radicals, Berezovski, useless to mi6, constantly begging for money and even blackmailing important ppl. All of them had a reason to waste him.

          1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            Anyone that takes the path of truth as Litvinenko did is a hero. Putin is the traitor, a quisling to his core.

          2. Avatar туфтуф says:

            Lets assume u r right and P wants to betray Russia. But so did Litvinenko. And when he was not needed, he was disposed of. Secret agents tragic death is natural due to the nature of their job.

          3. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            It’s not a matter of “if” Putin wants to betray Russia, Putin already has betrayed Russia. people like you need to deal with it.

            Litvinenko’s sympathies were with the Russian people. Putin just wants to use the Russian people for his own ends. That’s why Putin sent an agent over with Polonium to kill him. Putin was doing two things by doing it in the manner he did. First he was sending a message to the world what he was willing to do. Second, he was sending a message to exiles that no one was out of his reach.

            His death was intentional, and Putin’s agent pulled the trigger, so to speak. The only traitor in the story is Putin. We can add another….you because you support Putin.

          4. Avatar туфтуф says:

            L. needed to die. That is how agents die. My wife’s father in law was no traitor but got “heart attacked”.

          5. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            Your wife’s father-in-law is your father. L. was a hero murdered on Putin’s order. The only man who needs to die is Putin and his supporters. People like yourself. Putin has betrayed his country for his own benefit.

          6. Avatar туфтуф says:

            We dnt know for sure. Agents’ deaths are seldom properly investigated cus the police hasnt got enough security clearance. They just parrot in front of the cameras what they ve been told to say often by the murderers themselves.

          7. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            We know what killed Litvinenko, who did it, and why.

          8. Avatar туфтуф says:

            I agree with the hero thing. All lm sayig is he died in the line of duty.

          9. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            Putin had him killed because the man told the truth, and Putin couldn’t afford the truth to get out. And, you keep changing your tune. You can’t make up your mind.

          10. Avatar Brent says:

            Two things about your latest idiotic comment

            1) you just proved the Russian culture of murder is okay in the eyes of the Kremlin and its stooges like you
            2) Why was Litvinenko a traitor when he was the corruption of Putin and reported on it?

          11. Avatar туфтуф says:

            I didnt prove. I stated. But all intel agencies do the same cr*p.

          12. Avatar туфтуф says:

            No. I meant secret agents have a tendency to die from secret causes.

          13. Avatar Brent says:

            I hope you’re a “state secret” then…..

      2. Avatar veth says:

        The Kremlin will build a personal health care center for Putler and top Ministers with all services for 30 million dollars. Remind: Health care budget is down 30% in Russia. Not every Dwarfstanian is equal.

        1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

          It was always thus in the Soviet Union as well. It’s par for the course for a KGB thug to hold he and his cronies above the vast peasantry.

        2. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

          “Animal Farm” isn’t dead in Dwarfstan.

  2. Avatar Brent says:

    I’ve never met one, but I would still respect a Russian prositute more than the demented dwarf of the Kremlin. At least you know more of the truth with the prostitute…..and you’re giving your money to her willingly….

    1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

      …….. and getting something in exchange, though with Dwarfstan’s AIDS and VD epidemic, it would be wise to avoid Dwarfstanian prostitutes at all costs if you value yur health and ultimately your life.

    2. Avatar туфтуф says:

      My advice: Western culture of fear should be better applied to Surkov. Cold, calculated, success oriented, not caring in the slightest how many ppl die in order that he attains his aim. P is a good man.

      1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

        “P is a good man.”
        And you expect us to believe the lie you aren’t a Putin supporter.

        1. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Sure l do.

          1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            The you are an idiot who expects everyone else to be as big an idiot as you. No one here believes your lie. Certainly not since you have supported Putin at every turn and spew his propaganda regularly as if it were the truth.

            No one believes a liar.

          2. Avatar туфтуф says:

            No. Me not suporter

        2. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

          The “P” tuftuf considers a good man is Pence.

        3. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Just stating facts.

          1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            You haven’t stated any facts yet. Given your post history, you are, without doubt, a Putin supporter.

      2. Avatar Brent says:

        Your beloved “P” is not even a man. He’s a cowardly rat faced demented dwarf.

        Mindless sheeple like you that worship corrupt murdering tyrants like him are nothing more than idiots.

        1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

          Respectfully submit: a demented PEDOPHILE dwarf.

        2. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Me no love P. Me love projection of power and despise of cangaroo courts.

  3. Avatar Victor Victory says:

    Putin will invite Trump over to his mansion to have a GrabThemByThePussy party, those filthy Russians whores will hopefully give herpesvirus to them both.

    1. Avatar туфтуф says:

      Why so much against US president? The fate of ukroland (which is sealed) depends on the Dwarf and Trumpf at a lesser degree. He likes sex, so let him have it.

      1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

        The only fate that is sealed is that of Putinist Russia. Ukraine is rising. Russia is declining.

        1. Avatar туфтуф says:

          Rising? Are u wearing a frying pan when you sleep? Lol

          1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            Yes, rising. Their economy is growing, and exports are increasing. In Russia, people are being progressively impoverished and the State is nearly broke.

            The frying pan is on your head.

        2. Avatar туфтуф says:

          From Crimea and the 2 permanent bases in Syria, Russia controls the Med. A bird cannot fly without Russia say so.

          1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

            You can dream that if you like. Russia has a far smaller presence in the Med than does the US and NATO allies. The overwhelming majority of stuff that happens in the Med happens without Putin’s say so.

      2. Avatar Brent says:

        For once I agree with something you said. Invite Drumpf over to Putin’s billion dollar Black Sea Mansion, and give him all of the diseases filthy Russian prostitutes his 70 year old heart can handle…..The Republicans “real man in power” was sworn in today. No. Not Drumpf, but Mike Pence. Your Russki trolls are really going to miss Obama once a real Republican takes power in Washington….

        1. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

          The dwarf will eventually realise that he would have been better off with Hillary as President and should have interfered in the election in her favour……

        2. Avatar туфтуф says:

          But why Dumpf bee bad?

    2. Avatar Dagwood Bumstead says:

      Pedo Putolini won’t participate. He will attend a ScrewLittleBoys party.

  4. Avatar туфтуф says:

    No big deal. If Trumpf had anything to do with hanky panky, it was done long before he thought he was one day become pressie. And he s a man, for goodness sake. Why such a palava over a sex life of a healthy man?

    1. Avatar Quartermaster says:

      It’s already known that the “party” was a hoax perpetrated by the denizens of 4Chan.

    2. Avatar Brent says:

      Drumpf is the oldest person to take the Oath of Office for U.S. President…..tic, tic, tic……he won’t even last a year….

      1. Avatar туфтуф says:

        Why dnt u like him? My yankie friends are overjoyed….???

      2. Avatar туфтуф says:

        I hear wife keepshim fit…???