Crimea’s water troubles

The Swallow's Nest near Yalta Palace in Crimea

The Swallow's Nest near Yalta Palace in Crimea  

Crimea

Article by: Lily Hyde

The Kalinina farm collective near Pervomaisk, northern Crimea, was busy with seasonal workers loading sacks of cabbages, or gathering up carrots in the big muddy fields. It looks like a successful harvest, but it’s a result of almost three years hard struggle to adapt to new conditions after vital water supplies from the Ukraine mainland stopped in 2014, following Russia’s annexation of Crimea.

“Now we have to lay out these maggots,” said farmer Vladimir Vasilievich, kicking a huge roll of plastic piping which snakes all over his carrot fields, providing a drip irrigation system which has to be replaced every two seasons.

Pervomaisk Administration Head of Agriculture Vladimir Mironyuk indicated an adjacent field green with a crop of winter grain. Farmers have switched to these less profitable crops, because they can use natural winter moisture. “But if we had Dnipro water,” he said resignedly, “the crop yield would be twice as high.”

With an average annual rainfall of just 330-350mm, and no surface water sources, Pervomaisk district is entirely dependent on boreholes for drinking water and, until 2014, on irrigation for agriculture with water from the Dnipro river flowing through Ukraine and supplied via the Northern Crimean Canal. In spring 2014, 15,000 hectares were ready or planted for cultivation, providing work and income for the vast majority of inhabitants of this flat, inhospitable region.

In late April Ukraine abruptly dammed Dnipro water after Russia annexed the peninsula. “It was a really big shock,” said Mironyuk. “There were huge losses.”

The Russian government covered some of those losses, he said, so that the district’s agricultural sector was not completely devastated. But more than two years on, there is no sign of a solution to restore or replace the water supply, and it’s clear that lack of water is a slow-motion disaster.

Water scarcity  

Now the only water source for farming is the same limited groundwater which provides the region’s entire drinking water supply (and which is actually gastronomically, if not technically undrinkable, because of its saltiness). The amount that can be used for farming is strictly controlled by ecologists from the Crimean Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources, who will assess the limits every three years.

“It’s all within a rational framework so as not to cause an ecological catastrophe, because what will we drink in Pervomaisk region tomorrow if we use all the groundwater for tomatoes?” said Mironyuk.

No one in Pervomaisk was keen to speculate on the record about the effect agricultural use may have on overall groundwater levels. “If they give us permission to drill boreholes then that means it’s alright,” said Vladimir Voytyuk, responsible for production and cultivation in Pervomaisk administration. “They’re the ones responsible for the ecology of the region.”

The Ministry of Ecology and Natural Resources had not responded to requests for interview by the time of going to press.

So far nine new 100 metre boreholes for crop and livestock farming have been drilled in Pervomaisk district. One is at the Kalinina farm. It is an expensive and time-consuming process: the current cost for getting all permissions and hiring a government firm to drill is around 1,000,300 roubles (over 15,000 US dollars) according to Mironyuk – and that does not include the further outlay on equipment to transport water to crops, and paying for the water itself. The Russian or Crimean government offers no subsidies or compensation.

“Now all the costs for water – from drilling and permissions to the electricity needed to bring it to the fields – lies on the shoulders of farmers,” said Mironyuk. “Only one in ten can afford the expense.”

The additional cost is reflected in prices for Crimean vegetables, making them less competitive on the Crimean and Russian markets – the only possible outlet since annexation.

“The small farmers have really suffered, and lots have dropped out and left,” said Mironyuk. “They’ve gone to work in Moscow, Saint Petersburg, Tyumen, Archangelsk – anywhere but here.”

No place to trade

On a bitterly cold November day, there were more sellers than buyers at the small local market in nearby Alexeyevka. Three traders there said they had made their living from farming before 2014. Now they were selling Turkish and Polish clothing brought from Russia, and potatoes from Belarus for 20 roubles a kilo – more than twice the price as in neighbouring Kherson region in Ukraine.

“It’s impossible to grow anything. Lots of friends have moved to Kherson because it is not possible to work here,” said Lenur Ismailov, who used grow potatoes to sell through the winter on 15 rented hectares. “And the prices of vegetables – we might as well be watering them with mineral water.”

Now he and his wife sell clothes to make a living; at first they brought them from Odesa but since Ukraine imposed a trade blockade they bring them from Russia in tiresome and costly journeys over the Kerch straits. In what was clearly the last straw, Ismailov’s son was called up to the Russian army in November. “There’s nothing good here now. It’s really hard – write that down: really hard,” he said. “I’ve just had enough.”

Two men selling Belarusian potatoes declined to give their surnames or name the agribusiness where they used to work, which imported European seed and technology and sold frozen fruit and vegetables to Kyiv. “It was Ukrainian so I won’t name it,” said Rustem. Now the company has re-registered under Russia, switched to less labour- and water-intensive crops, and laid off most of its workers.

“That’s how they exist now – they don’t like it, but of course they don’t say so,” said Rustem, who also used to grow potatoes on his own seven hectares to sell. “And we’re like wolves, scavenging for work.”

Decline of farming

Ruins of collective farm buildings lie everywhere in this region’s flat landscape, reminders of a previous farming disaster. The huge lorries Vladimir Mironyuk remembers from his childhood, lining up to take tons of apples from local orchards to Belarus, are long gone. Under Mikhail Gorbachev’s 1980s anti-alcohol campaign vineyards and orchards were ploughed up as wine and cider plants closed, or else were abandoned in the dreadful years of the 1990s when collective farm workers were paid in grain and vegetables and stealing a cow or pig was often the only way to survive.

Life gradually improved after the collective farms were broken up and workers received land plots which they could rent out for farming to enterprises like the Kalinina farming collective, established in 2000. The orchards never came back, but rice and vegetable fields took their place. Post-Soviet farmers in Crimea had no need to economise on water; Dnipro water was unlimited in practice, and cheap for both big farms and individuals cultivating a few hectares.

Now rice farming has been abandoned and vegetable crops much reduced. One trickle-down from today’s water shortages is that some landplot owners are no longer being paid by lease-holders unable to farm the land, or are being paid in the winter grain crops farmers are now planting because they are not water-intensive. Another is that land rental agreements, usually of ten years duration, must be re-registered under Russian law when they run out – an additional headache for farmers, who also need to get new documents for land use which were not required under Ukraine.

Only after all these papers are ready can farmers get any government subsidies. The Kalinina farm managed in 2014 to scrape funds together (with no operational banks after annexation, it was impossible to get a loan) to drill a borehole before all the extensive documentation was required and costs were lower. But because of limits on groundwater use, even the new borehole does not supply enough water. The collective is still trying to get documents together so it can apply for a subsidy for the drip irrigation system it has laid – a more economical system providing water directly to roots of crops, but which has to be replaced after one or two growing seasons, at yet more expense in both time and money.

The collective is still earning out the outlay on the borehole, and is not cultivating as much land, or employing as many workers, as formerly. This season the 450-hectare farm is growing 180 hectares of grain and animal feed, and 100 hectares of vegetables.

“We’d be happy to take more water and cultivate a bigger area, but there are limits and you can’t do anything about that,” said farmer Vladimir Vasilievich. The vegetables will be frozen and sent to Russia. Before 2014, the produce was sold to Ukraine.

“It was hard to get into the Russian market,” Vladimir admitted. But watching his harvest of carrots and cabbages being brought in, he remained cautiously upbeat. “If it had been little by little, this becoming part of a new state… It is a bit hard. But it’s already easier now than the first year, we’ve adapted.”

A forgotten crisis

Behind any optimism in Pervomaisk, and fear of saying the wrong thing, is a thinly cloaked desperation. “Can you help us?” asked Mironyuk’s deputy Antonina Oltyanova, after nevertheless insisting that there is no crisis and farmers have been able to adapt successfully to new conditions. Crimean media has stopped covering their troubles, she said, since after two years the situation had not changed. “Can you influence this issue of water? If it worked out that your information was published and people read it and helped, we’d be really grateful.”

In fact, the only positive influence has been unusually high rainfall which saved Pervomaisk’s harvests in 2015 and 2016. Crimean authorities have suggested the higher rainfall is an environmental result of the North Crimean Canal’s closure. But neither climate miracles nor boreholes are likely to save this region. Infrastructural problems have compounded water shortages – livestock farming for example has suffered because hay and silage can no longer be grown locally and the expense of bringing it from Russia is prohibitive. Last year an outbreak of swine flu devastated the industry even further.

Mironyuk and Oltyanova long for a renewed agreement with Ukraine to restore water. But it is out of the hands of local people, most of whom have lived and worked on the land here for decades.

“What can we say, from here down below? It’s for the government to decide,” said Mironyuk. “I’m even afraid to say something. Of course we really want it, believe me. To get the canal network going and grow even those vegetable we grew before – if they gave us water, I’ve worked it out, it’d be possible to take all our produce to the Russian mainland and the whole amount would be gobbled up entirely – except maybe Krasnodar region wouldn’t allow it,” he added worriedly, “they’re also serious agricultural producers…”

This story is part of the Objective Investigative Reporting Project, a MYMEDIA project supported by the Danish government. The story can be republished freely with credits. Content is independent of the donor.

Lily Hyde is a British writer who has been living in and travelling around Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Union and the far east for over fifteen years. In addition to writing fiction, she covers Ukraine affairs for international media including The Guardian, The Times, Foreign Policy, Newsweek, New Internationalist. Lily also works as a consultant in public health and human rights.

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  • Murf

    So how are they liking being apart of the glorious Russian Mir now?

    • Tony

      Alas education is not cheap. Some lessons are very expensive.

      • Murf

        Well they made a big boy choice when they decided to betray their country.
        Now they get to pay the big boy price.
        What’s more they need to continue paying it until they truly understand that Putin and Russis have really and truly screwed them, maybe just maybe, they will give up on their mindless love of Russia
        But I doubt it.
        Of course none of this applies to the ethnic Ukrainians and Tartars.
        They knew they were screwed from the start.

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          Only a few of them did. Forget the “95% voting to join Dwarfstan” in that rigged “referendum”. The REAL result was briefly posted on the website of Ella Pamfilova, then Dwarfstan’s Presidential Ombudsman for Human Rights, but quickly removed: only about 30% of the population actually voted, with about half voting for “immediately joining Dwarfstan”, or 15% of the total population. The other choice was “first independence and joining Dwarfstan later”, the “referendum” did not offer the choice “remain part of the Ukraine”.

          Even Igor Girkin called the “referendum” a farce on Dwarfstanian TV in January 2015.

          • Alex George

            Very good points.

            The people of Crimea are being screwed by the incompetent managers in the Kremlin, the ethnic Russians just as much as the Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            I’d say the Crimean Tatars are being screwed most of all, the ethnic Ukrainians slightly less so, the ethnic Dwarfstanians least of all. The latter have a “privileged” position in that sense though they too suffer from the Kremlin’s and Aksyonov’s dictatorship.

        • Andrew Chmil

          “But I doubt it.”

          YEP!!! You KNOW them! — That HORDE mentality.

          Also (via Julia Davis as usual … ):

          Putin to Trump: Lift Sanctions Or Ukraine Gets It
          http://www.newsweek.com/putin-trump-lift-sanctions-or-ukraine-gets-it-554691

          AND per Julia — OF COURSE:

          Here’s NYT on China investors helping with Kushner’s troubled 666 Fifth Avenue property shortly after Nov election

          https://t.co/aCh6Xb4o5R

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      They’ll like it even less when Medvedev comes round to tell them that the National Welfare Fund is empty and there’s no money for ANY pensions, never mind an increase. The Reserve Fund will be empty this year according to Tatyana Golikova, head of Dwarfstan’s National Accounting Agency, leaving only the Welfare Fund to be plundered for the dwarf’s senseless wars in Syria and the Donbas.

    • туфтуф

      They are right as rain. Restructuring. Rebuilding. Awake. Lolz

      • Alex George

        Yes it is hilarious when you try to say that with a straight face, isn’t it?!

        The reality for crimeans is empty fields and starving children, all thanks to glorious Kremlin rule!

        • туфтуф

          But l gave u the pic of the bridge and airport. Wtd is wrong with u? No brains at all? And i even shared pics sent to me privately, not meant to be shared with some bums.

          • Alex George

            As others have pointed out, your pics do not appear to be of Crimea at all. But in any case, what does this have to do with the fact that the people of Crimea are facing empty fields and starving children, all thanks to glorious Kremlin rule?

          • туфтуф

            That is silly. My friends say they eat well. The only real snag is that Crimean bubbly wine costs more in Crimea than in Moscow.

          • Brent

            Is Russia exporting ratburgers and palm oil cheese to Crimea?

            I think you should go on a steady diet of the sh*t food that Russia is now feeding its citizens TOTO….

            https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/warning-this-is-not-cheese-in-russia-watch-what-you-eat-54689

          • Alex George

            No, its the simple truth, and you have no friends in Crimea .

            Agriculture is falling apart in Crimea and life is very hard. The Russian authorities are so incompetent they cannot even provide water and electricity for much of the time .

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            IF he has “friends” in the Crimea and IF they are eating well, they are without a doubt cronies of Aksyonov and Co. They are probably the only ones eating well.
            NOT the kind of people I would like to associate with.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            You have demonstrated an appalling lack of breeding. If those pics were given to you privately as you claim, you should not be sharing them at all under ANY circumstances whatsoever- that’s simply NOT DONE!
            You didn’t share them with bums, unless you are referring to your fellow Savushkina trolls. They are indeed bums, deadbeats, the dregs of Dwarfstan’s “society”.

          • туфтуф

            But if my friends knew l shared them, they wldnt be offended. Even if l gave their full names, they are safe from SBU persecution cuz of being on Russias territory….

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            “But if my friends knew….” clearly indicates that they DON’T know (assuming, of course, that they actually exist)!!! And you should have asked their permission first before posting their pics. And received it, of course.
            My remark about an appalling lack of breeding stands.

          • туфтуф

            I know u old perv. U want Tanyas details. She s extremely LOVELY, 28 y o, but ur NOT getting anything more. I already gave u Marinas pic. The 1 standing under an arch in her home town (village). Search for her, but Tanya u wnt get.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            What makes you think that I would be interested in a non-existent Tanya? Or a supposed Marina who could be ANYWHERE in Dwarfstan?

          • туфтуф

            Stoopid again. Dnt u see the fortress and the arch on the pic? Do l have to teach u spy techniques? U r dumb, u wldnt understand them at all. Am wasting my time. From now on, only brief messages with u.

          • Brent

            Can you eat a f*cking bridge? How about some airport that is built to serve tourists from Russia that can no longer afford to vacation in Crimea?

            https://themoscowtimes.com/news/russias-last-minute-travel-boom-ends-amid-economic-woes-57087

            Soviet monuments to war crimes. That’s all those are.

      • Brent

        Yes, Russian’s Kremlin mafia is long over due for “restructuring and rebuilding”….

  • Dagwood Bumstead

    Lack of water was one of the reasons Stalin decided to transfer the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, as pedo Putolini should have known but obviously didn’t- or, if he DID know, simply ignored. And solving this problem will cost Dwarfstan billions of $$$, which it doesn’t have.

    • Xeroi Ato

      You’re an amazing historian. When Crimea was transferred to Ukraine, Stalin was already dead. It was done under Khruschev.

      Then again this is generally the educational level of the average Euromaidan supporter.

      • Quartermaster

        Stalin had intended to do so, but there was the minor matter of his death that prevented his taking the action.

      • Dagwood Bumstead

        A little history lesson, though it’s probably completely wasted on a lobotomised, neutered, samogon- and Krokodil-addicted Savushkina troll.
        Stalin had decided to transfer the Crimea, but died before he could implement it in March 1953. His successor as both 1st Secretary of the CPSU and chairman of the Council of Ministers and Prime Minister was Georgi Malenkov, NOT Nikita Khrushchev. Check your history books- REAL history books, that is, not the drivel that currently passes for history books in Dwarfstan.
        In the summer of 1953 Malenkov and Khrushchev travelled to the Crimea to see the situation for themselves, and came to the conclusion that Stalin was right: the Crimea’s many problems could best be solved by transferring the peninsula to the Ukrainian SSR. With the full approval of the Presidium (later called Politburo) this was done in January 1954, with Voroshilov as Head of State signing the decree concerning the transfer on 19/2/1954.

        The Presidium had meanwhile decided that the power Stalin had had should not be concentrated in the hands of one person, and in September 1953 Malenkov handed over the function of 1st Secretary of the CPSU to Khrushchev (presumably not voluntarily), but he remained Chairman of the Council of Ministers and Prime Minister until he was deposed in 1955 (Note: AFTER the transfer of the Crimea!), though he remained a member of the Presidium for several more years, eventually being kicked out and ending as manager of a power plant in Kazakhstan.

        It should be noted also that in the 171 years that the Crimea was under the control of Russia and later the RSFSR (1783-1954), NOTHING was done to solve the peninsula’s many problems, including lack of water, infrastructure, and total absence of any industry. It required the Ukrainians to achieve that.

        • туфтуф

          Whoever gave Crimea to Ukraine is irrelevant. Who it belongs to now, isnt.

          • Alex George

            Correct, and it belongs to Ukraine. Let’s hope the Russians leave soon, for the sake of the oppressed people of Crimea.

            As the article says, Crimea was happy under Ukrainian rule, and is now suffering under Kremlin incompetence.

          • туфтуф

            Wrong tense. Poor grammar? Or denial of reality? U need to say it belonged once to ukroland and will again.

          • Alex George

            No, right tense. it belongs to Ukraine. Let’s hope the Russians leave soon, for the sake of the oppressed people of Crimea.

            As the article says, Crimea was happy under Ukrainian rule, and is now suffering under Kremlin incompetence.

          • туфтуф

            U r not making sense. How cn smth that belongs to me belong to u at the same time? Or r u a commie?

          • Brent

            What makes you think that you, a self Burmese born London living resident has any claim to Crimea?

            Just because you married a Russian stripper doesn’t make you owner of Crimea.

          • Alex George

            Very easily. Crimea belongs to Ukraine. Russia’s theft is recognised by no-one (except North Korea ha ha) .

            Let’s hope the Russians leave soon, for the sake of the oppressed people of Crimea.

            As the article says, Crimea was happy under Ukrainian rule, and is now suffering under Kremlin incompetence.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            It’s also recognised by the world’s other crackpots- Mugabe, Morales, Ortega, Maduro and the late Fidel. But not even Lukashenko and Nazarbaev, supposedly the dwarf’s closest allies, recognise the dwarf’s piracy. Lukashenko has publicly condemned the seizure repeatedly, despite the dwarf trying to force him to change his mind.

          • Alex George

            Very good point – I forgot the other pariah nations. What wonderful company for Russia to be in! ;o)

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            They are not just pariahs, but also practically bankrupt. Another thing they share with Dwarfstan.
            Birds of a feather…..

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            It’s VERY relevant as Dwarfstan and it’s Savushkina trolls keep bleating that the Crimea was illegally transferred by a drunk Khrushchev. If so then the whole 19th Presidium was collectively drunk, not only Khrushchev. He wasn’t its only member, it also included Malenkov (a Stalinist hardliner), Molotov (ditto), Kaganovich, Voroshilov (both Stalin’s toadies), Anastas Mikoyan (brother of Artem Mikoyan of MiG fame) and several others.
            And both Yeltsin and Pedo Putolini recognised the Crimea as Ukrainian in all relevant treaties they signed with Kyiv. End of story.

          • туфтуф

            I think it was legally given to Ukraine. But illegally returned to its rightful owner. Russia should have begged for it back, and not use the will of the anti ukrainian sentiment of the Crimea ppl in order to snatch it back. Maybe the ukrainian illegal gvt would have given the Russian territory back anyway. It is against the law to keep someone’s possession, even if it was given away for a time.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            The Crimea’s rightful owner is the Ukraine. The peninsula is merely temporarily illegally occupied by a fascist dictatorship i.e. Dwarfstan, which will pay a very high price for its total disregard of both international law and treaties it signed freely with the Ukraine in which it explicitly recognises the Crimea as Ukrainian. No discussion of Ukrainian sovereignty is possible.

          • туфтуф

            Russia can pay any price. U just name it. Lybian oil cummin its way…

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Libyan oil will only cause oil prices to drop, the last thing Pedo Putolini needs. And Dwarfstan can’t afford anything as its Treasure Chest is almost empty. Tatyana Golikova, Head of Dwarfstan’s National Accounting Agency, stated in the Duma last December that the Reserve Fund will be emptied during 2017, leaving only the Welfare Fund to be plundered to finance the dwarf’s senseless wars in Syria and the Donbas. That means NO MORE PENSIONS for Dwarfstanians, including YOU!!!
            Medvedev will be flying all over Dwarfstan to explain to the pensioners that the money’s gone. Will they like it? I doubt it, and neither will you.

          • туфтуф

            Quantity makes up for the drop in price. Over the last 100 yrs, most wars were fought over energy. What is going on in Ukraine is nothing but the Wests attempt to break Russia up and lay its hands on Russias resources. Stories abt nascent ukro “demoNcracy” , nazis, birth of a nation, Russian aggression are just a smoke screen. I do not expect anyone here will understand me, yet l wrote it. Useless am l….lolz

          • Brent

            Hey TOTO, if Crimeans really wanted to secede and join Russia, why did only 4% of them vote for Sergei Aksyonov’s separatist Russian Unity party in 2010 Crimean parliamentary elections?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_parliamentary_election,_2010

            How come in this 2013 PEW Research poll, less that one quarter of Crimeans wanted to be part of Russia?

            http://www.ibtimes.com/gallup-poll-shows-crimeans-had-very-different-ideas-about-russia-last-year-1561821

            Only foolish mindless thinking sheeple like yourself believe Russia’s claims and referendum results that had 123% of the residents of Sevastopol voting in the shame referendum

            http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/03/17/over-123-of-sevastopol-residents-vote-to-join-russia/

          • Brent

            FOR ONCE, YOU GOT SOMETHING RIGHT. According to the United Nations and the majority of countries, CRIMEA STILL BELONGS TO UKRAINE.

            http://www.voanews.com/a/un-general-assembly-declares-crimean-vote-to-join-russia-invalid/1880715.html

            http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=47443#.WKIbCm_ysxE

            If a thief steals your https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fc77dd5eea670786e64dbf0f31fdc4334e3587e923c079908bd3f01ca3a2aa1.jpg car, and claims it his now his, that does not mean he is correct.

      • Kruton

        Lenin’s tomb will pissed on then burned!

        • туфтуф

          Gettin necrophiliac a bit, are we? After bestiality was legalised in US for serving soldiers back in 2011, it wldnt surprise me if u r a retired US soldier. Lol

          • Kruton

            #dumb Russki

          • туфтуф

            Aint no Rus, KURTON.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Oh yes you are!!!

          • туфтуф

            I was talkink to KURTON (Serbian for condom), not to u, Steady Bummy bum.

          • Alex George

            Sorry but how do you get “necrophilia” out of that post? Read it again – desecration certainly, but nothing about necrophilia.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Don’t be TOO hard on туф-туф. Thanks to his lobotomy, neutering (both are Savushkina troll job requirements) and samogon and Krokodil addiction, comprehension is minimal. Being “educated” in Dwarfstan doesn’t help either.

          • туфтуф

            Sorry. I meant bestiality.

          • Alex George

            No, its not bestiality either. Invest in a dictionary and do a short course in English.

          • туфтуф

            Sorry. I tot bestiality depicts an action of a US soldier making love to a goat in Afganistan while guarding poppy fields for opium production. Which is used to finance CIA ops.

          • Alex George

            Ha ha, silly old windbag tries to cover up his mistake.

            The post to which you replied had nothing to do with necrophilia or bestiality. Keep trying – you might eventually get it half right! ;o)

          • Murf

            Wishful thinking on his part.

          • Alex George

            Ha ha that is very obvious – same for the bestiality!

      • Kruton

        Collective farms,LOL!!!!

      • Alex George

        Looks like you don’t know your history as well as you thought. Stalin has already made the plans.

  • туфтуф

    Crimea has to reorganise itself after becoming part of Russia after 50 yrs or so. Hick-ups, similar to birth pangs. Heres a new airport terminal in Simferopol being built. Pic from 4 hrs ago. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e7899f2322d3005310744c55cc0854f23c6201c161c715607367a14f9afff94.jpg

    • Alex George

      LOL On another thread you said it was of something different.

      The poor old windbag who claims to know everyone important, but has no proof of anything.

      • туфтуф

        I.was sent this pic yday by Tanya from Simferopol. After how much Russia invested into Crimea infrastructure, it will help Ukraine not to waste its money on it once (if ever) it gets it back. Maybe Trump will persuade P to do a territorial swap with Russia somewhere and ukros get a revamped Crimea back?
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e7899f2322d3005310744c55cc0854f23c6201c161c715607367a14f9afff94.jpg

        • Alex George

          Sure you were sent it.

          Next time try to get your story straight the first time. ;o)

          • туфтуф

            Yorge dnt just let ur intelligence deteriorate any further. U r fine as u r.

          • Alex George

            I know I am.

            And you don’t know anyone in Crimea. ;o)

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            He probably knows Aksyonov and his criminal cronies………

          • Alex George

            I doubt it. I have so far seen no sign that he knows anyone. Every time he is challenged, he cannot come up with anything, except unattributable photos or info that has been in the press already for days or weeks. He is a blow-hard, nothing more.

        • Murf

          That swap already took place.
          Teragnog City and land equal to Crimea was transferred to Russia in exchange.
          Let me guess, The Russian propaganda machine failed to mention that fact?
          They have that habit.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Belgorod, Taganrog and fertile land (in all an area roughly the size of the Crimea) were transferred to the RSFSR between 1919 and 1922. So the transfer of the Crimea by Malenkov (but initiated by Stalin) can be seen as a belated compensation, though the reasons for the transfer had nothing to do with the earlier handover.

          • Andrew Chmil

            Speaking of Ruski propaganda……
            Many of these new “disqus channels” are:

            (like “Ukraine Today USA”)

            Copy for you:
            ———————–

            You wrote on Ukraine Today USA:

            Harald Oslo Norway
            to
            Hoping for Peace

            “So, why does “Ukraine Today USA” post Muscovy garbage like this?
            Those who might want to read the statements of Muscovy scaryclowns, know
            where to find it!
            Some people, for example school children / youth /
            students might think articles at Ukraine Today USA have passed som kind
            of quality and reliability control!
            There is so much real and
            important information, from realiable, democratic and sivilized sources,
            that you could help spread, instead!
            Eventually, if you insist: Put Sputnik articles in a seperate tragicomic section, clearly countering the BS!”

            Because Harold. Ukraine Today USA is a Ruski Troll & *MOLE* site.
            ALL THE MODERATORS ARE TROLLS & *MOLES* …. to infiltrate.
            They *claim* they put BS LYING articles “just for laughs” — NOPE!
            It’s why I & a few other posters are BANNED — so I tell you this “here” :)

            Why
            did ” Ларисса ” claim that CRIMEA is Russian, and when ” slavko ” asked
            & challenged her about it, ignored him and ONLY wrote “stupid &
            empty stuff” about NOTHING… — as these MOLES ALWAYS DO…. all of the “most regular
            posters there” just make EMPTY NOISE while “mostly” pretending to be
            pro-Ukr. — but WILL “ban” you if you EXPOSE any of them as
            trolls….
            Besides ALL the “moderators” —- & “Mike” — “Vasyl P.”,
            “Susannah” etc. are MOLES & would be infiltrators. :)

            So now you know. It’s just a “sneakier” Ruski way.
            Cc:
            Maria L.
            Murf

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          “yday”??? What kind of English is that? Is that the level of English taught in Dwarfstan? Not surprising given the appallingly low salaries of Dwarfstan’s teachers. And the dwarf slashing the budget for education to fund his aggression in Syria and the Donbas won’t improve matters one bit.

          • туфтуф

            Yday is short for Putins Crimea. Tanya says it belongs to Russia now. I believe her coz she bee on the ground. Says she sees Russian fleet from her apt. window.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            First you state Tanya lives in Simferopol…. now you state she can see Dwarfstan’s “fleet” from her apartment window. You really know how to contradict yourself, don’t you? You don’t even know that Simferopol is nowhere near the sea!!!!

            Try again.

          • туфтуф

            I was speaking figuratively. She travels a lot thru Crimea taking pics. Hobby.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            No ordinary Crimean can afford an apartment in Simferopol AND one in Sevastopol. The only way “Tanya” could afford that- IF she exists, which is highly unlikely since all of the pics you attribute to her have been exposed as bogus- is if she offers her “services” to Aksyonov and Co, making her part of the Goblin’s criminal fringe.

            Try harder- or rather, tell your Savushkina supervisor to try harder.

          • туфтуф

            Tanya has NO apartment. 28 y o living in Simferopol, working in an advertizing company and travelling and taking pics a lot.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            But you stated “Says she sees Russian fleet from her apt. window” clearly indicating that she has an apartment in Sevastopol. At the same time, she lives in Simferopol according to you, meaning a second apartment.
            And what NORMAL 28 yo still lives with his/her parent(s) anyway?

            Try…… just a little bit harder.

          • туфтуф

            Figuratively. She travels a lot on business and her hobby is photography.

          • туфтуф

            Lives with mom.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      “Hick-ups”??? Tut-tut, туф-туф. Just thank your lucky stars you didn’t have my old headmistress. Woe betide anyone who made such a mistake- the culprit would be in Serious Trouble indeed.

  • туфтуф

    Putin’s Russia in real time…well, 2 hrs ago. Tanya’s cat looking at apartment blocks waiting for spring to come to Simferopol. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f4174c1b8d572e86148320a4d34aa4611a46cf25390ca5ff9d85e8e8cbad89d6.jpg

    • Alex George

      Wow, a picture of a cat. LMAO

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      It MAY be Tanya’s cat…. and then again it may be, say, Lyudmila’s cat. But who cares? And what’s the point of this pic? There is NOTHING to identify where it was taken!

      • туфтуф

        Thats Simferopol. I tot those who love Crimea wld love to take a glimpse.

    • Brent

      You may want to tell your friend “Tanya” her cat is cheating on her. According to Sergei Kudryavtsev blog, as of yesterday this cat is living in Moscow and hasn’t been out of its apartment for 14.5 years….

      http://kinanet.livejournal.com/

      oh wait!!! in 2013 the cat was here!!!

      https://www.artur.lv/2013/03/1663.html

      TOTO, if you’re going to steal photos (how Russian of you!!!), at least try to source them first….MORON!!!

  • Alex George

    “But if we had Dnipro water,” he said resignedly, “the crop yield would be twice as high”.”

    In that single sentence, it sums up Russia’s failed annexation of Crimea. Russia has neither the expertise nor the resources to administer Crimea.

    Russia will eventually leave, as its society and army collapses, and the Ukrainian army and government will be welcomed with flowers and tears of joy, by people who are experiencing the true shock of Kremlin rule.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      Precisely, and that’s why Stalin (Pedo Putolini’s Great Hero and Shining Example) initiated the transfer to the Ukrainian SSR, though it was his successor Malenkov who actually implemented Stalin’s decision.