Putin: Ukrainians and Russians are one people

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2015/08/17 • News, Russia

“I believe that Russians and Ukrainians form one people.” repeated Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with representatives of public associations in Crimea.

In addition, Putin stated that it was shameful and humiliating for the Ukrainian people to see their country being controlled by external forces, a practice condoned and supported by the current government in Kyiv.

“I am convinced that, despite all the troubles and difficulties, the situation will change in Ukraine. Ukraine will move away from the shameful practices that we see today, namely appointing key governmental and regional positions to foreign nationals.” said the Russian president.

According to Putin, this shameful practice is still positively viewed by most Ukrainians. But, Ukraine will get back on its feet and start developing in a more positive way. The president pointed out that he is confident Ukraine will build its future with Russia.

 

Translated by: Christine Chraibi
Source: Vesti

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  • Dirk Smith

    This dumb fascist will be removed by the end of the year-internally.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      I think that IF he is removed he will simply be replaced by a slightly less dumb fascist- Medvedev perhaps. However, I won’t be holding my breath.

  • Igor Z

    Classic case of denial. Starting to feel sorry for the sob. His downfall won’t be pretty. I doubt he will be offered the same sweet “deal” that he gave to Yeltsin.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      He won’t leave the Kremlin alive, so he will leave it dead. The question is, when? And don’t feel sorry for the dwarf- as ye sow, so shall ye reap. But will his successor be an “improvement”? Heaven help us if it’s Putin Junior i.e. Kadyrov.

      • Oknemfrod

        I would not feel sorry for the rat even if he were slowly impaled – suum cuique. As to whether his heir will be better or not, I’m not sure it’s an answerable question: Is a piece of turd better than a piece of dung? More important question is whether the current Kremlin’s maniacal policies will change significantly after the dwarf is gone. Methinks the answer is likely yes, for his demise will come owing to his policies and resulting rancor of those who’ll remove him. Also, if history is any indication, in Russia policies have always changed, often diametrically, after the next dear leader was gone. Those who came after Stalin, notably Beria, were from the same cohort and no angels, to put it mildly. However, the ugliest forms of stalinism started ebbing off practically immediately after the moustached killer kicked the bucket (most likely, not without a good deal of help from his comrades).

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          I would question “in Russia, policies have always changed…”. Was Nicholas II much different from Aleksandr III? Was Stalin really that much different from Lenin? Andropov from Brezhnev? I’ll leave Chernenko out of the equation because he was on his last legs when he became vozhd and literally required propping up, much like young Mr. Grace :).
          Whoever replaces the dwarf will come from his inner circle and he will find it extremely difficult to change course- the extreme nationalists led by Zhirinovsky, Dugin, Tamara Guzenkova and Co will make this pretty much impossible.

          I would argue that Khrushchev was the exception, though he had to sideline hardline Stalinists such as Malenkov and Molotov first before he could make his famous secret speech. And even Khrushchev’s thaw was only relative.

          • Oknemfrod

            Frankly, I don’t know whether the policies of Nicholas II were different from his father’s; probably not. During the Soviet era, though, yes, Stalin was much different from Lenin, policy-wise. Despite both being mass murderers and ne’er-do-wells, Lenin introduced NEP – and Stalin killed it and took the country in the direction I don’t have to tell you about. After Stalin’s demise some pretty radical policy changes were introduced by Beria almost immediately (in particular, the doctor’s affair was stopped, torture was banned in MGB, Beria was about to let the East Germans go) – which is, of course, why he himself was sacked. The policy changes from Krushchev to Brezhnev and from the latter to Andropov and especially from Chernenko – who was a mere placeholder – to Gorbachev (I’ve witnessed and lived through them all) were also quite radical by the Soviet standards – again, without any explicit change in the ideology. Of course, the Gorbachev-Yeltsin swap was pretty much revolutionary. So methinks that in general I have enough material to support my thesis ;).

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            One could argue that the REAL “Tsar” wasn’t Nicholas II but Aleksandra plus Rasputin; whichever was the case, the policies were as autocratic as Alekasndr III’s were. Nicholas only made some extremely limited concessions when he had to. It’s sad that his brother and successor Mikhail wasn’t officially coronated as Tsar in 1917, or even succeeded Aleksandr III; Nicholas didn’t want to become Tsar but as first-born he felt he had to.
            The same applies to Lenin: he only introduced NEP because he had to, War Communism having wrecked the economy. Had he lived, though, he would eventually have ended NEP just as Stalin did in my opinion. The way in which Lenin dealt with the Kronshtadt mutiny and Tambov rebellion in 1921 clearly shows that he was as ruthless as Stalin. Lenin could assume one position one one day and a totally opposite one the next if it suited him, see his 1914 speech in which he was fully in favour of Ukrainian independence, yet he ruthlessly crushed the UNR when he had power in Russia.
            I submit that Beria was quickly removed because everybody else feared his power, rather than because of his real and potential policies. Khrushchev ended the Stalinist terror with his famous secret but not-so-secret-after-all speech and he probably approved of Beria ending the doctors’ affair and torture though I’m not sure that hardliners such as Malenkov and Molotov did. Whatever the case, I think that the peoples of the SU should be glad that Stalin died when he did (assisted on his “way out” or not) and sad that he did not die years before 1953.

          • Oknemfrod

            Concur with everything except that nobody knows whether Lenin would have ended NEP or not if he had lived longer. What we do know is that he did introduce it – even though of course because he had to – but that meant a radical departure from his own rigid ideological tenets, albeit presumably temporarily. The gestalt of the ensuing Stalin’s actions has shown that he was incapable of that. I’d surmise that if he had been in charge instead of Lenin after the military communism, he would have merely doubled down on it. Of course, it’s speculative on my part, too.

        • Petrolkoks

          Russia is broke. Like, totally. Whoever will be successor, will have no money to do anything with.

          • Oknemfrod

            It’s actually a very good point.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            I submit that it’s not totally broke, but it IS on its way there. The ruble is falling day by day. Much is made of exports becoming cheaper, but what does Dwarfstan export? Oil and gas, and some raw materials. Their prices have fallen so any gain in exchange rate (more rubles for a dollar) is negated by less $$$ per barrel of oil, for instance. Inflation has gone up, which eats away any potential profit. Dwarfstan’s main customer for oil and gas, the EU, is diversifying its suppliers which means less sales long-term. Iran is re-entering the oil and gas market which will drive oil and gas downwards even further. Peking has postponed the dwarf’s Great Gas Deal indefinitely.
            Often overlooked are, first, the Yukos verdicts which mean Dwarfstan has to pay Yukos shareholders $52 billion which will make a nice dent in the foreign exchange reserves. The verdicts are final, no appeal is possible. Unlike Dwarfstan, verdicts are upheld in the EU, US, Canada and many other countries where the law is taken very seriously indeed. The dwarf can refuse to cough up, but that will only mean that eventually Dwarfstan assets abroad will be seized to make him comply. Second, Gazprom can look forward to lawsuits for abuse of monopoly, unfair pricing etc etc. The dwarf can’t influence the courts here either. Third, there will be Ukrainian lawsuits for illegally seizing the Crimea, sending Dwarfstan mercenaries and troops to the Donbas, damage to properties on Ukrainian soil etc etc. Again, the dwarf can’t influence the courts.
            But the biggest problem is that the 20-year moratorium on repaying Soviet debt to the US which Dwarfstan inherited as successor state to the USSR has ended. The figures are astronomical- not billions, but trillions. And Dwarfstan doesn’t have the $$$.

          • Oknemfrod

            Yup, all true, And the $1m question is *what he is going to do* when the treasure is empty, which is forthcoming with inevitability in not so distant future (likely no more than a year from now) due to all the factors you’ve listed and more – and even the demented dwarf must understand it. My guess is that since he has no means of replenishing the treasury by either making money or borrowing, he and his clansmen are pondering over one or another international racket scheme invariably involving use of weaponry or its threat thereof.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            The Russian commentator Ania Dorn published several articles on these problems on informnapalm.org. They can be read in Russian and German, though not in English yet. One of them is accompanied by an extremely cynical piece in German written by ex-deputy prime minister Alfred Kokh, originally written in Russian last November and published on a Russian website.
            The dwarf can threaten with nukes, but the consequences would be far-reaching indeed and one can only hope that the few sane people in Moscow remove him one way or the other before he uses them.
            He can, of course, threaten to put his siloviki friends behind bars if they don’t hand over some of their ill-gotten gains but this will probably mean that he gets a one-way trip to the Lubyanka, Lefortovo or Sukhanovka instead- they won’t like that at all, I suspect. And he can shake Proffessor Viktor, son Oleksandr, Azarov and chums down: give me 90% of your loot or you’re on the next flight to Kyiv. But that won’t get him very far- a year at most. Time is running out for the dwarf, and so are his options.

          • Oknemfrod

            Thanks for the link to the site. Unfortunately, I’m not fluent in German, but Russian will suffice.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            Here’s the direct link to the piece written by Alfred Kokh in Russian:
            http://rufabula.com/news/2014/10/05/collapse-of-russia

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            And here are the direct links to Ania Dorn’s articles in Russian. They are in chronological order. She has written a few others, but they haven’t been translated into German or English yet so I haven’t included them- my Russian is too limited to fully understand them. Anyway, read and shudder:
            https://informnapalm.org/9735-try-proygrannyh-vojny-gaz-zemlya-y-chelovechnost
            https://informnapalm.org/9949-rossyya-stremytsya-v-besprosvetnoe-budushhee
            https://informnapalm.org/10808-moral-basny-torzhestvo-nevezhestva-nad-zhyznyu

          • Oknemfrod

            Thanks. Right on the money, except this:

            “СМИ осатанеют окончательно и будут во всем винить Запад и Украину. Власти кинутся к Китаю в надежде на то, что тот подкинет деньжат. Он ничего не даст.”
            (For the anglophones: “The media will descend into the most satanic mode and blame everything on the West and Ukraine. The powers-to-be will throw themselves at the mercy of China hoping that it will throw in some moolah. It will give nothing.”)

            Wrong tense. Should be Present Perfect. It has already happened.

          • Dagwood Bumstead

            True, but remember the article was published on October 5th 2014. Nobody could have foreseen that Peking would decide to postpone the dwarf’s Great Gas Deal indefinitely for instance.
            And so far the Chinese haven’t turned any Dwarfstanians into sausage as far as I know.

  • optionrider

    Russia keeps drowning in its own excrement. Crimea and Donbas are the millstones tied to Putler’s neck that will assure the completeness and irreversibility of this process.

  • Dagwood Bumstead

    Russians and Ukrainians do NOT form one people, you stupid sick demented dwarf!

  • Brent

    I’m Ukrainian and do not share the Russian values of invasion, theft, kidnapping, murder and lying.

    THEREFORE, I AM NOT RUSSIAN

    • Jacks Channel

      Are you and Russian’s one people.? Please clarify this point for all of our Putin supporters and America haters so they can get a correct view of history.

      Also let them know who started Maidan and why. Some people think that the U.S. made Ukrainians turn their backs on Russia, and that you can’t think on your own.

      • Brent

        No, Russians and Ukrainians are different people with a different language, and as it now turns out, a different value system. I was born and raised Ukrainian with Ukrainian language, culture and customs, which were distinct from Russians. Yes there are similarities, but we never considered ourselves “Russians”, and neither do the vast majority of present day citizens of Ukraine.

        I find it similar to Canadians and Americans. We are similar in many ways, but not the same ‘people’. The same can be said about Australians and New Zealanders, or Chinese and Tibetans.

        Maidan started as a protest by students against Yanukovych’s refusal to sign the EU Association agreement in November of 2013. His government campaigned on this in 2010 (one of the reasons he was elected) and his government worked on this agreement for at least two years before he abruptly made demands of concessions from Europe of up to $115 billion for Ukraine to sign the EU Association agreement. After he refused, he took a $15 billion ‘loan’ (I think this was a bribe) from Putin and Russian to instead align Ukraine with Putin’s Eurasion Union.

        The students started the protest and were attacked while sleeping in tents by the armed Berkut officers sent in by Ukraine’s governemnt to disperse them. This galvanized other Ukrainians who felt ‘their children were attacked’ by armed police (the Berkut was Ukraine’s elite riot police) and the protests grew in size and focus from there when over 800,000 to possibly one million showed up on several occasions at Maidan.

        Yanukovych’s answer was more riot police, hiring ‘titushki’ to intimidate and attack citizens and on January 16th of 2014 an attempt to bring in legislation outlawing protests. This is one the violence started and it was carried about by both sides. But when your government sends in armed troops to attack peaceful protesters, it is bound to lead to protesters also taking up arms to defend themselves against armed riot police attacking them.

        Did the U.S. support the idea and concept of Maidan? Absolutely. However, the fables of “Victoria Nuland’s magical cookies” and the “$5 billion CIA sponsored coup cheque” are nothing more than Kremlin fabrications. The U.S. gave the $5 billion in aid over 2+ years, and it is my understanding the gave over $18 billion to Russia in aid over that same period (including $454 million in 2012 when Russia was supposedly thriving and self sufficient and not in need of aid). The U.S. has been very uninvolved in Ukraine’s revolution to try and extricate itself from centuries of being dominated and overlorded by Russia and its stooges.

        A “coup” doesn’t happen when the President of your country flees. There is no “junta” when the military doesn’t take over. A caretaker government was quickly formed when Yanukovych fled the country and one of the first things they announced was new elections…..how ironic that this alleged ‘junta’ was immediately interested in giving up power to elected replacements!!!

        I hope that clarifies things. I’ve been telling the trolls this for over a year, and they are not interested in truth, but only in furthering Russia’s dominance and control of Ukraine. It’s ironic that almost every comment they make about Ukraine, or those of us that support it, are actually what Russia and they themselves are guilty of….but I guess so were those that supported Hitler’s Germany…

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          Actually, PM Azarov resigned on Jan. 28th 2014, which led to the collapse of his government. A new interim government was formed which had the support of a majority in the Rada, this was/is quite legal under the Ukrainian Constitution.
          Yanukovich fled because he had lost all support in the Rada after the deaths on and round the Maidan caused by the Berkut- even his own Party of Regions Rada members no longer supported him. No doubt His Master’s Voice (the dwarf) ordered him to flee to Dwarfstan. The Rada ordered him to return and resume his duties as president, which he refused. As a result the Rada started the procedure to depose him, which requires 75% in favour. 328 members were present for the vote, which was unanimous: kick the fat bastard out. In other words, 100%. The quorum (251 members or more) was present so the vote was legal.
          If the Ukrainian people had disagreed with kicking the fat bastard out they would have made their displeasure known by voting for one of the three pro-Dwarfstan candidates during the presidential election-Tihipko, Dobkin, or Symonenko. However, they did nothing of the sort. Poroshenko won in the first round with 54.7% of the vote, something Proffessor Viktor did not achieve in the second round in 2010. As for the three pro-Dwarfstan candidates, they got nowhere. Together they got 9.8% of the vote, a figure easily beaten by Yulia who got 12.8% and finished second. Pro-Western candidates got over 80% of the votes, from Poroshenko and Yulia to Olha Boholomets. That says it all, really. So does the steadily increasing support for NATO membership as shown in poll results, which did not exist before the demented dwarf started his stupid aggression against the Ukraine; a consequence he did not foresee.
          And if Proffessor Viktor still thinks he is the legit president he is always welcome to fly to Kyiv and claim his presidency- but he is too much of a yellow coward to do that; he proved that with his vendetta against Yulia. A “man” who is afraid of a woman??? Oh well, he can probably claim his consolation prize when the dwarf appoints him president of the new Donbas People’s Republic, the merged LNR and DNR.

        • gmab

          I find it simpler at times just to explain that Ukrainians are a separate people like Lithuanians, Polish, Georgians, Latvians that were once under Soviet & Russian’s dominance. These countries were Russified as well & have Russian speaking populations. In 1991, all the above countries chose to become independant countries when USSR collapsed. Ukraine has similarities regarding language and customs with Poland as well as Russia, both bordering Ukraine. When asked why the War. Simple, Ukraine wants true democracy and less political interference from Russia who insists that Ukraine join the new trade association (a cover for a new USSR) with Russia as central power. Ukraine borders both Russia and European countries and wishes to return to her roots. Most people who are totally unfamiliar with events there, are satisfied with the above. Now, trolls won’t believe a thing you say no matter how true it is.

    • Amoun 3.0

      Hahahahahaha, really?
      oh my god
      I knew I would find you here. This explains everything lol

      • Brent

        Did you get reassigned from Kyiv Post already? Not bringing your ‘buddy’ ego AmounRah with you?

        • Amoun 3.0

          Assigned? Is that how it works for you guys?
          And my “buddy”?…..did not know I had split personalities….
          But of my goodness, you are such a clever little detective! Put Amoun and AmounRah together! Amazing. Kiev certainly selects the very clever ones
          *rolls eyes*

  • Hurd Harley

    No, Putler, we will never build our future with Russia, the #1 terrorist nation in the world.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      Adolf’s REAL Surname was Schicklgruber, so Putlgruber would be more correct :). However, I would prefer Putolini because he resembles Mussolini far more than Adolf. Like the dwarf, Mussolini liked cavorting in front of the press without a shirt. Like the dwarf, Mussolini played with wild animals, a lion cub in Mussolini’s case. Mussolini dumped his wife Rachele for a younger mattress, Claretta Pettachi; the dwarf dumped Lyudmila for Alina, 30 years his junior.
      And most tellingly, both had nothing but failures in their foreign policies and military adventures. Mussolini tried to seize Greece, a weaker country, but failed, requiring his chum Adolf to save his bacon. The dwarf is trying hard to make Kyiv bend to his will but has failed- and there’s no Adolf to save HIS bacon. The dwarf’s “chums” in Peking most definitely won’t oblige as they are very happy to have a weak Dwarfstan as neighbour- and the weaker the better. Like Mussolini, the dwarf can only achieve “success” if his opponent is far smaller and weaker- Abyssinia in Mussolini’s case, Georgia in the dwarf’s case.

      • Nowhere Girl

        I prefer calling him in a way that would allude to both Hitler and Stalin – Adolf Vissarionovich Putler.

  • Oknemfrod

    If it’s in his opinion “one people”, why doesn’t he understand Ukrainian? Back when he had official meetings with Yushchenko and the latter insisted (quite correctly, IMO) on speaking Ukrainian, the dwarf needed an interpreter.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      I could give several reasons for that. One is that he has the mentality of the old colonial master/bwana who insists that the natives speak HIS language when dealing with him.
      But it’s far more likely that his brainpower is so limited that he simply CAN’T absorb another language- his brain’s circuits would become overloaded if he tried. Compare it to trying to run Windows 7 on a Pentium I computer: the Pentium I becomes clogged and freezes because it can’t handle 7.

      • Oknemfrod

        Good points and an apt analogy. Presumably, he is conversant in German – living in E Germany as a KGB resident, he would have to be. Putinoids always brag of it as an indicator of his high intellect, however some Germans speakers who’ve heard him speak German have told me that his German really sucks. Allegedly, he’s been also leaning English and making progress, but all I’ve heard him is a couple of things no more complex than “okay”. What I do have an ability to assess on my own is his Russian, and I can tell unequivocally that it is extremely primitive from the standpoint of structure and vocabulary and laden with backyard and criminal jargon and placeholder interjections (Russians call them “the weed words”). Any well educated Russian speaker would be ashamed of anything like this coming out of his mouth.
        My main point was that one can see two persons conversing with each other, one in Ukrainian and the other – in Russian, as if they don’t even realize they speak two different languages (which is quite common in Ukraine), and derive from this that the Russians and the Ukrainians are the same people. Though the conclusion is as incorrect as any deduced from incomplete data, it’s at least somewhat understandable. However, here we have someone who does not even understand spoken Ukrainian, let alone can speak it, and yet has the temerity to proclaim the identity of the two peoples.

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          What else can one expect from a criminal but “backyard and criminal jargon”?

        • Nowhere Girl

          That reminds me of that Soviet joke:
          – Is it true that Andropov speaks English as good as Russian?
          – Not quite. He speaks Russian as goos as English…

          • Oknemfrod

            Which evokes another one attributed to Landau (the Nobel laureate in physics): Learning English is not all that hard; even the dumbest Englishmen speak it pretty well.

  • EUSrbin

    Russian propaganda wants to assimilate Ukrainian people.

  • Gryzelda Wrr, Polish Emirates

    Well, if Russians insist that they and Ukrainians are one people, perhaps they should consider joining Ukraine? Well, not a bad idea at all..

    • Murf

      Ukraine has a good thing developing here why would they mess that up?

      • Gryzelda Wrr, Polish Emirates

        True. From Ukraine’s point of view, it’s not a good deal. But Russians also should have right to have their dreams and aspirations :)

        • Murf

          A lot will have to change unfortunately.

    • Dagwood Bumstead

      Historically, Moscow was part of Kyiv Rus so Russia should really be governed from Kyiv. But why on earth would the Ukrainians even consider taking over a country that is morally totally bankrupt?
      To qoute the lovely young lady Anastasiya Dmitruk, “We will never be brothers”, “Никогда мы не будем братямы”.

      • Gryzelda Wrr, Polish Emirates

        I don’t believe in ‘never’. Germany has admitted to her crimes and asked for forgiveness. Russia can do the same. One day. I hope.

        • Dagwood Bumstead

          You are quite right when you write “Russia can do the same.” BUT…. the key word is “can”. I doubt that Russia will- certainly not in our lifetime. It would need a complete occupation like Germany was occupied and I don’t see that happening, or Russians changing of their own accord. Certainly the vlasti and siloviki will never change, they will ensure that their successors have the Seal of Approval. And the people are too lethargic, too apathetic. They seem to prefer wallowing in their own filth.

          • Geralt von Riva

            when were you on your last protest march or revolution? so much to lethargic^^

          • Gryzelda Wrr, Polish Emirates

            yeah, but when did your country last time take part in an aggressive war? i would have been on streets since february 2014 if I were Russian. or I would have given up my citizenship. i wouldn’t bear such shame.

          • Geralt von Riva

            Saxonia: Then go yet! (better:piss off)

            Hatred, extremism and foreclosure in Saxony: it is time for a Säxit? A commentary by Stefan Schirmer
            THE TIME Nº 34/201521. August 2015 08:57 clock

            For months, Saxony is the most unpleasant German state; it makes headlines with Pegida, right-wing extremism and attacks on refugees. Is it now time for a Säxit – the exit of Saxony from the Federal Republic?

            Almost daily decreases the level of polemic, which one has to apply to plead for this step. So
            warned doctors in Dresden, overlooking the “humanitarian catastrophe” in a refugee tent camp, here the Basic Law (constitution) was overridden. At the same place workers of the Red Cross were attacked. Whether in Freital, Meissen, Freiberg, Hoyerswerda or Böhlen – anywhere changes xenophobia into violence. 42 of Germany’s 202 attacks on asylum accommodation in the first half 2015 was attributable to Saxonia. The country is, in the worst sense, a class of its own.

            The flagship citizens of these days, are neither Kati Witt nor Kurt Biedenkopf, let alone Erich Kästner. It is an early retiree from Freital who made known what he considers from the commitment for Refugees: When beer sitting in front of a tavern, he stretched his arm to the Hitler salute.

            Now one could argue: Even in Freital or Dresden live helpful people. And political radicals and coldness of heart are everywhere. Yes, but the conditions in Saxony are yet different – flash, depraved, dangerous. Studies show that the four million Saxonians agree less to principles of democracy and tolerance than usual among Germans. “What is going on there?”, This question came up years ago when the NPD took up to 25 percent in elections in the Saxon Switzerland. Or when in Dresden Europe’s largest neo-Nazi march took place. And for months, on Monday here they are running for the “patriotic Europeans against the Islamization of the West” behind a convicted Saxony, who refugees calls “Viehzeug” (cattle). Still thousands are attracts by Pegida here. It is now clear that the movement is a Saxon phenomenon in the first place.

            Carsten Rentzing, Saxony Protestant bishop, said in June over Pegida: “As long as a demonstration follows the rules of this society, there is no right to criticize it.” A phrase that sounds like someone begging actually the rest of the country – to be divorced – the majority think differently. And have a separation not mutually benefit for all?

            The many Saxons who can live well with Pegida and Co. would have, more or less, no more to listen to moral reproaches. Instead, could flourish a patriotism between Bad Schandau and Niederwürschnitz. That “Saxony Pride”, that during the last 25 years of reigning in the Free State was propagated by the CDU. Citizens was beaten into their heads to have a high opinion of themselves and their peers. “to be Saxonian is the highest that can be a human being on earth!”, Tweeted recently a young CDU member of parliament. In Fraktur – no joke!

            That Saxony Union have made it big by talking it small and looking away from xenophobia and right-wing extremism – these criticisms could Prime Minister Tillich dismiss even more casual than undue interference in the internal affairs of the State.

            Conversely, should the rest of the Germans no longer be ashamed that Saxonia shows so
            little empathy, although they were for years experiencing great solidarity themself. Had it not been for the billions of other federal states, Saxony would never have risen from the ashes. To
            date, it generates only 44 percent of its budget itself, this is the difference to Bavaria. Also there many would like to become discharged into the state of freedom. But one will keep them (bavarians), if only because of its economy.

            Remains the question: Would a Säxit not unjustified? Have the Saxons, heroes of the peaceful revolution of 1989, not done much, and were not many of them humiliated in the past 25 years? Yes, perhaps. But if became arrogance from the arriving in Germany, from being offended became hatred; when the many decent people are not able to counter the relatively few Heartless – that dominate the picture : then shall the Saxons start their own country. no joke.

            http://www.zeit.de/2015/34/sachsen-austritt-bundesrepublik-rechtsextremismus-pegida

  • Dalton

    So is he saying he’s an Ukrop, or that Russians naturally kill and maim their own? Or is he saying, if you are “one” with us, we’ll take your land, kill your people and subject you to our “oneness”? That reminds me of the Borg- “We are Borg, resistance is futile, we will assimilate you”
    Where’s the Terminator when you need him?

  • Cargocat

    What a lying SOB Putin is.