The rusted nail of corruption in Ukraine

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2015/07/24 • Op-ed

Article by: Serhy Madovich

A Letter to the editor: In the wake of Canadian volunteers’ Appeal to the authorities of Ukraine.

We often hear the word corruption, but few know the literal translation from Latin. It consists of two parts: together, united and to destroy, to break down. The term best describes the current political and economic situation in Ukraine. From the old Soviet system we have inherited the same paradigm of values ​​- disrespect of people and the Law, irresponsibility, command and administrative management of the so-called vertically-oriented model of power.

There is an ongoing war. An idea is being promoted that the Government cannot be criticized right now. They tell that the timing to carry out reforms is not right. “Right after the war, yes, we immediately begin to act! Now all the criticism of the government only benefits the enemy!”, they tell. This is a typical “horror story” that persistently introduced to the masses. It is well known that fear is the best way to control people’s minds. Let’s see whether this is true. What are the risks of the policy of imitation, a showcase “flurry of activities” and pseudo-reforms?

1) The impossibility of joining NATO and receiving substantial military assistance.
Ukraine is ranked the fifth largest nation in Europe in terms of population. The quantity of arms and military equipment it requires is enormous. NATO must be fully confident in the irreversibility of Ukraine’s European choice, a confirmation of structural reforms, fighting corruption, respect for rights, real democracy. West (especially US and Canada) and NATO are not interested to strengthen a large corrupted State. Joining NATO is directly linked to structural reforms in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and in all other departments. It was openly stated by Canadian Ambassador to Ukraine, “Do not assign dumb people responsible for cooperation with NATO”. US Senator John McCain mentioned in regard combating corruption in Ukraine, “At this point it is important to overcome endemic corruption, to initiate an investigation of corruption cases and prosecute corrupt officials under the law”. The big problem is the incompetence and inability of Ukraine’s authorities to listen carefully to the message that come out from the West.

2) The impossibility to obtain substantial financial assistance and investments.
No significant loans and investments would be possible without addressing the above problems. Some of these concerns were discussed at the meeting of Mikheil Saakashvili with Odesa’s prosecutors on June 16th, 2015. “It needs to blow off motes,” was the main message of the meeting, regarding authorities’ dealing with local businessmen. Without a transparent procedures and lawful rules for doing business, there will be no trust on the part of investors and financial institutions.

3) The risk of disappointment and doubt in reforming the government.
An extremely slow transformation and reforming of the government during the war, total corruption, economic decline and a real income slump will eventually lead people to doubt the ability to make a difference, to influence the government. As a result, the motivation for such a transformation will fade. This will lead to a confidence’s drop in the current government in one part of the population, and the willingness to return to the “Pre-Maidan era ” in the other one. Revenge tendencies of the old bureaucracy will increase. This will weaken the ability of Ukraine’s armed resistance.

Unfortunately, last year was the time of missed opportunities in Ukraine. The authorities still operate by the principle “one step forward, two steps back.” Authorities in the regions have not changed, the Yanukovych’s Politbureau clings to its “manger.” Lustration has not occurred, and therefore no positive changes are expected. The West is ready to help – it is waiting for a request for help from the people of Ukraine. The military and financial assistance to Ukraine will depend on Ukrainian people, on their determined actions toward democracy. The people of Ukraine are the only source of power, the government and president are for exercising the people’s will. We need fundamental, revolutionary measures. The rusted nail needs no lubrication – it must be ripped out by iron tongs.

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  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

  • miguel

    UN with just border enforcement would be a game changer, I agree.
    The Kremlin would block that to the best of its ability though, but the block would show to the Russian population what is going on even more.

    The question becomes will they care and still send troops, guns and money by some other method?
    400km land border plus water ways is a lot to observe.
    And by observing, would they be able to control it? Is that enough?
    What would be the legal ramifications if the Kremlin were caught repeatedly?

    If the threat was thrown of the UNSC, I think it would be enough.
    BUT would the Kremlin just say then, screw it, we are going to war inside Ukraine and going to occupy all of it? Or a global conflict?
    Basically because they cannot influence the UN anymore with regard to its other criminal activities around the world?

    And that threat is a reaction most are trying to avoid, which shows appeasement and feeds the Kremlin machine even more.
    Sanctions and lower oil prices have done a lot, but has not ended it.
    Being cut off from Swift, and a strong reaction, should have happened after Crimea little green men entered, in my opinion.
    Doing so now though, vova says is an act of war.

    The Kremlin is being bled dry, will they continue to fund the operation?
    All words point to it being near its end, more and more Russian soldiers are showing up maimed in a war they are not fighting in.
    More and more Russians are going home after their three month rotation without the money they were promised.
    More and more Russians are going back and saying there are more fascists in Moscow then there are in Ukraine that they met.

    I think Russia could keep the war of Donbas going for 2 more years though financially and ideologically support, if they paid the families of injured and dead Russian soldiers.
    MH17’s reports may be a game changer of public opinion inside Russia.

    Some time between now and October, I see vova making the decision to go in full force, or backing off and if he does, he will be giving himself as a martyr for MH17 for amnesty to Russia.

    Can Ukraine and Poroshenko’s public opinion hold out that long?
    I think he has done a great job with the situation he has been put in, not many could have done better overall.

    It is all coming to a head in my opinion, but people have said that before.
    Free Savchenko, and other Ukrainians being held in Russian circus court system!

    • puttypants

      I agree with all you’ve said. However, I don’t think Ukraine can hold out for 2 more years without investment and with body bags coming back. They’ll have to ask themselves why are they dying for an EU that doesn’t want us that doesn’t want to help us? It’s a legit question. Are we wiping out corruption which is so important? Will we starve to death or freeze to death this winter. I’m sure so many young people that could have already left. What will be left of Ukraine in 2 years with no serious help from other countries?

      • miguel

        through * spelling edit about 2 years.
        I do not think it will last that long, they are bleeding money off investing in the bridge to Crimea.
        They are bleeding money off in many other ways.
        They are refusing to pay soldiers.
        I think Russia could last that long if there was a conscious will for them to stretch it out, but that is not going to happen.
        I think things will come to head once they receive DSB report in a couple weeks.
        They know the answers provided by the report already, but with it, the global community will begin to know.
        They will act before the global community has the full report.
        45 million people are a lot of people to take care of in Ukraine.
        Your right, until Ukraine can reassert itself on global markets it will probably not last if it was two more years of war.
        Maybe not even through winter.
        The efforts are being made though, change in gas supply, the corruption battle, the holding off of Russia’s wish for Mariupol.
        A lot of behind the scene battles are being fought with Russia in support of Ukraine.
        How much money even from Chinese investments are coming to Ukraine.
        They know with peace the can survive and that is a hard issue, because they do not want to give up either Crimea or Eastern Ukraine, and definitely not a land bridge.
        Yes, 2 years is a long time to wait in American leadership change, and even that is not guaranteed.
        Ukraine is slowly replacing a lot of the businesses from Russia.
        maybe not fast enough, but it is happening.
        They are not able to produce resources though to sell, which is a hindrance during war inside their nation to fuel their economy.
        I think if Merkel is at the point of frustration and divided loyalties, she should bow out.
        Kind of like the effectiveness of the OSCE.
        They are preventing complete disaster, but are still losing the battle that vova brought to them.
        I think all the numbers of them being fed clothed and warm have been computed, and the numbers of what they need, and the global community will supply that.
        The variable number is what they need as military to fight this war.
        And everyone is trying to mitigate that number while achieving some kind of goal.

        Who can hold out the longest?
        UA with a majority of global support?
        OR RF with their gas station and a bleak future gaining bleaker every day?

        vova knows he has no justifiable reason to use any nukes out his country in a war he is not fighting but he really is.
        It is not like UA is invading him and he is trying to stop them.
        His forces are inside Ukraine fighting.
        He also knows he has very few ways out of the mess he created for himself.
        I do not think Russian militias could survive the winter, personally.
        There is also the element of half or more of the people of Donbas want the Moscow crime units and militias gone.
        They will fight, but only when the moment is worth fighting.
        But I do not think we will get to winter without some decision coming out of the Kremlin of what it is going to do.

        Go into isolation mode and back out.
        Go on the offensive.
        Or give up a martyr, vova, UNSC seat, Crimea, Donbas, UA political prisoners, AND many of the terrorist and the crew that shot down MH17 – and back out trying to reestablish good or best as they can be relations.

        I do not think they would give up nukes because it is too important to defense or blackmail to them.
        But to be honest, I would trade all my list for all the nukes in the hands of the Kremlin.
        They cannot sustain this war, and it is a losing battle and becoming very costly for them both on the home front and with relations with neighbors.

        And your right, the EU should step up to the plate in my opinion begin taking Greek collateral and giving it to Ukraine.
        Ukraine would be more appreciative and work hard to give back.
        Greece has had its opportunities to reform, it is time for EU to take a stand there.
        That would make a difference.
        Collecting yanukothief’s billions and other Russian black market money also.
        HOWEVER, as Ukraine is fighting the corruption battle, that money should be given out with a lot of supervision.

        Fingers tired, and new comments later.
        I free think to much and write off the top of my head.
        I am sure the governments are dwelling on these ideas and more.
        UA has some very intelligent people.
        Will Ukraine survive 2 years, no and neither would Russia.

        IF MH17 is their fault, and they refuse to give up anything criminally or civilly, that means cut off from SWIFT and more sanctions and the isolation North Korea and Iran feels or felt.
        And it’s own doom from within.
        More and more confiscated Russian illicit funds would go to prop up countries Moscow was bleeding to fuel the empire such as Ukraine.
        And that is where I leave it for today.

  • miguel

    Keep talking about it George, and it will continually get squashed out.
    That is the important thing, for those in government to be held accountable for the laws they set up, the businesses they promote.
    UA has a lifetime of Moscow taught corruption to throw off, it is not done overnight.
    It will be a long continuous battle.
    I think you in UA need to make sure the battle is both against the financial crimes as well as the ‘gangster’ type crimes involved with it.
    If you eliminate the funding for the gangsters they usually go away.
    And once they ‘financial advisers’ see they are being challenged and thrown in jail, they go to find an easier place to work.
    USA has been weak on the big financiers, but tough on the crime bosses and their underlings.
    It seems to work, but those big wigs need to know they are persona non grata as well.
    The hard think is with 405 million people, UA needs investments and cash flow flowing in.
    And like I said before, those underlings also need to have jobs as their positions with government are exposed for demanding bribes.
    What do you do with them? fire them? heavy fine and send them back to work in the position they were in with heavy supervision? put them in jail for 2 months then allow them back to work?
    What is the right method is one Ukrainians have to decide.
    A judge to me is the ultimate betrayal of justice when he asks for bribes.
    There are a lot of law students around the world, fill the old judge’s chair with new blood.
    Ukraine is making leaps and bounds to combat corruption in my mind, however they have a long road to travel.
    Moscow influence and corruption is all over UA, they are organized crime.
    For every ten dollars a judge takes, Moscow gets 2.
    Stemming Moscow off in Donetsk is the most important thing, but battling corruption should take place in tandem in Western Ukraine for those that cannot fight at the front.
    I see the government attempting to do it.
    UA had a few corrupt Presidents after all, so how do you control corruption without sounding racist against all ethnic Russians?
    Russia and UA are intertwined in many ways,
    And Moscow and UA’s organized crime are tied together.
    IT is a battle to be fought, surely, and there are a lot of easy targets.
    It will be a continuous battle, those that are contrite and offer themselves up and say they will not do it anymore and turn over their network, should get a little leeway in prosecution.
    Maybe if you offered an Amnesty program in the beginning, the battle might be easier to be fought.
    In a way, Amnesty is like a bribe, but it may be a short term solution to a problem that effects every UA daily.
    A bribe for medicine or to see a DR., a bribe for judges, prosecutors, police, taxi, the list is long one.
    I cannot offer all the solutions, but I agree, it is a continuing fight and one that crosses borders.
    You can do it, but the important fight is Eastern UA.
    War is hell and Russia brought it to you, that is the main priority.
    The corruption is a battle that must be fought in tandem by those that cannot fight at the front.
    But do not expect miracles and they will happen.
    Look at all the top advisers getting replaced, that study to replace them takes time, and they are attempting to clean house at the middle and upper levels.
    Keep up the good work, remember it is a long fight.
    Although USA and Italia have squashed the Italian mafia, it is not eliminated.
    It is still there, but evolved.
    It is a continuing battle and must be fought by many nations together.